Why all the engine tinkering?????????

[Bob Zambelli]

As some of you may have noticed, I've made some posts in the engine and OTS sections regarding some engines that I'm working on.

BUT, I'm kind of surprised that very few people have inquired as to the purpose of my endeavours.

So, here's the scoop. If things go as planned, we will soon see a very unique model aviation museum - one dedicated to Control Line Flying, including every phase and as much history as possible.

The plan is to feature as many different types of aircraft as possible, including kits, ARFs, and handbuilt.

Also planned  is a replica of a real hobby shop - you know, the kind we had in the 50s with engines displayed in a glass counter, kits stacked up against the wall and planes hanging from the ceiling. We even have an old brass cash register to complete the effect.

Besides planes, we will have accessories (Remember the old Perfect tank displays?), magazines and engines.

For the engines, we plan to have a display like no other anywhere in the world.
We will have everything, including compressed air, CO2, spark, C.I, glow, jet and rocket.

What I would really like is some suggestions as to how to arrange the display.
Chronological?
By country?
By displacement?
By type (spark, glow, etc)?

Please, all suggestions are welcome.

There will be over 200 brands, representing every country that has ever made a model airplane engine. If all goes well, there will be over 2,000 on display.

Bob Z.

[Bill Gruby]

   


Bob Z.

   If it were me it would go like this:


                             Country of origin
                                     1) Manufacturer
                                           a) Sparkers by year and displacement
                                           b) Glow by and displacement year
                                           c) Diesels by year and displacement
    Just my opinion FWIW

                "Billy G"

[Bob Zambelli]

Billeegee - good suggestion. That would make an interesting way of categorizing.

Each engine will be displayed with a small plaque, giving as much information as possible.
Every engine displayed will have its own dossier, including photographs and information like country and year of manufacture, displacement, serial number, a general descripion and the owner's name.
The data will be stored on a disk and updated as needed.

I also plan to have an orphanage - that is, a section set aside for engines with no name or means to identify.
I will supply a little paper pad for anyone who may know the engine. He/she can fill in the details and then I can move the engine to its proper home - with credit to the identifier, of course.

The museum will also solicit display engines for loan. They would, of course,  be returned to the owner on demand.

Does this sound like a fun project or what!!!!

Bob Z.

[Bill Gruby]

 


Bob Z.

      I am far from the best but I know a little, LOL, if I can help in any way what-so-ever please let me know?
 I may even have a couple of "RARE" ones that need a real home where they can be seen by all. Keep after it, it is your "Dream" make it happen my friend.
 
    "Billy G" 

[Bob Zambelli]

Of course, you will visit the museum when it opens - right?

Bob Z.

[Bill Gruby]

  Bob Z;

                I WOULD NOT MISS THAT DAY FOR THE WORLD

   
       "Billy G" 

[minnesotamodeler]

So Bob, where is this Amazing Emporium gonna be? 

[Roger Vizioli]

Bob,
Did a "very minor" revision to Billy G's suggestion, on excel, sent to your e-mail.
Roger
ps Also sent copy to Billy G, no secrets among friends!!!!!!!!

[Bill Gruby]

Roger;

   Thanx for including me, that slight improvement is perfect, Bob Z. will love it.



    "Billy G"   

[minnesotamodeler]

Still don't know where in the world (literally) this attraction will be.  Don't you want visitors?

[Tom McClain]

This museum and old time hobby shop already exists in Muncie Indiana at the AMA Museum.  Check it out.  It is everything Mr. Zambelli says it is.

[Garf]

Here are a few pics of the AMA museum.

[Keith Spriggs]

A couple of weeks ago when I was on my way to the North American Model Engineers Society show in Toledo , I detoured through Muncie and visited the museum. I had high expectations and it far exceed anything I could imagine. One thing that surprised me that I never saw any donors names on the display items.

[Tom McClain]

Yes, the AMA museum and its staff are one of a kind.  In 2000 I contacted the staff and got digital pictures of Steve Wooley's Cobra (which hangs in the hobby shop museum rafters).  From those pictures I built my Cobra and created the water slide decals of Steve's  unique Cobra artwork.  The AMA museum is truly a jewel among jewels.

[L0U CRANE]

Bob, to your post #1:

Where would this be?

It sounds interesting, of course, but where I am is too far for me to even consider the AMA Nats, unless I practice to be competitive in Skill Class. Anywhere east of Muncie is even further out of the question, particularly just to see a museum reflecting what I recall from my youth, lo, so many years ago...

[minnesotamodeler]

This museum and old time hobby shop already exists in Muncie Indiana at the AMA Museum.  Check it out.  It is everything Mr. Zambelli says it is.

Now I'm confused (not hard to do).  The original post seems to indicate this is a new project--"soon to be", "planned", "will have/be", etc.  If so, where "will" it be?  If not, and Muncie (very impressive, by the way) is being referenced, why the use of future tense? 

Someone help me out here! (I seem to be making that plea more and more often these days...)

--Ray

[Bill Gruby]

To All;

    You will have to wait for Bob Z. to jump back in here, but Lou and Ray you are correct,this is a new museum not the AMA museum. At least that is what Bob has told me in a PM. This should put an end to everyones guesswork? This is Bob' dream, only he can explain it to you.  FWIW

         "Billy G" 

[Tom McClain]

I predict that Mr. Zambelli will announce that this "future CL museum" will be in Carmichael's, PA.  I predict it is actually the original idea of Mr. Brodak that he told me and others of many years ago during several Brodak Flyins.  Now, maybe, Mr. Brodak is finally going to do it.

[Bob Zambelli]

Thank you all for your input, suggestions and questions.

First, I must apologize for not answering sooner but all my e-mail correspondence is done from my office, as I do not have internet service at home. Any e-mail I receive after 4:00 PM on Friday will go unanswered until Monday morning.

First off - yes, if things go AS PLANNED, the museum will be in Carmichaels. In all likelihood, adjacent to the manufacturing facility.
Please note that I said AS PLANNED, as nothing is definite until ground is broken.

It is not meant to be a copy of the one in Muncie but just a small and very unique single-purpose endeavour.
The one at the AMA headquarters is all-encompassing, capturing every phase of the sport, from the simplest hand launched gliders to the most advanced RC birds. Rightly so as Muncie does indeed cater to all the disciplines.

As Carmichaels has become kind of a CL mecca, hosting the biggest event of its kind in the world, an all CL museum would indeed fit right in. Many kind people have already donated or offered to loan substantial inventories of relevant artifacts. The only thing regarding RC that you might expect to see are engines - remember, many of the finest and most popular CL engines have been converted from RC, in particular the 4-stroke variety.


Since I plan to retire very soon, I will be spending considerable time in Carmichaels once things are underway. We will do as much "up-front" planning as possible to insure the best and most informative facility of its kind anywhere.

With the monumental success of the Fly-In, can anyone imagine any reason as to why it would not succeed?

When will it happen?? There is no set date as yet.

Since this would be set up for the enjoyment and education of all interested in CL flying, I would like to hear and read any suggestions as to how it might be developed.

Billy G. and Roger V. have already made some suggestions regarding engine categorization - any input is welcome.

Please feel free to address any questions to me.

Bob Z.

[Bob Zambelli]

In case anyone is curious, I've posted some shots of more engines that will be donated.

Check the OTS section.

Bob Z.