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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Bill Hummel on February 03, 2015, 09:31:57 AM

Title: World Champs stunter?
Post by: Bill Hummel on February 03, 2015, 09:31:57 AM

Could someone tell me what stunter Rich Kornmeier from Germany was flying at the recent World Champs?  Nice looking ship, "old ST 60" technology!
Thanks for any help with this.

Title: Re: World Champs stunter?
Post by: Bill Little on February 03, 2015, 10:26:29 AM

Hi Bill,

I would like to know that, too.

Bill

Title: Re: World Champs stunter?
Post by: Lauri Malila on February 03, 2015, 11:30:09 AM

Isn't it Igor's design, Max? Seems to be very similar to Max Bee. L

Title: Re: World Champs stunter?
Post by: Bill Little on February 03, 2015, 12:49:58 PM

Quote from: Lauri Malila on February 03, 2015, 11:30:09 AM

Isn't it Igor's design, Max? Seems to be very similar to Max Bee. L

Hi Lauri,

That does seem to come to mind, but i thought he was also using Igor's electric set up.  I guess Richie just hasn't become comfortable with it. (??)

Bill

Title: Re: World Champs stunter?
Post by: Igor Burger on February 03, 2015, 01:30:06 PM

I am not sure which model it is, probably we are speaking abou yellow top Marshall? ... I think so, he has also its twin red top Marshall which he flew in past years. I designed those models for his hand some 10 or 12 years ago when I met his daddy, and it is basically MAX (the first one with 45 deg tilted engine http://www.netax.sk/hexoft/stunt/images/mRim00014.jpg ) modified for inverted ST 60 motor (little modified fatter fuselage). During time he had also modiffication with wing tip with shorter chord redesigned by Alex Schrek for his Extra like model which also uses aerodynamics from Max but different fuselage, but I think it was not best modiffication for such model.

Max itself had several versions:

Max ...  orriginal version with Os Max .46 LA with pipe (that why it got name Max)
Max II ... identical to Max, but logartithmic unit on flaps
Max 60 ... clone of Max for Richard and then used by several other 4-2-4 flyers
Max Bee ... my so far the last design cloned from Max II with new improved fuselage

So ... I think we are speaking about older Max 60 called Marschal with TL ST60 ... Richard told us that he decided to fly TL ST60, just for memory of Tom. If I can judge, Richard can fly well both electric and ST60 versions, I do not think that powertrain can have too much influence to flyer ability especially in relatively good conditions in Poland ... IF WORKS WELL ... and all Richards ST60 which I saw in his models worked well. As far as I know he has many of them and he was simply able to select and master those which served well. May be difficuld wind and turbullence will change situation but it was not the case, 3 years ago he decided to use my electric because he saw that it has good reliability especially in hard wind and we know fields here around notoric for strong constant wind :- ))) ... close to Atlantic or high in Alps.

Title: Re: World Champs stunter?
Post by: Russell Bond on February 03, 2015, 02:57:12 PM

I spoke to Rickie at the World's and he said he liked the electric, but hasn't had enough time on it.

Also, he wanted to fly the ST 60 at Poland as he dedicated the flights to Tom Lay.

He had written on his wing; "Dedicated to my friend Tom Lay."

Title: Re: World Champs stunter?
Post by: Howard Rush on February 03, 2015, 03:53:41 PM

Here's the airplane:

Title: Re: World Champs stunter?
Post by: Igor Burger on February 04, 2015, 01:36:28 AM

Yes that is, and it has also red top twin :- ))

https://flic.kr/p/8o2c2T (https://flic.kr/p/8o2c2T)

https://flic.kr/p/6KiYDx (https://flic.kr/p/6KiYDx)

https://flic.kr/p/8oAPWj (https://flic.kr/p/8oAPWj)

(sorry that page does not allow linking pictures ... or at least I did not find how)

Title: Re: World Champs stunter?
Post by: Igor Burger on February 04, 2015, 01:46:35 AM

and here is drawing of max 60

Title: Re: World Champs stunter?
Post by: Bill Hummel on February 04, 2015, 11:06:24 AM

Thanks Igor and everyone else. The drawing says it all!

Title: Re: World Champs stunter?
Post by: proparc on February 04, 2015, 11:49:48 AM

Thank you Igor for your wonderful generosity and willingness to share. A true Champion!!

Title: Re: World Champs stunter?
Post by: Bill Little on February 04, 2015, 12:22:08 PM

Hi Igor, Thanks!

I will try what you suggested, maybe they can be convinced! :)

Thanks, again,
Bill