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Re: Good article on Dope
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2019, 01:29:39 AM »
What caught my eye was how fast the covering will deteriorate with out a silver base coat on top, blocking the Ultra violet light.

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Re: Good article on Dope
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2019, 01:48:33 PM »
Exactly Ty! 😁. But seriously it was more like, how much faster the ultra violate light destroy our silkspan covered models without the silver blocking coat?

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Re: Good article on Dope
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2019, 07:18:33 PM »
Exactly Ty! 😁. But seriously it was more like, how much faster the ultra violate light destroy our silkspan covered models without the silver blocking coat?

    I'm sure it has an effect of some kind. Most models don't last long enough for it to show. The guys that finish really well know to keep them covered when not flying. Bill Byles had posted in some detail about this before. Some of those classic full scale airplanes would look really neat in a silver final finish, and so would a lot of classic stunt models.
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Re: Good article on Dope
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2019, 05:43:20 PM »
I didn't read every work of every article but this part glared at me. 

"Nitrate dope must be used on polyester fabric as the initial coat. Butyrate dope will not adhere to polyester fabric, only nitrate. Therefore, the first few coats of chemicals must be nitrate dope. Butyrate dope is then used to build up over the nitrate dopes that are in place."

Polyspan is polyester and yes you can butyrate from bare wood up though finish but the truth is that nitrate does in fact work better for sticking the stuff down.  I honestly can't understand why people have problems with butyrate over nitrate.  It works, every time.  The Polyspan sticks better and the weave fills faster.  AND Nitrate is less expensive, notice I didn't say "cheaper" because non of it is cheap. 

We are fortunate to have a local supplier of Randolph products.  I bought a gallon of nitrate non-tautening quite a few years ago and am still working on it.  I use their butyrate thinner in it and also cheap thinner from Lowes.  The only problem I've had with cheap thinner is blushing, and only then if applied to heavily.  Light coats in warm, not humid air helps a lot.

Mike


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