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Online Howard Rush

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Re: Yatsenko Shark.
« Reply #50 on: August 03, 2018, 04:45:25 PM »
Brett should order some stickers from Aviojet to add a little flash to his fuse.

It's going to take more than that to get Brett back into the game.  You and I know the elephant in the room here: VGs.
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Re: Yatsenko Shark.
« Reply #51 on: August 03, 2018, 05:17:15 PM »
Randy I value your opinion. But it is just your opinion.
I NEVER said the shark is the best plane. 1992 Impact was awesome,best I have seen.
None of your models have ever won open stunt at the Nat’s. That does not detract from their greatness.

You can order the Shark in raw balsa if you so desire. This allows you to finish as you like
With the current BOM you can have the Yatsenko build the wings,flaps,stab,elevator fin,cheek cowl and scoop.
Purchase the fuse skins molded in fiberglass and construct the fuse install the takeapart hardware,bellcranck and you are BOM compliant

By having the fuse mold it is easy to build that model. BTW they will provide all fuse formers.

By having the Shark molds we can produce them in any finish that we like.

I will have the full Shark molds in my hand by September. I also have 15 years molding experience,that should be interesting.

At the worlds the best pipe set up was flown by a sweede pilot VMax 46 prepared by you. Really good. Sounded familiar. Second was C Ruid PA75.
Jose modesto

Hi Jose

Its  all an opinion, but mine   is  a  very informed opinion, I am not bothered by the  swat you took about one of my designs NOT winning  Open at the NATs,   That will come,   They have  won  such a large amount of National Championships  in the  U.S.  and many many other countries, plus multiple  WORLD Championship Medals.  Also its one of the  MOST kitbashed designs where people built the kits with another name put on them. You would be  HARD pressed  to find models with more  Medals and trophies World wide,  PLUs planes with my aero wing stab packages in them have ALSO won  all over the  world, there is  a  reason I have sold  over 4000 SV short and  full laser cut kits.  They were also one of the  very The  first laser cut kits available to stunt flyers

Now about the  balsa Shark, I would much prefer  to have a molded composite one, I looked VERY closely at the  wood shark you had a t  Muncie, I would  want no part of that one, it was  not up to the standard of the molded one, and  it looked weak  weak  weak, in construction, and  I would have doubts about it staying together, there just was  not  strength in what I saw
So  YES  I agree with you that  moulds  are the way to go,  and I would  want a  moulded one.
Also  Yes  I do know  about how  you could  make a  BOM legal  Shark, and  I am  happy that you will have  moulds soon,  I know you have a lot of time put into finding all about molding  stunt ships, and  I am sure you will do a  great job at it

I look forward to seeing  the product that you come out with

Regards
Randy

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Re: Yatsenko Shark.
« Reply #52 on: August 03, 2018, 05:19:20 PM »
Brett you are to sensitive.

  Really?  I said I wasn't particularly irritated by this, I though it was sort of funny, in a "new york humor" sort of way. You can't help yourself.

     I am perfectly willing to let the results speak for themselves, good or bad.

    Brett

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Re: Yatsenko Shark.
« Reply #53 on: August 03, 2018, 05:20:21 PM »
It's going to take more than that to get Brett back into the game.  You and I know the elephant in the room here: VGs.

OH !  I thought it was the special   " double "  chameleon,  translucent,  VGs that take on the color of the  plane and blend right in....  Next thing you know  we  will be getting  invisible  VGs     :-)

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Re: Yatsenko Shark.
« Reply #54 on: August 03, 2018, 05:23:00 PM »
It's going to take more than that to get Brett back into the game.  You and I know the elephant in the room here: VGs.

 As trolls go, pretty weak sauce. I was going to mention the VGs. I thought of something else he needs more help with, but I think it's in the category of "too soon", so I am taking it easy on him.

    Brett

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Re: Yatsenko Shark.
« Reply #55 on: August 03, 2018, 06:05:56 PM »
Randy. Your wing is my favorite for building PA models. Excellent.
A model made from my molds SV-22 competed at the just completed worlds 
The SV-22 is my favorite of your designs
It’s the closes to the patternmaster 51 wing on the market.
The pm 51 wing was developed in 1973. The SV — 22 wing is close.
No shot taken at your design.
I just don’t value any championship thst is not open PA (Nat’s ) or worlds. Any other win is great but not the best.
Making the super bowl is not the same as winning the super bowl.
I’m sure after David and Paul retire your design will win LOL with rung in cheek
With love and respect
Jose modesto

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Re: Yatsenko Shark.
« Reply #56 on: August 03, 2018, 07:33:34 PM »
Uhhhh, what's a VG?  (I hate it when someone cracks a joke and everyone is laughing but me and I'm not sure if maybe I should check to see if my fly is down....)   :o

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Re: Yatsenko Shark.
« Reply #57 on: August 03, 2018, 07:39:28 PM »
Uhhhh, what's a VG?  (I hate it when someone cracks a joke and everyone is laughing but me and I'm not sure if maybe I should check to see if my fly is down....)   :o

  It's the thing Derek doesn't use?

    Brett

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Re: Yatsenko Shark.
« Reply #58 on: August 03, 2018, 07:53:00 PM »
Jose  do you remember  what the Cuban team  used at this  years  Worlds?

