What is fun scale and Profile scale events???

[Paul Taylor]

Can someone tell me what "Fun Scale" and "Profile Scale" events are.

I want to fly in as much stuff as I can while at Brodaks and not sure if my TwistStang can be used. Also what patteren do they fly?

Thanks

Paul

[john e. holliday]

It is in the AMA rule book.  But, the gist of it is:  Profile Scale is as stated with documentation to prove the various details and color scheme.  In Fun Scale you can use an ARF/ARC and all you need is a three view of the plane the model is supposed to represent.  The Fun Scale is more about flying.  I have a copy of an RC Scale plane that I fly once in a great while.  Later,  DOC Holliday

[Bill Gruby]

Paul;

  I did your leg work.  LOL

                        http://www.modelaircraft.org/comp/0708rulebook/Scale.pdf

       The info for both is on page SC-12

      "Billy G"   

[Paul Taylor]

OK so if I read this right,
You have to have a throttle on your engine.

And the pattern is:
Take off and you have to lift the tail of the plane first.
One inside loop
One wing over
One Figure 8
Land
Taxi
 

[minnesotamodeler]

Is that all? I had a Rat Racer that would do that.  'Course it wasn't scale anything.

[Trostle]

OK so if I read this right,
You have to have a throttle on your engine.

And the pattern is:
Take off and you have to lift the tail of the plane first.
One inside loop
One wing over
One Figure 8
Land
Taxi
 

Paul,

I am not sure where you picked up on the schedule you posted above.

First, the question was for an explanation for Profile and Sport Scale.    The Rules for Control Line Scale provide for CL Precision Scale, CL Sport Scale, Cl Profile Scale and CL Fun Scale.  The rulebook outlines the details for each of these events.

Profile Scale is similar to Sport Scale except that it must have a profile fuselage with limits on the width of the fuselage and engine nacelle(s).  There is a static score with 100 points available based on Accuracy of Outline, Crafsmanship and a category for Finish, Color and Markings.  There is a flight score where another 100 points are available based on Takeoff, 10 airborne laps, landing, realisim in flight and up to 6 options that are listed in the rulebook.

Fun Scale is somewhat different from the Sport or Profile Scale where only 10 points are awarded for fidelity to scale (5 points) and for color and markings (5 points).  For flying , 100 points can be obtained as in the Sport/Profile events.  The six options can be taken from the rulebook listing of options where there are up to 15 options listed including a category for other functions not listed.  So you do not have to have a throttle and you are not required to do any loops or a wingover or a figure 8.  However, to garner max points for the realism of flight, it would probably is advisable to have a throttle.

It is all in the rulebook and it is fairly clear.  The rulebook this year is a lot easier to read  and understand than in recent years.

Keith Trostle

[peabody]

Hi Paul....
Fun Scale was pioneered by the Garden State Circle Burners, and their version is FUN! Unfortunately, some individuals with giant egos that do not fly twisted them to parallel R/C fun scale rules....

It is a much better non-rule book event......

Here are the GSCB Fun Scale 2000 rules...compare them to the AMA.
Fun Scale 2000

 Several years ago, a few members of the Garden State Circle Burners got together and created this event. It’s a stepping-stone into other scale events. Together with Rich Peabody, we have revised these rules and scoring slightly, in order to put more emphasis on documenting your model as well as truer scale building. Planes should be models of full sized aircraft capable of flight.

 This is one scale event where non-throttled planes have a good chance of placing so semi-scale stunters are welcome! Throttles will however, receive more bonus points as we have added “realism in flight” bonus points.

DOCUMENTATION

 Documentation of your aircraft is part of your score. Based on 0-10 points, minimal documentation can be a picture of the real airplane from a model plane kit box, a tee shirt, a calendar, etc. Moderate documentation would include three views and a description and or photo of color and markings. More advanced documentation would be three views, photos of the aircraft from different angles as well as a brief history about the plane.  Sometimes, the photo of the plane you are flying will differ slightly from the three views, so be sure to point out to the judges that your plane is modeled after the picture, not the three views.
 
 A great source for these documents is Bob Banka’s Scale Documentation Catalog. He is usually at the WRAM show in February, but I’m sure he can be found in any model magazine. He is very helpful and provides a great service. You may also find a plethora of information on the Internet.

SCORING THE FLIGHT
 
 All categories in this event will be scored on a 0-10 point basis. First the aircraft is static judged from a distance of 15 feet. What are the judges looking for? They are comparing the provided documentation to the model, color and markings, finish, craftsmanship and overall conforming outlines of the plane, wings, etc.

 Prior to your flight you will give the judges your flight plan. This is a total of six maneuvers of your choice. They must be performed in the order you give the judges. Mandatory for every flight: take-off and landing (these do not count for the 6 total maneuvers). All scale flights become official after you have completed 10 level laps after take-off.  This is scored one point for each lap completed. Remember, the laps begin at the point from which the wheels leave the ground, not the take-off point. If you are flying throttle control, make the take-off appropriate for the plane you are flying, a racer or carrier ship would not require as long a roll out as would a bi-plane or a Cub. Be sure to tell the judges if you will be using a short takeoff, because the usual roll out for scale planes is approximately ¾ of a lap or so.

 For those of you flying stunt ships, you can do up to any 6 aerobatic maneuvers in the current AMA handbook. These should be stunts the full sized airplane is capable of doing.  Options may also include 3 laps at 30 or 45 degrees.

 For throttled flyers, again, you may do up to any 6 maneuvers in the current AMA handbook. These may be throttle options or aerobatic maneuvers. Touch and go is counted as two options. All wheels must touch the ground; stay planted for about ½ a lap and then take-off. Taxi, (also two maneuvers) is performed by landing the airplane, rolling it out to a stop, (preferably in front of the judges) then announcing, “Begin taxi!” Drive the plane on the ground for ONE complete lap, without stopping, back to the point you started the taxi and then come to a complete stop. This works best when you are able to demonstrate throttle control, because you may then shut off the engine. If you choose engine control as an option, be sure to demonstrate varying speeds during your entire flight,   especially during the 10 qualifying laps, as well as shutting the engine off after you have completed your flight.

BONUS POINTS

 An additional 5 points will be added if you built the model (2 points if the model is an ARF) and up to an additional 10 bonus points for realism in flight. Maximum score for the entire event is 125 points.

CONTACT US

 This event is fun and even if you are not a scale flyer, come and watch and you too may get hooked on scale. We are trying to preserve and promote a very specialized area of building with this event. If you have any questions or seek more information on this or any other scale event contact the GSCB.