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Online Brian Hampton

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Re: Your favorite "looking" engine?
« Reply #100 on: July 14, 2017, 07:42:39 PM »
OK, here's another vote for the Dooling 29 :). I'd always lusted for one ever since I saw one in a local hobby shop window in about '57. Long story short, a 29 along with its Hende baby brother came up on ebay but I figured there was no way I could beat what I guessed they might go for. I told my daughter about it and she told me to bid as high as I liked and she'd go halves with me as a Father's Day present!

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Re: Your favorite "looking" engine?
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Re: Your favorite "looking" engine?
« Reply #102 on: July 14, 2017, 08:49:49 PM »




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Re: Your favorite "looking" engine?
« Reply #103 on: July 14, 2017, 09:35:57 PM »

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Re: Your favorite "looking" engine?
« Reply #104 on: July 15, 2017, 09:09:42 AM »
When did this turn into an automotive/motorcycle forum?

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Re: Your favorite "looking" engine?
« Reply #105 on: July 15, 2017, 10:26:29 AM »
There was the prototype, the .49.
Actually the 49s with the vertical plugs and  3 or more cooling fins were more factory experimentals or individual experiments.  Keith Storey worked with them a lot.  Usually they had a .59 stroke and a smaller bore.  The first production 49, SN #1 is in the AMA museum.  Note due to its shorter stroke it has 1 less fin than the production 59s.

There were 5 .59 prototypes; #1, 4, and 5 are in the AMA Museum.  #3 was stolen and sold on Ebay.  #2 is in a safe deposit box.

And here is a letter from Dick Lyons who worked with Duke, actually machining the first two 59 protos:

Fox .59 Long Shaft Prototype
                    By Dick Lyons

In 1944 I was transferred to Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio to work
in the Equipment Lab there. In my barracks I met another G.I.
by the name of Duke Fox who was assigned to the Aircraft Lab. We
soon became aware of our mutual interest in model aircraft and
became close friends. Duke confided that when the war was over
he was going back to California and go into the model engine
business, and in fact, had already designed the engine he
hoped to manufacture. He showed me the drawings he had made for
the Long shaft .59. It was designed primarily for U-Control
speed models, hence the long shaft to facilitate cowling the
engine with the timer and needle valve located at the rear of
the engine. Duke said he was planning to build some prototypes
and had a pattern shop in town making some wood patterns so he
could have some Aluminum sand castings made to proof the design
before going into the more expensive die castings molds needed
for production when he got out of the service. He was wondering
how he was going to machine up the parts, when I suggested that
I had access to a complete machine shop in my Lab.

We began to spend evenings and week ends in the machine shop
building the prototypes. Duke did most of the machining and I
scrounged for materials and did some of the bench work. We were
in need of some cast iron for the rings but couldn't locate any
stock. We finally noticed that the spigot on one of the oil
drums was cast iron so in true scrounger fashion this spigot was
requisitioned and the rings were fabricated from this material.

Two engines were completed and were stamped with serial numbers
1 and 2. The engines, after working out a few problems with the
timers, ran exceedingly well and Duke was extremely pleased with
his first design.

In the Spring of 1946 I was discharged and returned to Illinois
with prototype S/N 2. Duke was discharged several months later
and returned to So. California where he started his own company,
eventually moving the operation to Fort Smith, Arkansas. That
story has been best told by others. We kept in contact for many
years, and when he would come to Chicago for the Hobby industry
shows, we would get together. In later years, after moving to
California I would meet him at the Nats or the I.M.S. show in
Pasadena. I do not know what happened to S/N 1, but I do know
where S/N 2 has been for the last 48 years!!

Dick Lyons
Camarillo, CA


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Re: Your favorite "looking" engine?
« Reply #106 on: July 15, 2017, 06:52:11 PM »
      Another favorite of mine the Wahl  40th Anniversary Brown junior. It`s a limited edition but I don`t know how many were made.
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Re: Your favorite "looking" engine?
« Reply #107 on: July 17, 2017, 07:13:46 AM »
Jett 40 se

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Re: Your favorite "looking" engine?
« Reply #108 on: July 17, 2017, 01:09:51 PM »
Shuriken .049

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Re: Your favorite "looking" engine?
« Reply #109 on: July 18, 2017, 01:09:26 AM »
By sheer coincidence I've just uploaded an engine test on the .050 and .061 Shurikens which gives some idea of what these little monsters are capable of!
http://sceptreflight.com/Model%20Engine%20Tests/Shuriken%20050%20&%20061.html

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Re: Your favorite "looking" engine?
« Reply #110 on: July 18, 2017, 05:58:37 AM »
My favorite came in 3 sizes, the Slate .59, Arne Hende's .09, and Woody Bartelt's (aeroelectric) .059.

