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Title: World Championships
Post by: Trostle on May 09, 2016, 05:52:48 AM
Results are being posted near real time as Bill Lee suggested should happen.

http://www.cl-wch2016per.org//index.php

It appears that not all pilots have been scheduled to get their second flight for the day.  Orestes and Paul look to be in good shape based on their scores on their respective circles.  David is OK also.

Keith
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: Alan Resinger on May 09, 2016, 07:14:36 AM
Thanks Keith.  I was just getting ready to post the same thing.  Circle "A" scores seem to be significantly lower that "B" which would seem to favor Orestes a little.  Some strong flights from past winners Igor and Richie K.  David's first round flight was early in the day on the 'A" circle so look forward to seeing what he does on Tuesday.
Alan
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: Brett Buck on May 09, 2016, 02:03:40 PM
Results are being posted near real time as Bill Lee suggested should happen.

http://www.cl-wch2016per.org//index.php

It appears that not all pilots have been scheduled to get their second flight for the day.  Orestes and Paul look to be in good shape based on their scores on their respective circles.  David is OK also.

   Unfortunately that one is blocked for me right now, but it's also the middle of the night, so I doubt that a lot of scores will be posted between now and the time I get home...

    David was third on his circle earlier, so I think he's in good shape, too. Just got to get through to the end which is roughly 8th or above on your circle, assuming they are reasonably balanced (which they appear to be).  

    Brett
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: wwwarbird on May 09, 2016, 08:48:22 PM
 Looks like our boys have a little catchin' up to do? ;D  

 Howard, can you overnight some VG's? :##
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: Brett Buck on May 09, 2016, 09:05:06 PM
Looks like our boys have a little catchin' up to do?

   Actually looks pretty good after most of one round - Orestes well out in 1st, Paul 5h and David 6th.  I predict David beating his 1st A flight pretty easily unless something serious happens, so he's likely only going up from here.  You never know, but unless circle A balloons to the stratosphere, pretty solid for the flyoff, I would say.

     Brett
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: wwwarbird on May 09, 2016, 09:11:17 PM

 Aye, now it looks like it must have updated since I first checked.
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: Howard Rush on May 09, 2016, 11:27:39 PM
Looks like the second rounds in each circle (rounds 3 and 4 on the scoreboard) have started.  Wx can be found here: http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDW60901/IDW60901.94608.shtml#other_formats
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: Brett Buck on May 09, 2016, 11:55:43 PM
Looks like the second rounds in each circle (rounds 3 and 4 on the scoreboard) have started. 

   Hmm, catch-up time, the scores have gone up about 100 points! Thats going to compress the scores - at least for those who fly this afternoon.

     Brett
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: Howard Rush on May 10, 2016, 02:52:42 AM
Looks like our combat guys all won today.  Yesterday they all lost.
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: Paul Walker on May 10, 2016, 07:13:31 AM
BIG balloon this afternoon.  Unfortunate for those that flew in the morning.

US team looking good for "team" gold!
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: Derek Barry on May 10, 2016, 10:45:10 AM
BIG balloon this afternoon.  Unfortunate for those that flew in the morning.

US team looking good for "team" gold!

AWESOME!!! I agree, it's looking good.

Derek
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: Brett Buck on May 10, 2016, 01:28:49 PM
BIG balloon this afternoon.  Unfortunate for those that flew in the morning.

    Might be even more unfortunate for those who have to fly on the same circle tomorrow morning, depending on how it goes. Won't affect you guys, but it might get someone. All in all, you knew the 900's couldn't hold in there all week, it had to go up at some point. Better now than in the finals.

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US team looking good for "team" gold!

    Indeed, going to hard to beat that.

     Brett
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: Brent Williams on May 10, 2016, 01:36:11 PM
Sorry if this is a silly question, but could you define the term "balloon?"  
Contextually, I assume it's related to artificially elevated point scoring.
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: Howard Rush on May 10, 2016, 03:49:12 PM
Sorry if this is a silly question, but could you define the term "balloon?" 
Contextually, I assume it's related to artificially elevated point scoring.

