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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Paul Taylor on January 21, 2022, 11:01:06 AM
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Please advise.
Thanks.
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Deans on all my electric components.
Best, DennisT
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I'm using Deans (right) but I would think T60's would be ok as well.
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I have used both the Deans and the T-60. The T-60 is a better connector if you have to do all of the soldering, but it is bulky. Deans are easier to use after soldering and much smaller. It took a while to learn how to use Deans, and you have to be careful not to get the cheap ones that can't take the heat, but all things considered, they are better.
Ken
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I use XT-60, because I'm lazy, they're easy to get, they seem to be as close to an industry standard as we have (and the cheap battery packs come with them installed).
If I had to source my own parts and assemble my own connectors onto everything, I'd probably use Deans. But, see "lazy", above.
... Deans, and you have to be careful not to get the cheap ones ...
"Deans" is an actual brand name, and if I recall from some looking around on the web, they will sell direct.
So the way to know you're not getting the cheap ones is if the package actually says "Deans".
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Please advise.
Thanks.
Hi Paul,
Deciding what connectors to use was a decision that I had to make when building my first electric plane. I had been told on a couple of occasion that some have had issues with the Dean's connector after some time. Perhaps they were the lower quality ones, I not sure. What happens is the spring tab on the side of the pole of the Dean's connector has a tendency to lose it "springiness" because of heat and can cause intermittent contact. So I made the decision to use the XT60 connector. Yes, the XT60 connectors are larger and weight a little more, but it a very robust connector. I also find the XT60 connectors easier to grab hold of and connect and disconnect my batteries. So far I have over 250 flights on my plane with no battery connection issues.
Dennis
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I have both in my collection of stuff, so I have adapters that can convert a deans to the XT60. They both work, just pick the one you like the best.
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The XT connectors seem to have better cross vendor compatibility than the Deans style. The way the tension is done in the connector on the Deans style is tough for various maker to get to work right making some really difficult to use. The XT design doesn't seem have that problem as much. I have both but as time goes on, I converting over to XT.
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XT-60. Hundreds of flights without a problem.
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I set up with Deans when that was the only good connector available. However if I was starting over today I would use XT-60. Much easier to solder, look more durable and they have become the standard.
At this stage, I just do not feel like changing over my 15 year accumulation of batteries, chargers, & ESC's that all have Deans!
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Are there known problems with the EC3 connectors?
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"Deans" is an actual brand name, and if I recall from some looking around on the web, they will sell direct.
So the way to know you're not getting the cheap ones is if the package actually says "Deans".
Deans is a brand name and the connectors in questions are called "Ultra Plugs." Deans was closely connected to Ace R/C in Higgensville, MO back in the day and have a variety of multi pinned connectors also. The name of the game is what resistance a connector may cause and any kind of voltage or current drop may occur. My first exposure to this kind of stuff was back in my R/C sailplane days back in the 1980's and we started to build electric assisted models. The connector of choice was a round connector out of England at that time. An article I read some where back then did a test on all available connectors on the market and this high collar gold plated connector from England was number one on the list. The second in line the common 1/4" spade connector that you see everywhere and can even but at Walgreens drug stores I think! Then came the then new connectors made by John Sermos I think at number three. I wonder if anyone has done a similar test recently??
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
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Following Bill Bischoff's lead, I used XT60 connectors on my GBR (GloBee Replacement) battery system for racing.
Bill
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My titanium/silicone interface has a very very small internal resistance. L
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Are there known problems with the EC3 connectors?
The spring action in EC3 is from the brass pin body, which is also the electrical conductor.
For better or worse, the Deans style separates these two functions.
I seem to recall that Samantha had an issue with her EC3s in France,motor would not start for one flight, and the fix was to pry open the cross a bit.
The best connector design was probably the Astro Flight "Zero loss", but it basically went nowhere. Too expensive.
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I started with deans and will switch all the new stuff to XT60. XT re easier to solder and provides more protection. The pins are the same as the inline bullet connections.
Use the XT ones.
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Thanks guys. XT 60 is what I will go with.
I weighed both and the difference is 1g. (That was both male and female connectors together. )
I struggled with cutting a good XT 60 off a battery just to butcher a Deans trying to soldier it on. 🥴
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Thanks guys. XT 60 is what I will go with.
I weighed both and the difference is 1g. (That was both male and female connectors together. )
I struggled with cutting a good XT 60 off a battery just to butcher a Deans trying to soldier it on. 🥴
Been there, done that. Now, I'm going the other way.
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Been there, done that. Now, I'm going the other way.
I order mine with Deans for just that reason. Battery to Deans is not something you want your homeowner's insurance company to know about. I too will switch for the next battery batch. Main reason I use Deans is that the rest of our bunch uses them, and it is easier to bum a battery in a pinch.
Ken
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I order mine with Deans for just that reason. Battery to Deans is not something you want your homeowner's insurance company to know about. I too will switch for the next battery batch. Main reason I use Deans is that the rest of our bunch uses them, and it is easier to bum a battery in a pinch.
Ken
That's a good enough reason. Fortunately I am the leader in our group so, I get to coach them on what to use. I was reluctant to make the transition but all of the equipment seems to be headed that way. As the old stuff withers away, it is replaced with the XT. All of my good parallel boards are XT which is a significant driving element.
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All of my good parallel boards are XT which is a significant driving element.
I just bought the Thunder Power 4-position charger. I don't see a need to charge more than four at a time, and not having to worry about the details is nice.
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I just bought the Thunder Power 4-position charger. I don't see a need to charge more than four at a time, and not having to worry about the details is nice.
I have from 5 to 7 flight packs depending on the plane. I'm generally charging 5 or 6 at a time and if I need to do 7 I put the last one on the other charge channel which I generally don't do because 7 flights is a lot. Parallel charging is the way. Granted it isn't for the casual faint of heart. There are a few details one must maintain in the process but those aren't overly taxing when you get the hang of it.