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Title: Your advice on UltraCote
Post by: Ward Van Duzer on April 06, 2007, 02:30:09 PM
Well, not being one who does much plastic covering these days I saw much positive advice on Hanger 9's Ultracote. Son-of-a-gun! It really works! Not a professional job on my little Stuka, But certainly much easier than $cote. And turned out nicer. This little job is for a club special event combining the OTS pattern, speed, and a spot landing. Turned out about 23 ounces (not outstanding, but reasonably light for a fox .35) which was the reason for the film finish.

But, thanks guys, no matter how old you get, or how long you're in this racket, there is always something to learn.

BTW, an interesting note, the backing on the ultracote read ORACOVER!

Tanks, Ward-O  b1
Title: Re: Your advice on UltraCote
Post by: dennis lipsett on April 07, 2007, 06:18:19 AM
That's because Ultrakote really is Oracover. One of the best covering materials made. Superior to $kote and made in Germany. Makes it possible for anyone to get a reasonably good covering.
dennis
Title: Re: Your advice on UltraCote
Post by: SteveMoon on April 07, 2007, 09:56:03 AM
I've used Ultracote several times, and have always found it to be
a superior product to Monokote. My buddy John Grigsby, (big time
RC flier) swears by Ultracote, and turned me and Doug onto it
about 10 years ago.

Steve
Title: Re: Your advice on UltraCote
Post by: Ward Van Duzer on April 07, 2007, 01:25:15 PM
So here's what it looks like!

The cockeyed engine is an experiment to see if we can beat the "burp" without the pop stick! n~

Ward
Title: Re: Your advice on UltraCote
Post by: Paul Taylor on April 07, 2007, 08:46:41 PM
Ward,
Nice Stuka.
My next one will be ultrakote.
Is that a kit?

Paul H^^
Title: Re: Your advice on UltraCote
Post by: Harleyman on April 07, 2007, 08:54:18 PM
It looks like it might be John Lowry's new Stuka kit.
I might be ordering one of those on the future, based on how nice Joes Wingmaster worked out.
All lazer cut and just falls together.  For around $40.00-$45.00, you can't beat it.
Title: Re: Your advice on UltraCote
Post by: Leester on April 07, 2007, 09:04:42 PM
I got one from John L. can't beat it and like you said the price is VERY right.
Title: Re: Your advice on UltraCote
Post by: bob branch on April 08, 2007, 10:18:54 AM
The cost of finishing a model with ultracote is hugely cheaper than a dope finish. You could easily do half a dozen planes or more for the cost of a 3 color dope finish. That was the biggest shock when I returned to stunt.

Bob Branch
Title: Re: Your advice on UltraCote
Post by: Ward Van Duzer on April 08, 2007, 10:28:35 AM
Yup! Lowrey's Stuka. Quick and easy. But needed some upgrades for me. Push rod useless. 3 inch BC. 4 piece hard balsa fuselage. Ribs and TE could have been thinner, lighter stock. Motor mounts too short. But overall, a pretty good deal for a "quickee".

If you haven't figgered it out, I'm a bit fussy!  :-*
Title: Re: Your advice on UltraCote
Post by: Leester on April 08, 2007, 12:44:16 PM
Ward: just for info when I build mine, besides the push rod did you change 3" B/C to a 4" ? I'm guessing longer motor mounts but did you use the fusalage as supplied ? or cut a new one ? I plan on using the Ultrkote also. I used it on my Metaphor wing and was very pleased at the easy time I had putting it on.
Title: Re: Your advice on UltraCote
Post by: Steve Helmick on April 08, 2007, 04:33:03 PM
Oh, Ward...how did you accomplish the 45deg. engine mounting?  H^^ Steve
Title: Re: Your advice on UltraCote
Post by: Ward Van Duzer on April 12, 2007, 08:54:29 AM
Nope! Didn't use the motor mounts. Did use a SIG 4" BC. Cut a new 1/2" fuse and 1/2 " tripler. Built a front end with a round firewall glassed to the fuselage. Then bolted a Dave brown RC mount to the firewall. Could be wasted effort, but we'll just have to wait and see.  ???

First flights will be with a Fox with a blocked bypass.


Ward
Title: Re: Your advice on UltraCote
Post by: john e. holliday on April 12, 2007, 09:56:58 AM
I like it, especially the mounting of the Fox.  May have to get one of JL's kits too.  DOC Holliday
Title: Re: Your advice on UltraCote
Post by: Jerry Bohn on April 12, 2007, 01:07:00 PM
Who is John Lowery and how can he be contacted about his kit (kits)?
Ward, Ultracoate job looks great to me, fine job.
Title: Re: Your advice on UltraCote
Post by: Harleyman on April 12, 2007, 03:06:28 PM
John Lowry goes by the name Brother John over on the Stuka Stunt Forum
His website is:

http://www.control-line-models.com/index.htm
Title: Re: Your advice on UltraCote
Post by: Larry Price on April 12, 2007, 06:27:17 PM
Ward,
         I wondered how you did that motor mount also, but i took a closer look at the picture and I can see the radial mount. Very clever Sir.... With the slab fuselage extended as if you used standard profile mounting it hides what you did. Let us know how it works out. Nicely done.... H^^