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Offline Paul Taylor

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Is a Vector a Vector and what is SV?
« on: March 25, 2015, 07:52:01 PM »
So was talking with Chris Sterner today about the 2015 Cheezehead (yea its on!) and we started talking about the Vector. Seems like he has a set of plans that are a little different then the Brodak kit.
Is there two different Vectors? Also what does the SV stand for on the 11 and 22?

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Re: Is a Vector a Vector and what is SV?
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2015, 08:01:58 PM »
So was talking with Chris Sterner today about the 2015 Cheezehead (yea its on!) and we started talking about the Vector. Seems like he has a set of plans that are a little different then the Brodak kit.
Is there two different Vectors? Also what does the SV stand for on the 11 and 22?

Thanks
Paul

pretty sure SV stands for Stunt Vector or Stunting Vector.   and yes the Vector40 is also has an SV assigned number - I think its 20 something....but Randy will tell ya
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Re: Is a Vector a Vector and what is SV?
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2015, 08:45:19 PM »
SV-40
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Re: Is a Vector a Vector and what is SV?
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2015, 08:18:37 AM »
SV - Stunt Version. CORRECTION PLZ! Is "STUNTCRAFT VERSION" ##

And yes, there are at least two, maybe 3 versions of the Vector. An early version Called just "Vector", 630 Sq In. Designed for ST .46 or any .40 to .51(used to be pictured on Randy's web site), and the scaled down version now so popular called the "Vector 40" on his plan website. Intended powerplant, the Aero Tiger .36. Don't know how different the Brodak version(s) may be from Randy's two original Vectors. The man will probably chime in here...

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Re: Is a Vector a Vector and what is SV?
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2015, 08:57:54 AM »
I have a Vector that is an early, non-Brodak kit. It's unfinished, but when compared to the Vector ARC it appears to me that the wing has an extra panel on each side of the earlier.
As I recall, Tom Hampshire and Jim Damerell both built one (foamies, I think?) and both flew pretty well, although the choice of power was a drawback on both....

Randy told me this year that an AT 36 would be plenty of power....

I believe that the Brodak KIT version was/is the same as the ARF/ARC with minor concessions to the Chinese techniques of tabs an stuff to hold components together. The early ARC had a provision for a spinner that was smaller than 2", I believe....

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Re: Is a Vector a Vector and what is SV?
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2015, 11:23:41 AM »
SV= Super Vector?   LL~

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Re: Is a Vector a Vector and what is SV?
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2015, 12:05:53 PM »
...As I recall, Tom Hampshire and Jim Damerell both built one (foamies, I think?) and both flew pretty well, although the choice of power was a drawback on both....


Have fun!

Are you referring to the VF 40 powered Vector Hampshire has?
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Re: Is a Vector a Vector and what is SV?
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2015, 03:05:12 PM »
Hi Steve...he had "Vectra" on the wing, I believe.

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Re: Is a Vector a Vector and what is SV?
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2015, 03:15:14 PM »
Hi Paul

The original "VECTOR"  is 57.5 inch span and 630 sq in, it is a 45 to 51 sized ship, designed in the 1980s, some people have used pipe 40s in them and piped 45s also.
The 40 series of airplanes are smaller and are designed to be the 35 to 40 size, the 40s sized ones are the  VECTOR 40 , DREADNOUGHT 40, Tempest 40 and SV-40, the SV-40 looks like a small  SV-11. The Vector 40 that I designed and sell  plans, Kits, laser cut kits, ARFs, and ARCs are the same plane, we just did a new plan when I worled with John to kit the Vector 40. there are differant iso drawing and things on the Aero Plan than the Brodak kitted one, but they are the same VECTOR 40 plane.
SV stands for " STUNTCRAFT VECTOR (series)" for the new airfoil I developed that is scalable up or down in size.

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Re: Is a Vector a Vector and what is SV?
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2015, 03:36:10 PM »
Thanks Randy...
I spoke with Tom today....he built two....one with an OS 40 tuna pipe and the other with some other power....the second had a few issues. Les Demitt has it now.

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Re: Is a Vector a Vector and what is SV?
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2015, 04:23:39 PM »
Hi Paul

The original "VECTOR"  is 57.5 inch span and 630 sq in, it is a 45 to 51 sized ship, designed in the 1980s, some people have used pipe 40s in them and piped 45s also.
The 40 series of airplanes are smaller and are designed to be the 35 to 40 size, the 40s sized ones are the  VECTOR 40 , DREADNOUGHT 40, Tempest 40 and SV-40, the SV-40 looks like a small  SV-11. The Vector 40 that I designed and sell  plans, Kits, laser cut kits, ARFs, and ARCs are the same plane, we just did a new plan when I worled with John to kit the Vector 40. there are differant iso drawing and things on the Aero Plan than the Brodak kitted one, but they are the same VECTOR 40 plane.
SV stands for " STUNTCRAFT VECTOR (series)" for the new airfoil I developed that is scalable up or down in size.



Regards
Randy

Thanks Randy!
I'm on my second Brodak Vector kit. I will be contacting you for parts for the Pipe setup.
Still have a ARF in the Box.  Need to get it going too.
You can never have too many Vectors -Right?

Would it be wrong to put a SV on this plane some place??
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Re: Is a Vector a Vector and what is SV?
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2015, 05:41:24 PM »
Thanks Randy...
I spoke with Tom today....he built two....one with an OS 40 tuna pipe and the other with some other power....the second had a few issues. Les Demitt has it now.

A "tuna' pipe?  ???  Sounds fishy to me! LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~

What lb test line do you use?  LL~ LL~ LL~

Circle hooks?  LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~

This is way to much fun! y1

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Re: Is a Vector a Vector and what is SV?
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2015, 12:04:34 PM »
What's your vector Victor?

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Re: Is a Vector a Vector and what is SV?
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2015, 02:42:31 PM »
surely you can't be serious!
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Re: Is a Vector a Vector and what is SV?
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2015, 03:35:36 PM »
surely you can't be serious!

Of course I'm serious
and don't call me Shirley.

(speaking of Shirley, has anyone see Dave around? I still haven't flown his awesome F-4 yet)

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Re: Is a Vector a Vector and what is SV?
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2015, 08:49:18 PM »
Thanks Randy!
I'm on my second Brodak Vector kit. I will be contacting you for parts for the Pipe setup.
Still have a ARF in the Box.  Need to get it going too.
You can never have too many Vectors -Right?

Would it be wrong to put a SV on this plane some place??

Yep you could put  SV  on the plane and it would be correct

Randy


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