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Title: What Is This?
Post by: Larry Fernandez on August 10, 2012, 11:51:39 AM
I was given this motor a few years back but I have no clue what it is. I have never heard of CS motors before.
I plan on unloading it on Flea-Bay and would like some info on it.
Thanks guys.

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team
Title: Re: What Is This?
Post by: Dave_Trible on August 10, 2012, 12:22:33 PM
Larry,  I bought one of these off a mag ad about 10-12 years ago.  Think it was Chinese.  Came and went fast.  Gave mine to somebody in the box-never ran it.

Dave
Title: Re: What Is This?
Post by: Garf on August 10, 2012, 12:44:07 PM
CS is chinese. They like to clone otherwise successful engines, usually not too successfully.
Title: Re: What Is This?
Post by: PerttiMe on August 10, 2012, 12:47:43 PM
CS Model Engine current offering:
http://www.csmodelengine.com/index.php
Title: Re: What Is This?
Post by: Heman Lee on August 10, 2012, 09:59:31 PM
I was given this motor a few years back but I have no clue what it is. I have never heard of CS motors before.
I plan on unloading it on Flea-Bay and would like some info on it.
Thanks guys.

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team

Larry, that Chinese engine looks very similar to the type I purchased 15 years ago.  It was about a .15 size.  The other was a .46.  During break-in, it sounded like It was grinding metal.   The .061 looks very similar to Brodak's which are a piece of junk.
Title: Re: What Is This?
Post by: qaz049 on August 11, 2012, 12:42:03 AM
I was given this motor a few years back but I have no clue what it is. I have never heard of CS motors before.
I plan on unloading it on Flea-Bay and would like some info on it.
Thanks guys.

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team

Well, it looks like a standard CS 2.5cc diesel converted to glow. This may make it a little more attractive to ebay buyers but then it's missing it's prop driver.

Thousands of this Chinese design diesel were dumped on the world model engine market for peanuts so you're not going to get much for it.

They can be made to run and if yours has been home converted it might just do it.

There's an entry on then at the MEN Engine Finder site. The Silver Swallow/Yin Yan/CS engines were all the same mostly I believe.

See: http://www.modelenginenews.org/cardfile/yinyan.html (http://www.modelenginenews.org/cardfile/yinyan.html)

A fellow club member bought one of the 09 sized Chinese diesels, a Yin Yan I believe. It was also made by CS along the way.

He's an experienced engine man but couldn't get any power out of it as a diesel. So he converted it to a glow. It was even worse.

Here's a picture.

(http://controlline.org.uk/phpBB2/files/silverswallowglow_202.jpg)

Otherwise from what I've seen the power output for a radially ported glow such as this is usually in the custard pudding skin pulling region.

Might I suggest that you just save time, effort and money by throwing it away now.

 ;)

Ray.
Title: Re: What Is This?
Post by: George on August 12, 2012, 11:11:03 AM
I would suggest saving it until the famous Fox .15 hurl and see how it flies compared to a Fox.

Perhaps save the plug.

George
Title: Re: What Is This?
Post by: Larry Fernandez on August 12, 2012, 02:57:03 PM
I would suggest saving it until the famous Fox .15 hurl and see how it flies compared to a Fox.

Perhaps save the plug.

George

I like the way you think George.

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team
Title: Re: What Is This?
Post by: Steve Helmick on August 12, 2012, 03:30:37 PM
The "15" might be .15 CU IN., or  more likely 1.5 cc's, which is roughly an .09. We have some club members that are sick and twisted, and have actually flown the Silver Swallow 1.5's on sport models like the PDQ Clown. I've seen it, but can't recommend it. Save the glowplug and hurl the engine.  y1 Steve
Title: Re: What Is This?
Post by: George on August 13, 2012, 10:30:26 AM
The "15" might be .15 CU IN., or  more likely 1.5 cc's, which is roughly an .09. We have some club members that are sick and twisted, and have actually flown the Silver Swallow 1.5's on sport models like the PDQ Clown. I've seen it, but can't recommend it. Save the glowplug and hurl the engine.  y1 Steve
Actually my Silver Swallow .15 (2.47cc) ain't bad...as a sport engine.

George
Title: Re: What Is This?
Post by: Andrew Borgogna on August 13, 2012, 11:29:45 AM
Actually I had a couple of the CS diesels back when, the .15 and .09 both diesels.  As George said they were not bad engines, the NVA was suspect, but the did run.  Here is the story I heard, the CS .15 Silver Swallow was built to meet a Chinese government request for a engine that could be used in schools to teach young students the basics of model aircraft building and flying.  The CS people had so many left over that the decision was made to put them on the open market.  Like I said for the price they were not bad engines.
Andy