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Online Andre Ming

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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #150 on: September 12, 2015, 02:18:51 PM »
Combat has pit tootsies... shame about stunt.

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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #151 on: September 15, 2015, 05:50:59 PM »
The other day someone asked me about Bill James who worked for Fox.  Although I knew Bill quite well I don't remember much about his combat history except that he won 3rd in open at 1963 Nats..  Can anyone fill me in??  I think he competed mostly in the Midwest and east......
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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #152 on: September 15, 2015, 08:22:16 PM »
Well, I can say this: The last time I was in Bill's home in Fort Smith, AR (that would be the late autumn of 1970), in his trophy room were shelves and shelves of trophies. I would be afraid to guess a number, but I feel comfortable saying there were dozens. I didn't read them all, merely browsed some of them, but I think I recall seeing several 1st place trophies among the hardware? Lots of seconds and thirds, et al.


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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #153 on: September 16, 2015, 05:26:55 AM »
No doubt height played a factor here.
Just ask me how I know ;)

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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #154 on: September 16, 2015, 09:23:11 AM »
No doubt height played a factor here.
Just ask me how I know ;)

In a lot of cases maybe so, but in Carls case, no..... He flew with his elbow down, hand rarely above his head.  Never knew why, just assumed that was the way he learned to fly.. I have seen a lot of good short combat fliers....
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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #155 on: September 16, 2015, 08:07:21 PM »
Riley,  my double Voodoo kit has the short booms.  It is a Goldberg kit with blue in the label.  Do you know about when this was made?

Thanks

As I remember the double kit came out in 62 or 63... The long boom version in 65 or 66, but don't hold me to that as I am not sure...
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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #156 on: September 18, 2015, 12:21:47 PM »

The instructions show a Johnson engine.

The main plan was always the same.  The long boom mod had an additional 8-1/2 x 11 sheet showing the changes.  It also showed moving the front leadout back 1/2" for more line tension. If you are flying fast I don't think you need it and I would not use it but it is an option...........
BTW - Would anybody be interested in authentic Voodoo kits produced like they were in the old days, except laser cut and with the option of either boom??
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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #157 on: September 18, 2015, 01:44:29 PM »
The main plan was always the same.  The long boom mod had an additional 8-1/2 x 11 sheet showing the changes.  It also showed moving the front leadout back 1/2" for more line tension. If you are flying fast I don't think you need it and I would not use it but it is an option...........
BTW - Would anybody be interested in authentic Voodoo kits produced like they were in the old days, except laser cut and with the option of either boom??
RW

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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #158 on: September 18, 2015, 02:29:25 PM »
I suppose the most popular was the voodoo. To me it's not really vintage so go back a click or two to the Quicker. It did most everything you needed to do.
Riley, I know the answer to why carl flew with his hands down at his sides....he reveled it to me in an interview http://flyinglines.org/combatlegends.berryman.html

He is one of a kind.

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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #159 on: September 18, 2015, 04:27:57 PM »
Carl Berryman story:
My brother Rusty used to fly the Rat Racers, Dad would pit---meaning a ten-or-so-yr old was flying Rat with the likes of Berryman. Rusty told me of race with 5 or 6 up and big conflagration crash where he Rusty was the only plane up while guys were on the ground with a mess. He said Carl Berryman just grabbed by the waist and lifted him of the ground while he kept flying.
I wish I remembered seeing that.

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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #160 on: September 18, 2015, 11:13:57 PM »
The main plan was always the same.  The long boom mod had an additional 8-1/2 x 11 sheet showing the changes.  It also showed moving the front leadout back 1/2" for more line tension. If you are flying fast I don't think you need it and I would not use it but it is an option...........
BTW - Would anybody be interested in authentic Voodoo kits produced like they were in the old days, except laser cut and with the option of either boom??
RW
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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #161 on: September 19, 2015, 07:32:09 AM »
Riley asked  " BTW - Would anybody be interested in authentic Voodoo kits produced like they were in the old days, except laser cut and with the option of either boom??"

Yes Sir!

I would definitely buy a few of the kits
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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #162 on: September 19, 2015, 06:27:51 PM »
Greetings from Parsippany, NJ!

Riley:

Yes I will buy Voodoo kits from you. (Kits - plural.)
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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #163 on: September 19, 2015, 06:38:08 PM »
Ditto   jim    ;D
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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #164 on: September 19, 2015, 09:55:54 PM »
Count me in!!!

I'd take at least a couple...maybe more!

