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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Jared Hays on September 09, 2014, 05:06:03 PM

Title: Wow have you guys seen this yet?!?!
Post by: Jared Hays on September 09, 2014, 05:06:03 PM
enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUvbt1lsozFwrKgfTP-cUppw&v=5EWuLP8Y3SQ
Title: Re: Wow have you guys seen this yet?!?!
Post by: RC Storick on September 09, 2014, 06:05:17 PM
I want one
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Post by: Sean McEntee on September 09, 2014, 06:13:11 PM
The CL extra doesn't track well inverted

The last update included a neat Gee Bee model. The app is a good time killer

Title: Re: Wow have you guys seen this yet?!?!
Post by: Elwyn Aud on September 09, 2014, 06:35:55 PM
Doing a wingover looks like it could be a little strange.
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Post by: Dennis Moritz on September 09, 2014, 06:48:24 PM
I feel dizzy.
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Post by: Jim Hoffman on September 09, 2014, 07:12:00 PM
Very cool.  Could be a fantastic training tool for someone learning to fly stunt.  First thing that comes to mind is that it could save some crashes as one first feels those first very unnatural moments inverted. 

Jim Hoffman
Title: Re: Wow have you guys seen this yet?!?!
Post by: Motorman on September 09, 2014, 07:27:25 PM
That's really cool but it doesn't completely simulate what happens when you're flying. I'll stick to my real world toys.
Title: Re: Wow have you guys seen this yet?!?!
Post by: Randy Cuberly on September 09, 2014, 07:35:07 PM
OK are they for sale yet?  Or maybe more to the piont is are they going to be for sale?

Randy Cuberly
PS:
I guess I sound like one of the kids that walks up at the flying field and says How much does that cost?
Title: Re: Wow have you guys seen this yet?!?!
Post by: CircuitFlyer on September 09, 2014, 07:59:51 PM
Juan demo'd his setup at our club meeting last winter.  It is kinda cool.  We all had a go at it.  I use Picasim on a 96" screen with a flight sim joystick controller.  My wife gets dizzy watching me fly.

I don't think he has any plans to mass produce them.  He tried to show some construction details in the video.  He just used one of his kids old game controllers, ripped it open and hooked up one of the pots to a bellcrank.

Paul
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Post by: Steve Riebe on September 09, 2014, 08:15:35 PM
This could really help those winter time withdrawals
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Post by: Shug Emery on September 09, 2014, 10:01:40 PM
That is one game I would play))))
A right goodie for sure.
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Post by: Douglas Ames on September 09, 2014, 10:11:47 PM
You mean I can fly Control Line in my underwear, while eating Cheetos? Oh, I want one...  :##
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Post by: Igor Burger on September 10, 2014, 01:49:56 AM
That's really cool but it doesn't completely simulate what happens when you're flying. I'll stick to my real world toys.

The worst thing what beginners do wrong is not to follow model by handle - what makes unwanted input to controls, I affraid this teach exactly that, so may be real flight will then take even longer than without that :- ))))
Title: Re: Wow have you guys seen this yet?!?!
Post by: James_Mynes on September 10, 2014, 04:11:31 AM
As I said on SSW:

Smell that? You smell that?
What?
Nitro, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that.
I love the smell of nitro in the morning. You can't get that on a simulator. The smell, you know that nitro smell, the whole field smells like... victory.

P.S. I don't care that it's actually the castor oil you smell.
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Post by: James C. Johnson on September 10, 2014, 08:50:03 AM
What handle is that?
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Post by: Randy Ryan on September 10, 2014, 09:27:17 AM
The worst thing what beginners do wrong is not to follow model by handle - what makes unwanted input to controls, I affraid this teach exactly that, so may be real flight will then take even longer than without that :- ))))


Yes, maybe a fun toy but unlike RC sims, this doesn't take into account all the body movements needed to fly CL stunt. It was mentioned the wingover could be weird, but really all the maneuvers are unrealistic because there is no actual movement other than the hand. I really don't see any practical value in this except perhaps primary elevator training, what's up what's down. We've been teaching that for years without simulation. I'm not sold.
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Post by: John Stiles on September 10, 2014, 11:02:38 AM
If I found one of those in a hobby shop....it would be at the top of my purchase list!  y1
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Post by: goozgog on September 10, 2014, 01:56:26 PM
  I've flown Juan's simulator prototype and I think
it would be an excellent tool for any new flyer to
learn inverted and most of the low maneuvers.
  My only serious criticism is that overheads
were hard to follow.
  I found myself trying to maintain line tension
by pulling on the handle which is pointless but
it really did feel like flying a C/L plane.
It can't replace real life flying but it would sure help!