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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Shug Emery on August 05, 2014, 11:05:55 PM

Title: Wrist-Cam View...Hand Movements
Post by: Shug Emery on August 05, 2014, 11:05:55 PM
I wanted to see what my hand was doing with the handle so I strapped my Mobius camera to my wrist to see a pattern. I left out some laps and did an extra stunt or two for practice.
Was curious to see the movements on inverted flight....trying to keep the plane level in the wind.
Thankee for watching it.
Shug

http://youtu.be/ZhYalHHS_E0 (http://youtu.be/ZhYalHHS_E0)

Continuing Stunt Pattern Practice

http://youtu.be/zBB8M1Uk-vo (http://youtu.be/zBB8M1Uk-vo)
Title: Re: Wrist-Cam View...Hand Movements
Post by: john e. holliday on August 06, 2014, 08:22:15 AM
Had my grandson watch the video of the hand movements.  Thank for the video as it shows sometimes we make to drastic a movement of the wrist at times. 
Title: Re: Wrist-Cam View...Hand Movements
Post by: RknRusty on August 06, 2014, 09:23:20 AM
Continuing Stunt Pattern Practice

http://youtu.be/zBB8M1Uk-vo (http://youtu.be/zBB8M1Uk-vo)
Looks like you've got it pretty much figured out Shug. Nothing but handle time needed now.
Rusty
Title: Re: Wrist-Cam View...Hand Movements
Post by: Paul Taylor on August 06, 2014, 11:05:22 AM
Rock on Shug!!!

Bring in the clowns.  :##
Title: Re: Wrist-Cam View...Hand Movements
Post by: dirty dan on August 06, 2014, 12:05:20 PM
My second thought was that it would be interesting to see this done with either Jim Aaron or Pat Johnston wiggling the handle. Then I realized such would cause one and all to projectile vomit on their keyboard.

Dan
Title: Re: Wrist-Cam View...Hand Movements
Post by: Shug Emery on August 06, 2014, 07:55:57 PM
Rock on Shug!!!

Bring in the clowns.  :##
The Clowns are always ready.......

My second thought was that it would be interesting to see this done with either Jim Aaron or Pat Johnston wiggling the handle. Then I realized such would cause one and all to projectile vomit on their keyboard.

Dan
Not sure who those fellers are but a puke inducing handle mover has me curious 'n excited)))))
Title: Re: Wrist-Cam View...Hand Movements
Post by: Dane Martin on August 06, 2014, 11:16:12 PM
if we're talking about Pat Johnston from Boise, he's the man!! he sent me a set of plans and laser cut rib set I've been building. he's an amazing designer and all around good dude to talk to.

outstanding job with the vids shug. keep 'em coming
Title: Re: Wrist-Cam View...Hand Movements
Post by: Steve Helmick on August 06, 2014, 11:52:28 PM
I'd like to see Shug keep his handle vertical for both upright and inverted, and FOR SURE, keep the thumb off the top of the handle. The latter indicates that your plane is possibly not turning equally inside/outside or you have serious insecurities about turning the outside corners.

Interesting video! You owe me a new keyboard...  LL~ Steve
Title: Re: Wrist-Cam View...Hand Movements
Post by: Shug Emery on August 07, 2014, 06:58:48 AM
if we're talking about Pat Johnston from Boise, he's the man!! he sent me a set of plans and laser cut rib set I've been building. he's an amazing designer and all around good dude to talk to.

outstanding job with the vids shug. keep 'em coming
Thankee......good to know.

I'd like to see Shug keep his handle vertical for both upright and inverted, and FOR SURE, keep the thumb off the top of the handle. The latter indicates that your plane is possibly not turning equally inside/outside or you have serious insecurities about turning the outside corners.

Interesting video! You owe me a new keyboard...  LL~ Steve
Yessir....part of doing this video was about me seeing what my hand was doing. The thumb seems to go on and off. I'll see in time what happens there. Kinda like a golf club grip or a bat grip....reckon it varies for many. I would not think the thumb on top would be bad...seems to give a bit more oomph.
Time will tell.....
Title: Re: Wrist-Cam View...Hand Movements
Post by: dirty dan on September 05, 2014, 12:48:23 PM
if we're talking about Pat Johnston from Boise, he's the man!! he sent me a set of plans and laser cut rib set I've been building. he's an amazing designer and all around good dude to talk to.

outstanding job with the vids shug. keep 'em coming

Yes, we are talking about the same man. And as I know him a lot better than you do, please let me inform you that you don't know even half the reasons Pat is so highly regarded by myself and many others. That's simply a fact.

Still, while flying CL Stunt Pat is an arm-waver of the highest caliber. It's stunning to see, to the point where one wonders how in the heck his patterns look as good as they do, how he consistently avoids what surely looks to be a coming yard-sale right there in the circle.

Dan
 
Title: Re: Wrist-Cam View...Hand Movements
Post by: Avaiojet on September 05, 2014, 05:54:46 PM
I was told. As I said, I was told that some, probably just one, but maybe some, fliers keep their arm still in place and just use their wrist.

That is, they don't follow the aircraft with that fully extended arm.

I may try that, there could be benefits?

Anyone know anything about that technique?

Shug, outstanding.

Title: Re: Wrist-Cam View...Hand Movements
Post by: john e. holliday on September 06, 2014, 09:48:26 AM
Go watch videos of all of our national champions and others that compete.   Only one I have seen that barely moves his arm is Billy Werwage and I've watched him many times at VSC.   They follow the plane with the arm and use the wrist to set the controls.  Don't ever watch me unless you want a lesson on how not to fly stunt.   LL~ LL~
Title: Re: Wrist-Cam View...Hand Movements
Post by: RknRusty on September 07, 2014, 07:19:07 AM
Go watch videos of all of our national champions and others that compete.   Only one I have seen that barely moves his arm is Billy Werwage and I've watched him many times at VSC.   They follow the plane with the arm and use the wrist to set the controls.  Don't ever watch me unless you want a lesson on how not to fly stunt.   LL~ LL~
Doc, I bet you're exaggerating your stunt ineptitude.
Title: Re: Wrist-Cam View...Hand Movements
Post by: Mark Scarborough on September 07, 2014, 03:09:47 PM
Yes, we are talking about the same man. And as I know him a lot better than you do, please let me inform you that you don't know even half the reasons Pat is so highly regarded by myself and many others. That's simply a fact.

Still, while flying CL Stunt Pat is an arm-waver of the highest caliber. It's stunning to see, to the point where one wonders how in the heck his patterns look as good as they do, how he consistently avoids what surely looks to be a coming yard-sale right there in the circle.

Dan
 

to true,, to true,, I fly with Pat a fair amount,, I found myself flying a bit like him for awhile,, I settled down,, added some throw to my handle spacing and now am much more composed in the circle center,,

Pat is also one of the most genuine nice guys around,, and a dynamo as well,