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Title: Werwage Vulcan plans
Post by: Gerald Schamp on January 20, 2021, 01:01:01 PM
Does anyone have or know where to get plans for Bully's Vulcan. Thanks in advance, Gerald Schamp.
Title: Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
Post by: Steve Helmick on January 20, 2021, 01:53:21 PM
"Bully"?   LL~ Steve
Title: Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
Post by: Randy Powell on January 20, 2021, 04:05:18 PM
Doesn't Warren Tiahrt have plans, too? Could be wrong. MA plan service is probably the best place to look.
Title: Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
Post by: Page Peterson on January 20, 2021, 04:17:31 PM
December 2007 Model Aviation Plan #1011
Title: Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
Post by: Jim Hoffman on January 20, 2021, 05:54:53 PM
My USA-1 and the in work Lunar were both drawn by Warren Tiahrt.  The accuracy, quality, and detail is excellent on both 
Title: Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
Post by: john e. holliday on January 21, 2021, 12:36:35 PM
And one thing about ordering plans from the AMA plans site you sometimes get two copies with the copy of printed article. D>K
Title: Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
Post by: Steve Lotz on January 21, 2021, 02:22:38 PM
How would I go about getting a set of Lunar plans?
Title: Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
Post by: john e. holliday on January 22, 2021, 10:41:56 AM
Same source,  AMA Plans D>K
Title: Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
Post by: Steve Lotz on January 23, 2021, 02:18:06 AM
AMA does not list the Lunar in their plans. Is there any other source?
Title: Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
Post by: M Spencer on January 23, 2021, 06:40:38 PM
With an ' L ' or a ' J ' . oran ' O ' .  :(

(https://outerzone.co.uk/images/_thumbs/plans/7404.jpg)


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Title: Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
Post by: Scott Richlen on February 01, 2021, 03:35:01 PM
A comparison of dimensions of the Juno to the Junar would be interesting.  How many years between the two designs?
Title: Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
Post by: Howard Rush on February 01, 2021, 03:39:57 PM
... he uses a good old fashioned drawing board and pen and ink! A man after my own heart.

Warren is very old.
Title: Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
Post by: Trostle on February 01, 2021, 05:41:16 PM
A comparison of dimensions of the Juno to the Junar would be interesting.  How many years between the two designs?

Juno:  Flying Models - January 1980

Junar:  Flying Models - January 1991

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USA 1:  Model Aviation - March 2004.  Won the World Championship in 1970 (after placing 3rd at the 70 Nats).  Also,  repeated the World Championship in 1972, was second at the 1974 World Championships behind Bob Gieseki.   Nationals Stunt Championship in 1971 and 1981.

Keith
Title: Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
Post by: Scott Richlen on February 02, 2021, 06:19:36 AM
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Juno:  Flying Models - January 1980

Junar:  Flying Models - January 1991

An 11 year difference.  I suppose the increase in side area was occasioned by the use of a piped engine, but I wonder if this was also a welcome change in that it increased the side area?  If he built a new design using an electric system would he decrease the side area to that of older designs?  I'll be Brett would say not?

The flapped ribs on the Juno are an art form all by themselves.

I notices that he also deleted the forward sweep of the trailing edge and capped the front of the leading edge, but not to the extent of most sheeted leading edges.  Why do you think he did that?

To me the Juno looks like a derivation of the Super Ares whereas the lineage from Juno to Junar is not as apparent.
Title: Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
Post by: Dennis Leonhardi on February 02, 2021, 05:24:08 PM
Same source,  AMA Plans D>K

I just received several plans from AMA last week.  The service and prices are excellent, I highly recommend them!

Dennis
Title: Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
Post by: M Spencer on February 02, 2021, 08:53:42 PM
I notices that he also deleted the forward sweep of the trailing edge and capped the front of the leading edge, but not to the extent of most sheeted leading edges.  Why do you think he did that?

Mentions trim in Yaw & Roll , in the P-47 artical. so later avoided T E Sweep .

Er Whoops . re read . Thats diheadral hes complaining about . on outsides .

Id found the opposite with that ! .

Sure ive seen a Yaw / Flap hinge sweep comentary somewhere . Pretty sure it was Bill .