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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #165 on: September 20, 2015, 07:07:13 PM »
Riley,
I would be interested in a voodoo kit also

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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #166 on: September 20, 2015, 08:00:24 PM »
Hey Riley, the old DOC Holliday might like a double kit if price is not too bad.   Flew a Big Iron a couple of years ago with no problem.  O course was only in the 90 mph range.
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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #167 on: September 20, 2015, 08:12:25 PM »
A double kit?  At your age you should probably fly them one at a time.
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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #168 on: September 20, 2015, 08:16:36 PM »
Watch it kid, may have to come out of retirement. LL~ LL~ LL~
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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #169 on: September 20, 2015, 08:29:26 PM »
While we are on the topic of vintage combat planes here is my Dad flying his Guillotine today.


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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #170 on: September 20, 2015, 08:55:39 PM »
A double kit?  At your age you should probably fly them one at a time.

Uhhh wait a minute Howard...I'm older than he is and I can (though I don't regularly) still fly any combat plane!!!!

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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #171 on: September 21, 2015, 04:22:47 AM »
Randy, I don`t think you can keep up with the new Combat planes. Well maybe if you fly level. But if your ringing it out I don`t think you can. Old man. LL~ n1 HB~>          Ha!

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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #172 on: September 21, 2015, 11:11:55 AM »
Riley, how about some Sneekers, please?  

Isn't anyone aware that Walter Umland  makes Sneeker kits?
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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #173 on: September 21, 2015, 12:27:12 PM »
Maybe we should have a combat shootout of all of you guys over 70. Put your nitro where your mouth is so to speak. I will watch. Since Howard is still a kid he can judge. VD~
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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #175 on: September 21, 2015, 05:01:07 PM »
The VooDoo was a great 1960's design.....built and flew a number of them over the years.  I won't need any new kits however, as I have 6 complete Goldberg double VooDoo kits that I purchased from a closing hobby shop in 1987.....price $6.95 each.  I actually purchased 8 kits, but only got around to building 4 VooDoos (2 kits worth) over the last 28 years.  I do like the idea of Sneeker kits being available as I used up all four that I previously owned.      D>K D>K

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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #176 on: September 21, 2015, 07:37:03 PM »
Maybe we should have a combat shootout of all of you guys over 70. Put your nitro where your mouth is so to speak. I will watch. Since Howard is still a kid he can judge. VD~

Are you going to have an ambulance standing by???   LL~ LL~ LL~ %^@  ::)

UUUhhhhhh...By "Nitro" are you referring to the nitro pills for chest pains?

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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #177 on: September 21, 2015, 08:58:44 PM »
I gave a Voodoo kit to Andrew Hathaway and watched him fly it. I decided it was better to watch than get wrapped up in 60' of control line cable. Ouch!
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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #178 on: September 21, 2015, 09:14:00 PM »
Eh? EH?  What's that you say sonny?

Why you little whippersnapper... if someone will help me up outta' this recliner and hand me my walker... I'll show that little pip a thing or two!!  LL~
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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #179 on: September 22, 2015, 10:19:14 AM »
Has anybody heard anymore from Riley on the kits? 

Doing a little research to see if it will be feasible as I will need to contract part of the process...... Also might do a couple of old designs that were never published or kitted...
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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #180 on: September 24, 2015, 11:26:41 PM »
Rusty,
That's quite a statement..LOL.......  Leaving the mountains back to Texas tomorrow..  When I get settled I am going to start a thread titled "50's & 60's combat history" ! Think it might be interesting.
RW       

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Re: What is the best vintage combat plane?
« Reply #181 on: September 25, 2015, 12:12:00 AM »
Rusty,
That's quite a statement..LOL.......  Leaving the mountains back to Texas tomorrow..  When I get settled I am going to start a thread titled "50's & 60's combat history" ! Think it might be interesting.
RW       

Terriffic Riley!  That's what I've been waiting to read!

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Re: Blank
« Reply #182 on: May 12, 2024, 08:57:45 AM »
 Can someone fix the title on this thread to its original name instead of Blank.
(what-is-the-best-vintage-combat-plane)
Thanks Al

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What Is The Best Vintage Combat Plane?
« Reply #183 on: May 12, 2024, 09:57:51 AM »
Can someone fix the title on this thread to its original name instead of Blank.
(what-is-the-best-vintage-combat-plane)
Thanks Al

      I have asked before that Riley's thread about 50's and 60's Combat be pinned to the top of the Combat section to make it easy to find. I enjoyed reading it as he wrote it and need to revisit it in the near future. I just went looking for it and finally found it so here is a link:
           https://stunthanger.com/smf/open-forum/50's-60's-combat-history/150/

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