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Re: Your favorite "looking" engine?
« Reply #111 on: July 18, 2017, 02:57:10 PM »

            Some more faves the K&B Infants. From left to right  the K&B .049 Infant,The K&B .035 Infant,the K&B.020 Infant, The PAL K&B.020 Infant replica and a K&B .020 Infant.

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Re: Your favorite "looking" engine?
« Reply #112 on: July 18, 2017, 10:06:17 PM »
The K&B 0.020 Infant came with a metal prop!  Probably illegal now (should be).  It had to be bent back after every landing (free flight).

Those angry-looking Fox 59 longshafts look dangerous just sitting there!  Ready to Rumble!
89 years, but still going (sort of)
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Re: Your favorite "looking" engine?
« Reply #113 on: July 19, 2017, 05:23:46 AM »
The K&B 0.020 Infant came with a metal prop!  Probably illegal now (should be).  It had to be bent back after every landing (free flight).

Those angry-looking Fox 59 longshafts look dangerous just sitting there!  Ready to Rumble!
That 59 does indeed rumble.  It is one of my loudest engines.  Several years ago I ran it at a MECA convention.  I also was running a GHQ.   The GHQ used 2:1 gas with 70 wt oil.  I didn't want to  mix up special fuel for the 59, so I just used the 2:1 and the same 13x5 wide blade Masterms Airscrew prop.  The GHQ ran around 5000 rpm on this combo.  The 59 ran 9700 rpm.  Lots of guys jumped back!  That very engine is the 11th one made.

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Re: Your favorite "looking" engine?
« Reply #114 on: July 19, 2017, 09:30:41 AM »
I have always loved the 59's. I have two glow, one lapped and one later ringed one. They run really well. I have flown my 68" 850 square Taurus with both of them, and they do just great. I also have a Viking with one in it. A super combo. They are unique in that they look like a model engine is supposed look according to me. LOL. A piece of art that works.
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Re: Your favorite "looking" engine?
« Reply #115 on: July 19, 2017, 11:12:43 AM »
The K&B 0.020 Infant came with a metal prop!  Probably illegal now (should be).  It had to be bent back after every landing (free flight).

              Yes they don`t look safe,I have them but I prefer wood or plastic props. I the instructions for the K&B.020 there are instructions and a small drawing on how to carve a 3.5 pitch prop.

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Re: Your favorite "looking" engine?
« Reply #116 on: July 19, 2017, 12:54:08 PM »
Runner up longnoses, a 1969 HP 61 and a BVM 91 ducted Fan built by Henry Nelson

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Re: Your favorite "looking" engine?
« Reply #117 on: July 21, 2017, 07:43:24 PM »
          I had forgotten my all time Favorite looking engine which is the OS .40 FP/S and .35FP/S . I had a lot of fun with this engines flying stunt and doing mods on The .40FP  for more power and speed.

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Re: Your favorite "looking" engine?
« Reply #118 on: July 21, 2017, 08:51:19 PM »
As of yesterday I now have a new favourite looking engine, sorry little Dooling 29 :).

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Re: Your favorite "looking" engine?
« Reply #119 on: July 22, 2017, 11:30:00 AM »
As of yesterday I now have a new favourite looking engine, sorry little Dooling 29 :).

Excelent,beautiful Yellow Jacket mate.
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Re: Your favorite "looking" engine?
« Reply #120 on: July 22, 2017, 06:22:32 PM »
As of yesterday I now have a new favourite looking engine, sorry little Dooling 29 :).

Hi, Brian.
Have you run your Yellow Jacket yet?
Mine is new, never run. I plan to break it in soon.
75% Gasoline/ 20% Castor oil/ 4% Synthetic/1% Nitrobenzine.

Bob Z.

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Re: Your favorite "looking" engine?
« Reply #121 on: July 23, 2017, 09:44:39 PM »
Hi Robert.
Mine is brand new too but it's a Bartelt replica (Serial #B68) which is about the nearest I'll ever get to affording an original :). However there was a copy of the Dooling instruction sheet included in the box so I've scanned them in case you haven't seen them before. One thing I know is that cleanliness of fuel and intake air is essential for the needle roller bearing in the conrod. Chances are I may never run mine but who knows?


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