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Title: ..dopes...
Post by: Bootlegger on October 23, 2011, 05:08:49 AM
   Fellow's I am thinking about trying some Certified dopes from Aircraft Spruce.
 Does any one have experience with this dope, and how do you like it?
  Thanks a lot...
Title: Re: ..dopes...
Post by: larry borden on October 23, 2011, 08:45:02 AM
All I use now is Randolph dope from an aircraft supply co. in Fort Worth. I do use Brodak's crystal clear for the final clear coats. I also use Dupont 3608S for thinner and it works for nitrate and butyrate.
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Post by: Jim Thomerson on October 25, 2011, 11:23:29 AM
Certified works fine for me.
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Post by: Tim Wescott on October 25, 2011, 11:37:50 AM
I checked recently, and Wicks has Randolph dope for significantly less (50-60% the price) as Aircraft Spruce.  You might see if they have Certified as well (or if their prices have gone up).
Title: Re: ..dopes...
Post by: billbyles on October 26, 2011, 10:58:29 AM
   Fellows I am thinking about trying some Certified dopes from Aircraft Spruce.
 Does any one have experience with this dope, and how do you like it?
  Thanks a lot...

Certified is a good product but they have a limited choice of colors.  Also, their prices used to be lower than Randolph's but are now quite a bit higher. 

I now use Randolph clear for buildup from bare balsa through ready for color, and usually Randolph colored butyrate because they offer a wide selection of colors.  For the final clear topcoats over the colors I use Sig Light-Coat butyrate because it is more fuel-resistant than any other brand I have used.
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Post by: Peter Nevai on October 27, 2011, 12:55:20 PM
Certified works fine for me.

Welcome to the ancient order of Certified Dopes (AOOCD) Your membership materials will be sent to you by mail along with your contribution envelope.

Thank You for your support.

Regards

Head Certified Dope.
Title: Re: ..dopes...
Post by: Bootlegger on October 27, 2011, 01:36:15 PM
   y1   Bill Byles, I sent ya' a P/M...Gil #^
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Post by: Avaiojet on October 28, 2011, 06:49:57 AM
Anyone ever use or try automotive paint and finishing products?

CB
Title: Re: ..dopes...
Post by: billbyles on October 28, 2011, 09:48:36 AM
   y1   Bill Byles, I sent ya' a P/M...Gil #^

Got it, Gil; sent you a P/M & an email.
Title: Re: ..dopes...
Post by: Bill Little on October 30, 2011, 04:11:12 AM
Anyone ever use or try automotive paint and finishing products?

CB

Hi CB,

I have used acrylic lacquer a LOT ( ton of builders used that when t was more readily available), along with the newer basecoat/clearcoat systems.  Now, I use a lot of Duplicolor acrylic lacquers in the touch up spray can for colors.  It has never caused "me" a compatibility problem with dope.

The automotive urethane 2 part clear is a favorite clear top coat for many, many builders.  Just go light with it as it can get HEAVY real quick,  It is, however pretty fuel proof when cured and VERY shiny.

Big Bear
Title: Re: ..dopes...
Post by: Bootlegger on October 31, 2011, 05:28:58 AM
  Thanks a lot fellow's, I 'ppreciate all the info... ~>
Title: Re: ..dopes...
Post by: adam collver on November 05, 2011, 03:02:18 PM
does laquer thinner work better to clean brushes than just regular paint thinner becuase after my brushes dry they are harder than they should be and coloured a whitish colour after they dry srry for being off topic.
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Post by: Jim Kraft on November 05, 2011, 03:23:41 PM
Yes. Cheap lacquer thinner will work for cleaning brushes.
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Post by: adam collver on November 05, 2011, 04:46:48 PM
thanks
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Post by: larry borden on November 05, 2011, 05:24:35 PM
I use acetone for cleaning brushes and spray guns.  It's cheaper than dope thinner and works great.
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Post by: Jim Thomerson on November 06, 2011, 07:22:47 AM
I sprayed some Aerogloss clear and tried to clean the gun with cheap lacquer thinner.  I got grey jello as a result and had to switch to Aerogloss thinner (all I had at hand) to clean it up. HB~>
Title: Re: ..dopes...
Post by: billbyles on November 06, 2011, 01:57:48 PM
I sprayed some Aerogloss clear and tried to clean the gun with cheap lacquer thinner.  I got grey jello as a result and had to switch to Aerogloss thinner (all I had at hand) to clean it up. HB~>

I'm not familiar with the current formulation of Aerogloss, however the problem you described above sounds much like you may have gotten hold of some of the new low VOC lacquer thinner.  DuPont labels it V3608S whereas the previous version that would work with dope was 3608S; I don't know what PPG or other brands label theirs.  Using the V3608S will cause dope to jell & turn a grayish color, & you are correct...it won't even work to clean brushes.