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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Paul Taylor on January 12, 2017, 09:41:12 AM
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I saw a video some time ago of a whipit plane.
I would like to build one for a good friend's grandson.
Does anyone have a set of plans?
Thanks in advance.
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Hey Paul, Just a quick search I came up with this. Here's the link http://www.airplanesandrockets.com/airplanes/f-84g-thunderjet-july-1970-AAM.htm
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Jim Walker sold a kit for a whip powered P-39 back about 1945, it used a bellcrank just like we do today, flew on two fishlines using a fishing pole. I had one of these and I could do simple up and down, Jim W could probably get his to loop and maybe fly inverted. I'm sure one could today. Model had about an 18" span, sheet balsa wings, profile fuselage. You could knock out one of these as a small size (Your favorite stunt ship) very easily.
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Thanks Joe and Don!
I now have something to put on my build table. #^
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Several years ago, Allen Brickhaus had some articles about these planes and had a group of local kids he worked with teaching them to fly these type models and then graduated them to powered models. Allen was great about helping youth. You might do a search on here and the other forum and see if you can come up with anything. It has been a while and I honestly don't remember where Allan was publishing this work...
Mike
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Here's Chris Wardell's whip powered ringmaster (tiny)
https://youtu.be/r1_AKEBtHF8
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I have in the shop a Blackhawk P-39 whip powered plane I've yet to fly.
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Any 1/2A will work fine. When I was a ute, I whipped my 1/2A Half Fast around in the front yard, over in Pullman, WA. Yah, that's where we exiled Mark Scarborough to. Deservedly so, I might add. Not the house, the town. He's a lucky fella... y1 Steve
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Hey Paul, Just a quick search I came up with this. Here's the link http://www.airplanesandroc it. kets.com/airplanes/f-84g-thunderjet-july-1970-AAM.htm
WOW Joe! That's amazing. My dad made me one of those (Thunder Jet) waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in the late forties!
I had a blast with it. Can't remember what ever happened to it but....
Hope your grandson has fun with it.
Jerry
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Paul,
Interesting subject.
The article that Joe Bowman introduced above on the F-84 is excellent and is a good introduction to build and fly one of these models.
There are several others that have been published over the years. These are all about the same size as the F-84 and show the same type of "propulsion" rod and bellcrank/pushrod control as the F-84.
Walt Musciano's book, Building and flying Scale Model Aircraft, has an article and 1/2 full size plans for the Bell X-1 Rocket. A neat package.
The Sep 78 issue of Model Builder magazine had an article by Dave Kingman for a whip control model he called the Cobra. Full size drawings and similar control system.
The Jan 79 issue of Model Aviation had an article by John Hunton for an F-15 whip control model. Plans were not full size but could easily be enlarged to whatever size you want. Capable of loops and inverted flying.
There may be more in the magazines, but this is what I have. Based on any of these, one could develop his own design with little trouble.
If anyone is interested, I can try to scan these drawings and post here. Or, I can mail a copy if anyone wants. The only thing is that the F-84 article does everything that these others do. Plus that F-84 is really a neat looking model. (Well, they all look pretty neat.)
Keith
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More great info.
Keith I will see if I can down load the MA issue.
Thanks again guys!
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Black hawk models has the Jr Ace 3 pack. It is a "dumb" whip model (no controls) , a whip model with controls and a glider that requires extensive airfoil shaping. I bought a set before the company changed hands, but the new website lists this kit now.
For not having controls the "Polish Hawk" is surprisingly capable.
Phil
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If I remember correctly, didn't Davey Slagle win the first C/L stunt NATS with a Walker whip powered model? I have a AJ Aircraft replica kit. The F-84 is a neat model and was actually a "second time around" for that model as it was presented in Air Trails years earlier, mid-fifties I think. I have always wanted to build the Musciano X-1 ever since I first check that book out of the library as a kid. I flew one of the AJ Aircraft replicas for a customer at the hobby shop once, years ago, in order to demonstrate how the system works. Great way for kids to get started if Mom or Dad doesn't want a child to mess with engines by themselves. A Baby Ringmaster that is set up correctly would probably do the old time pattern with some practice, and it's more quiet than an electric model!
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
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The Wind Flying article by John Hutton was featured in the American Aircraft Modeler Sept 1972 magazine.
The plane used was a Sig Banshee and a U-Reely system.
http://www.airplanesandrockets.com/resources/wind-powered-control-line-sep-1972-aam.htm
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The Wind Flying article by John Hutton was featured in the American Aircraft Modeler Sept 1972 magazine.
The plane used was a Sig Banshee and a U-Reely system.
http://www.airplanesandrockets.com/resources/wind-powered-control-line-sep-1972-aam.htm
Is this the same approach as a RC glider that hits 100 MPH in the right wind conditions? By the way a two string kite is a fun thing on a windy day. Also when you get it out the wind goes away and you can fly U-control LL~ LL~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSjFed_1Q0g
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No, Davy Slagle did not win the 46 Nat's with a Whip airplane. He flew "Chickery Chick", how many of you remember that??. A model adapted from an Ercoupe kit, possibly by Snafu. Heavily modified, it looked very much like his follow on model for the 47 Nat's "Checkala Roma" several copies having been seen at VSC. Powered by Super Cyclone engines. Not very big airplanes, about 46 inch span. Oh yes, the pop music was goofy back then too!
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Is this the same approach as a RC glider that hits 100 MPH in the right wind conditions? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSjFed_1Q0g
Hi, John-
If you refer to Dynamic Soaring, 100MPH is nothing.
RC sailplanes now have recorded speed up to.....
....505 MPH!!!!!
Hard to believe but true. I fly "F3F" sloperacing and F3B multi-task, and even those crack 100 in good conditions.
R,
Chris
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Yeah. Slope soaring gliders are the fastest models of all - 'far as I've heard. Wind energy is truly amazing.
SK
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I remembered this one, and found this.
http://culture.motiontopic.net/9535184555-instant-control-line-flying-t-38-talon-whip-line-from-2-70-m-a-n