Author Topic: Paul's scratch built Banshee (Read 1588 times)

kevin king · « **on:** February 06, 2023, 11:09:29 PM »

Painting this plane for a friend. All dope and silkspan finish. After some sandpaper tests on small areas, i found 1500 grit was the best choice to wet sand flat and not leave a barrage of scratches in the clear.

944_Jim · « **Reply #1 on:** February 07, 2023, 02:31:00 PM »

Hubba, hubba, hubba! It looks just sprayed and wet (no audio on device).

Howard Rush · « **Reply #2 on:** February 07, 2023, 04:01:54 PM »

Wow. That’s really nice.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #3 on:** February 07, 2023, 04:57:52 PM »

That looks great. Now when can I expect you to come buff mine?

Bill Hummel · « **Reply #4 on:** February 07, 2023, 05:36:49 PM »

Awesome !!!

wwwarbird · « **Reply #5 on:** February 07, 2023, 07:33:17 PM »

The World's Nicest Banshee.

Please add some pics once it's fully assembled.

kevin king · « **Reply #6 on:** February 09, 2023, 06:39:16 PM »

No Sig = No Lite Coat. This is not good.

wwwarbird · « **Reply #7 on:** February 09, 2023, 07:32:54 PM »

Quote from: kevin king on February 09, 2023, 06:39:16 PM

No Sig = No Lite Coat. This is not good.

Huh?

kevin king · « **Reply #8 on:** February 10, 2023, 12:41:34 AM »

Quote from: wwwarbird on February 09, 2023, 07:32:54 PM

Huh?

Just saying, with sig moving or closing there will be no more Lite Coat, which i have become very fond of for the last 34 plus years.

doug coursey · « **Reply #9 on:** February 10, 2023, 02:49:51 PM »

Quote from: kevin king on February 10, 2023, 12:41:34 AM

Just saying, with sig moving or closing there will be no more Lite Coat, which i have become very fond of for the last 34 plus years.

BRODAK CLEAR IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS LITE COAT....I USED IT ON SILK AND IT WOULDNT TIGHTEN UP UNTILL I USED SOME SIG SUPER COAT

https://www.aircraftspruce.com/neworderform.php THEY HAVE BOTH TUTENING AND NON TAUTENING
I BELIEVE SIG AND BRODAK IS FROM RANDOLPH.......I PUT THE SIG OVER BRODAK WITH NO PROBLEM

kevin king · « **Reply #10 on:** February 10, 2023, 09:02:00 PM »

Honestly because the dope is made by the same company does not mean it is the same formulation. I have never seen a can of Sig Lite Coat that is brown in color. Randolph is for full size aircraft. Sig, and Brodak is for model airplanes. I suspect Both brodak and Sig have double the colored pigment that Randolph has, based on my experience of the 3. Next time i have a quart of all three i will weigh them.

wwwarbird · « **Reply #11 on:** February 10, 2023, 09:16:10 PM »

Quote from: kevin king on February 10, 2023, 09:02:00 PM

I suspect Both brodak and Sig have double the colored pigment that Randolph has, based on my experience of the 3.

i'm not so sure about that, alongside Brodak I've been using actual Randolph labeled stuff quite a bit and coverage seems excellent.

doug coursey · « **Reply #12 on:** February 11, 2023, 10:57:19 AM »

Quote from: kevin king on February 10, 2023, 09:02:00 PM

Honestly because the dope is made by the same company does not mean it is the same formulation. I have never seen a can of Sig Lite Coat that is brown in color. Randolph is for full size aircraft. Sig, and Brodak is for model airplanes. I suspect Both brodak and Sig have double the colored pigment that Randolph has, based on my experience of the 3. Next time i have a quart of all three i will weigh them.

IN WINDY VIDEO ON BRODAK DOPE HE SAID BRODAK COLORS HAD MORE PIGMENT THAN RANDOLPH DOES SO YOU NEED LESS COATS...IM ONLY USING RANDOLPH CLEAR FOR ATTACHING SILK AND TIGHTENING IT UP AND THEN BRODAK FOR THE FINAL CLEAR COATS AND COLOR COATS

kevin king · « **Reply #13 on:** February 18, 2023, 03:55:18 AM »

I think we are the only group of people on earth that puts a mirror finish on tissue paper. Sanding and polishing over open bays? Gee Whiz.

kevin king · « **Reply #14 on:** February 18, 2023, 04:02:57 AM »

Quote from: doug coursey on February 11, 2023, 10:57:19 AM

IN WINDY VIDEO ON BRODAK DOPE HE SAID BRODAK COLORS HAD MORE PIGMENT THAN RANDOLPH DOES SO YOU NEED LESS COATS...IM ONLY USING RANDOLPH CLEAR FOR ATTACHING SILK AND TIGHTENING IT UP AND THEN BRODAK FOR THE FINAL CLEAR COATS AND COLOR COATS

Who knows. This is the first time i sprayed white, which happened to be Randolph without adding extra pigment. Im assuming the total thickness of paint on a full
size aircraft would be 5 or 6 times the thickness used on our models. So from that i would think we would need more pigment in our hobby dope.

kevin king · « **Reply #15 on:** February 24, 2023, 09:49:09 AM »

Quote from: wwwarbird on February 07, 2023, 07:33:17 PM

The World's Nicest Banshee.

Please add some pics once it's fully assembled.

kevin king · « **Reply #16 on:** February 24, 2023, 09:51:11 AM »

kevin king · « **Reply #17 on:** February 24, 2023, 09:51:45 AM »

kevin king · « **Reply #18 on:** February 24, 2023, 09:52:17 AM »

Dan McEntee · « **Reply #19 on:** February 24, 2023, 11:28:37 AM »

Quote from: kevin king on February 18, 2023, 04:02:57 AM

Who knows. This is the first time i sprayed white, which happened to be Randolph without adding extra pigment. Im assuming the total thickness of paint on a full
size aircraft would be 5 or 6 times the thickness used on our models. So from that i would think we would need more pigment in our hobby dope.

The trick to spraying white is to have a light color base under it, and to put it on evenly and have just enough to cover. By the time you add the trim like you have done with this Banshee, it takes you eye away from any perceived flaws and brings it all together. And then the clear tops it off. I have seen many white models that i thought had some shadows or uneven spots but when the trim and other decorations were added, I couldn't see them. It doesn't have to look like a refrigerator to start out with!!
Type at you later ,
Dan McEntee

kevin king · « **Reply #20 on:** February 24, 2023, 07:00:13 PM »

Thanks Dan. The surprising thing to me was after the all the white i sprayed on it, after drying it only picked up 1 oz. Not sure if youve seen Sparky's newest plane but you can see through the white paint when he holds it up to the light. Thanks for the tips.

wwwarbird · « **Reply #21 on:** February 24, 2023, 10:08:26 PM »

Thanks for the finished pics Kevin, super nice plane and should be a great flyer.

kevin king · « **Reply #22 on:** March 11, 2023, 09:56:52 PM »

Thanks for the kind comments Wayne. As for the Sig Lite Coat, even if everything else is equal, I have never had a can of Lite coat that had a brown tint in it, unlike Brodak and Randolf. Bill Byles also told me he had customers that wanted Sig Lite Coat used as a top coat on their full size aircraft. I found that a little but not much, surprising. I use all clear tinted dope on the under coats, and I like it. But never as a top coat. I dont think many fabric covered aircraft even bother with a clear topcoat. The color coats have more than enough Clear in them already.