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Title: Brodak Crystal Clear Dope
Post by: Bryan Higgins on April 30, 2010, 11:04:20 AM
Hello Pilots

I Know that alot of guy's and girls use Sig's Lite-Coat dope to finish there planes for a fuel proof upto 15% nitro
but where does Brodaks Crystal Clear Dope stand at ???

Is it fuel proof ?   

And how much nitro will it take ?

Thanks Bryan n~
Title: Re: Brodak Crystal Clear Dope
Post by: dennis lipsett on April 30, 2010, 01:06:45 PM
It stands at about $30.00 a quart and if it is like most Brodak dope it doesn't tolerate much nitro. Some have said not more then 5% nitro. Frankly I prefer Glass Kote.
Dennis
Title: Re: Brodak Crystal Clear Dope
Post by: Bryan Higgins on May 03, 2010, 09:57:36 PM
I guess i'll use polyurethane clearcoat .  I wanted to use Brodak Dope products all the way
but i have to use 10 - 15% nitro here in Colorado to get good engine runs. 

Are flying field is at 6100ft  elevation.   D>K
Title: Re: Brodak Crystal Clear Dope
Post by: Randy Powell on May 04, 2010, 10:02:48 AM
I use Randolphs (nice because it's about $75 a gallon). Seems fairly fuel resistant up to 10% nitro. But I usually don't use it as topcoat. I go with catalyzed polyurethane. It's very resistant to fuel.
Title: Re: Brodak Crystal Clear Dope
Post by: Larry Renger on May 05, 2010, 10:58:59 PM
Was Glass Kote a mis-print of Klass Kote, the epoxy, or a whole 'nother product?
Title: Re: Brodak Crystal Clear Dope
Post by: Bryan Higgins on May 07, 2010, 12:51:39 AM
Hi Larry
I will order some epoxy on my next build i promise.  My friend Chris uses it and his stunt planes
look great.
Title: Re: Brodak Crystal Clear Dope
Post by: dennis lipsett on May 15, 2010, 04:25:48 PM
Was Glass Kote a mis-print of Klass Kote, the epoxy, or a whole 'nother product?

Larry, Yes it was, ny bad.
Dennis
Title: Re: Brodak Crystal Clear Dope
Post by: TONY_KUBES on November 06, 2010, 02:54:45 PM
Hi Randy,
 You mentioned that you use Randolph clear, I've been to the Randolph website and they offer several different clear dopes... nitrate, butrate, with  tautening and non-tautening versions of each.
Which clear is the one you've been using?
               Thanks,  Tonyk
Title: Re: Brodak Crystal Clear Dope
Post by: larry borden on November 06, 2010, 03:51:36 PM
I use Randolph Nitrate, tautening for undercoating balsa surfaces and for applying silk, then switch to non-tautning butyrate for final clear coats. I then use Brodak Crystal clear for final two coats after color.
Title: Re: Brodak Crystal Clear Dope
Post by: john e. holliday on November 07, 2010, 07:53:32 AM
That is complicating things to this old man.  I use butyrate from the first coat.  After reading an article that Windy U. wrote,  I thin the dope considerably.  Then I slightly remember Robert S.  saying something about doing two coats of base clear before sanding.  So far have not had dope lifting at the fuselage to flying surfaces. H^^
Title: Re: Brodak Crystal Clear Dope
Post by: larry borden on November 07, 2010, 08:35:54 AM
My bad, I meant tautening butyrate for the final clear coats before color. I found out that the butyrate colors from Randolph are all non-tautening. John, didn't mean to confuse anyone, the Randolph stuff is cheaper than the LHS dope, so thats the reason I've been using it. Been back at this less than 2 years and have learned so much fron this forum and others. See, an old dog can learn new tricks! Even learned how to use a spray gun.
Title: Re: Brodak Crystal Clear Dope
Post by: Alan Resinger on November 08, 2010, 07:49:04 AM
For Randolph Clear you want A-1690.  That is their untinted, non-tautening butyrate.  It does not have the slight yellow tint that standard Brodak Clear has.  I bought a gallon a few months ago at Spencer Aircraft in Washington and paid $43 for a gallon.  A lot better than $30 a quart for Brodak Clear Coat.  Most Randolph colors run about $22 to $25 per quart which is the smallest size you can get.