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Title: New to me, anyone out there tried this?
Post by: Ty Marcucci on April 24, 2010, 12:09:31 PM
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Title: Re: New to me, anyone out there tried this?
Post by: wwwarbird on April 24, 2010, 05:18:09 PM
 New to me too Ty. What exactly is the "filler"?
Title: Re: New to me, anyone out there tried this?
Post by: wwwarbird on April 24, 2010, 10:46:31 PM
 Got it. But what was actually on the plane that you got from Tom? Clear and sterate, Brodak sanding sealer, or?
Title: Re: New to me, anyone out there tried this?
Post by: Greg L Bahrman on April 25, 2010, 01:09:10 AM
When you say "FILLER" if you really mean clear dope. Yes thats how I do it. I put 3 coats of clear down, light sand and then paper on top of the clear applied with thinned dope.  #^
Title: Re: New to me, anyone out there tried this?
Post by: wwwarbird on April 25, 2010, 08:17:02 PM
 Thanks Ty. Definitely something to consider next time around. y1
Title: Re: New to me, anyone out there tried this?
Post by: Gene O'Keefe on April 27, 2010, 07:48:57 AM
I'll try it too...am going back to dope...am tired of the monokote process.

  Geno
Title: Re: New to me, anyone out there tried this?
Post by: wwwarbird on April 27, 2010, 08:06:02 PM
 Way to go Gene, throw away the Monokote. ;D
Title: Re: New to me, anyone out there tried this?
Post by: Allan Perret on April 28, 2010, 06:55:54 AM
Not sure I understand how this saves time.  How many coats and sandings had Tom done when you got the plane from him.  When you add those to the coats and sandings you will do after the paper application, it all seems about the same..
Title: Re: New to me, anyone out there tried this?
Post by: Dwayne on May 16, 2010, 08:23:17 PM
I used to do this but added sent free talc powder to my dope.
Title: Re: New to me, anyone out there tried this?
Post by: Jim Pollock on May 17, 2010, 04:25:31 PM
Ty,

When my dad bought Hans Pearson's original Pegasus, it had been built and covered with the exact method you describe.  So, I guess that way of doing the finish isn't so new since that was July 1955.  The plane was built in 1954.
If you want to see a picture of a pegasus, look in West Coast Model News during the late 50's up to the mid 60's
The co-designer Bob Raffel won just about every WAM contest he entered.

Jim Pollock   H^^
Title: Re: New to me, anyone out there tried this?
Post by: Dwayne on May 17, 2010, 07:44:57 PM
Hi Dwayne.  The one big fault with talc, scented or not, is it is basically ROCK.  It comes from soap stone and it is heavy.  Corn starch and zinc strearate are virtually weightless by comparison.   Corn starch is cheap and zinc stearate is expensive, by comparison.  I went to a drug compounding store and purchased a 6 oz can of it and it will last me abut four years. That's how long the last can lasted.  One heaping teaspoon per 4 oz of thinned clear dope. This stuff expands in the dope and goes a long way. H^^

Hey Ty...Corn starch now that's a good idea I've also read and I'm going to try on my next build, just before final sanding brush the entire model with 50/50 thinned white glue then sand it off and this is supposed to give a good base for painting, have you heard of this?
Thanks
Dwayne
Title: Re: New to me, anyone out there tried this?
Post by: Dwayne on May 18, 2010, 06:05:39 AM
The corn starch mixture is what I read from an article by George Aldrich.  As to the 50/50 mixture of white glue/water, I believe that is for applying silkspan around the perimeter of the wing.  I don't think it is for filling the balsa.  I would hesitate in even trying it. FWIW D>K

Thanks for the input Ty but being the stubborn fool I am I'm going to give it a try but just on the flaps stabs and elev. the fuse will be done with .5 glass.
Thanks again
Dwayne