"Balloon" is stunt jargon for the tendency for scores to increase as the day goes on.  Unlike many stunt scoring myths, this tendency seems to be real.  I have looked at scoring data and have seen it.  The world champs is a big contest and their procedure is to have everyone fly in each of the preliminary rounds before the same set of judges. Thus one round takes more than one day.  It is difficult to have consistent judging and consistent weather over a whole round.  Round start times and contestant flight orders are staggered, as I recall, to ameliorate the problem. We have a different procedure for the US Nationals.  Our rounds are compressed into a pretty short time, but we have fewer contestants and use more circles.   
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: Steve Helmick on May 10, 2016, 04:17:30 PM
I looked through all the results, and noticed that Austin W. Minor (currently 42nd place) is listed as being from ISR (Israel, I'd bet). Could be correct, but I'd bet a (Aussie) dollar it isn't. If this is an error, it would probably affect the team position, so I hope it would get corrected if it's not.  S?P

Funny thing about that ballooning thing in stunt judging...I usually seem to give lower scores in the 2nd round. Probably because my feet hurt by then?  ??? Steve
 

 
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: Howard Rush on May 10, 2016, 05:14:48 PM
Two Minor brothers, Andy and Cary, are former Texans living in Kansas City.  Andy is on the US F2D team.  Yes, curiously, Cary is on the Israeli team.  Austin is listed as a Junior, so I presume he's related to Andy or Cary.  I don't know how they came to be on the Israeli team, but I hope the surgery wasn't too painful. 

In other international F2D news, Greg Wornell of the Dreaded Canadian Combat Contingent is on the US F2D team, but he's been living in Boston for a long time.  Alex Prokofievs, who also lives in Boston, I think, is on the Latvian F2D team.  Leonardo Silva, a US citizen, is the F2D pilot for Mexico.  His pit crew is Chuck Rudner and Andy Mears, both of whom have been on US F2D teams, but live in parts of the US that were formerly in Mexico. 

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: proparc on May 10, 2016, 05:50:12 PM
Austin is listed as a Junior, so I presume he's related to Andy or Cary.  I don't know how they came to be on the Israeli team, but I hope the surgery wasn't too painful. 
Hope this helps.

Oy Vay!! LL~ LL~
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: Tom_Fluker on May 11, 2016, 06:48:08 AM
Austin is listed as a Junior, so I presume he's related to Andy or Cary.  I don't know how they came to be on the Israeli team, but I hope the surgery wasn't too painful. 


Austin is Andy's son.  Austin and Carey are flying for the Israeli team while Andy is flying for the US.
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: john e. holliday on May 11, 2016, 11:50:23 AM
I always thought you had to be a citizen of a country to fly for them? S?P
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: Ken Burdick on May 11, 2016, 12:11:51 PM
Looks like Leo and Nadine have only one nick...good as it gets for the competition so far.
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: tom brightbill on May 11, 2016, 06:06:43 PM
Kaz has posted some photos on his web site:

http://kazminato.cocolog-nifty.com/
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: Shawn Lenci on May 11, 2016, 06:58:26 PM
I really like the photo of Jim Aron's new model and the tribute to his wonderful dog "Chumlee."  Nice job Jim!

Shawn
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: Randy Cuberly on May 11, 2016, 07:16:56 PM
Not that it means too much in the overall competition but I noticed that David F. had the highest single score yesterday.  It's at least a good omen!  y1 y1 #^

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: Howard Rush on May 11, 2016, 08:58:49 PM
The only US F2D pilot left in the competition: 3-1 as of now:
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: Howard Rush on May 12, 2016, 12:39:00 AM
Aw shucks.  Sasha's out: 3-2

Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: john e. holliday on May 12, 2016, 11:48:46 AM
Well at least they all tried.  Congrats to the team.
Title: Re: World Championships
Post by: EddyR on May 12, 2016, 12:09:11 PM
The Russian Jr flyer must be something special in F2D. First overall with no losses. #^
Ed