Randy

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Re: Yatsenko Shark.
« Reply #59 on: August 03, 2018, 08:21:48 PM »
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Uhhhh, what's a VG?  (I hate it when someone cracks a joke and everyone is laughing but me and I'm not sure if maybe I should check to see if my fly is down....)   :o

  It's the thing Derek doesn't use?

    Brett

Howard: You started this: what's a VG?  Do we need to start a special fund so Derek can get one?

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Re: Yatsenko Shark.
« Reply #60 on: August 03, 2018, 08:24:05 PM »
Howard: You started this: what's a VG?  Do we need to start a special fund so Derek can get one?

  That's a good idea!   Just one, though.

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Re: Yatsenko Shark.
« Reply #61 on: August 03, 2018, 08:35:07 PM »
I guess  I should  not  spill  the  beans !!

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Re: Yatsenko Shark.
« Reply #62 on: August 04, 2018, 12:29:27 AM »
  It's the thing Derek doesn't use?

Au contraire.  He's knuckled under.
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Re: Yatsenko Shark.
« Reply #63 on: August 04, 2018, 12:32:16 AM »
Howard: You started this: what's a VG?  Do we need to start a special fund so Derek can get one?

Holy cow.  You must be some sorta stunt Rip Van Winkle.  Gimme your postal address.
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Re: Yatsenko Shark.
« Reply #64 on: August 04, 2018, 01:37:30 AM »
Uhhhh, what's a VG?  (I hate it when someone cracks a joke and everyone is laughing but me and I'm not sure if maybe I should check to see if my fly is down....)   :o

Well it sounds like Howard is ready to send you some.  He makes them by the bushel.

Anyway I'll break with tradition and release the "Big Secret".

The black thing'ees on the wing and stab of my the Whitely Shoestring in the picture below that I flew for several years are "Howard VG's".

Howard said He thought I put them on backwards and He's probably right but they worked very well...If I had put them on right they probably would have worked even better and I wouldn't have been able to live with it.  It would have probably been way too good for the likes of me!

Seriously...the airplane was a bit short on wing and long on weight and it was a big improvement!  Actually a very good flying airplane capable of 570+ flight scores! PA65 Pipe Power.

Randy Cuberly
Pretty good for an Old Duffer like me!

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Re: Yatsenko Shark.
« Reply #65 on: August 04, 2018, 04:25:24 AM »
As trolls go, pretty weak sauce. I was going to mention the VGs. I thought of something else he needs more help with, but I think it's in the category of "too soon", so I am taking it easy on him.

    Brett

You just don't understand how difficult it is to design airplanes that only fold in the middle of July.

Derek

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Re: Yatsenko Shark.
« Reply #66 on: August 04, 2018, 04:29:08 AM »
  It's the thing Derek doesn't use?

    Brett

Well, actually, the dreadnought does have VGs. Installed by David Fitzgerald as a matter of fact.

With Howard's new pricing, I can now afford to use more than 8 per plane.

Derek

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Re: Yatsenko Shark.
« Reply #67 on: August 04, 2018, 05:39:51 AM »
I need to talk to Howard, I can't find the gaybulators that I used on my Dreadnought.  I should try some on the Raper.
Steve

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Re: Yatsenko Shark.
« Reply #68 on: August 04, 2018, 06:22:19 AM »
Well, that was embarrassing.  I figured for sure that the V stood for Viagra.  I just couldn't figure out the G.

Randy: thanks for letting me in on the secret code initials!  I just gotta get me one of those Orphan Annie code rings....

So, are VGs sold by the dozen at my local hobby shop?  I wonder how they'd work on my Goldfish?


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Re: Yatsenko Shark.
« Reply #69 on: August 04, 2018, 09:30:31 AM »
You just don't understand how difficult it is to design airplanes that only fold in the middle of July.

    Yeah, who came up with that, anyway?  At least no one can say you weren't cornering hard enough.

     Seriously, this sort of thing used to be nearly unheard of, as soon as we got tuned-pipe engines, structural issues and failure became pretty common.

    Brett

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Re: Yatsenko Shark.
« Reply #70 on: August 04, 2018, 11:28:10 AM »
    Yeah, who came up with that, anyway?  At least no one can say you weren't cornering hard enough.

     Seriously, this sort of thing used to be nearly unheard of, as soon as we got tuned-pipe engines, structural issues and failure became pretty common.

    Brett

Well, this one was completely my fault. The red plane had the exact same issue as the green one you watched fold. The red plane was already assembled when the green one crashed, so I "tried" to go back and fix the problem. I see now that the only solution would have been to cut the wing out and start over.

Derek

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Re: Yatsenko Shark.
« Reply #71 on: August 04, 2018, 02:22:37 PM »
Well, that was embarrassing.  I figured for sure that the V stood for Viagra.  I just couldn't figure out the G.

Randy: thanks for letting me in on the secret code initials!  I just gotta get me one of those Orphan Annie code rings....

So, are VGs sold by the dozen at my local hobby shop?  I wonder how they'd work on my Goldfish?

I think they would look really NEAT on the Goldfish!  Whether they would help that thing (it is "Cute") or not is a question way above my "Pay Grade".  You'd probably only get an answer to that question in church!

No they can only be obtained as far as I know from the Guy with the Clown Suit and attitude, otherwise known as Howard!  He is pretty smart however and flys really good... sometimes.   He's also a very nice fellow...most of the time!  Not at all like me!   Give him your address and find out!

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