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Offline Gerald Schamp

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Werwage Vulcan plans
« on: January 20, 2021, 01:01:01 PM »
Does anyone have or know where to get plans for Bully's Vulcan. Thanks in advance, Gerald Schamp.

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Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2021, 01:28:04 PM »
Hi Ger:

They are available through the Model Aviation plans service.

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Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2021, 01:53:21 PM »
"Bully"?   LL~ Steve
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Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2021, 04:05:18 PM »
Doesn't Warren Tiahrt have plans, too? Could be wrong. MA plan service is probably the best place to look.
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Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2021, 04:17:31 PM »
December 2007 Model Aviation Plan #1011

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Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2021, 05:17:23 PM »
Warren actually drew the plans and then inked them. They were turned in to Model Aviation when Billy sold the design to that magazine for publication. MA owns the rights to the plane and the plans. Not that that stops some individuals from pirating plans...  n1

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Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2021, 05:54:53 PM »
My USA-1 and the in work Lunar were both drawn by Warren Tiahrt.  The accuracy, quality, and detail is excellent on both 

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Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2021, 05:37:29 AM »
As Jim wrote, Warren is a very accomplished draftsman. His stuff is accurate and clean, and... he uses a good old fashioned drawing board and pen and ink! A man after my own heart. y1

The plans for Billy's World (two times) and National Champion (two times) USA-1 are also available from Model Aviation, as are the plans for his National Champion 1959 Ares (you know, the "good one."), and his World and National Champion P-47 Thunderbolt.

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Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2021, 12:36:35 PM »
And one thing about ordering plans from the AMA plans site you sometimes get two copies with the copy of printed article. D>K
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Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2021, 02:22:38 PM »
How would I go about getting a set of Lunar plans?

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Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2021, 10:41:56 AM »
Same source,  AMA Plans D>K
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Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2021, 02:18:06 AM »
AMA does not list the Lunar in their plans. Is there any other source?

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Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2021, 06:40:38 PM »
With an ' L ' or a ' J ' . oran ' O ' .  :(






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Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2021, 03:35:01 PM »
A comparison of dimensions of the Juno to the Junar would be interesting.  How many years between the two designs?

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Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2021, 03:39:57 PM »
... he uses a good old fashioned drawing board and pen and ink! A man after my own heart.

Warren is very old.
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Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2021, 05:41:16 PM »
A comparison of dimensions of the Juno to the Junar would be interesting.  How many years between the two designs?

Juno:  Flying Models - January 1980

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Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2021, 06:19:36 AM »
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Juno:  Flying Models - January 1980

Junar:  Flying Models - January 1991

An 11 year difference.  I suppose the increase in side area was occasioned by the use of a piped engine, but I wonder if this was also a welcome change in that it increased the side area?  If he built a new design using an electric system would he decrease the side area to that of older designs?  I'll be Brett would say not?

The flapped ribs on the Juno are an art form all by themselves.

I notices that he also deleted the forward sweep of the trailing edge and capped the front of the leading edge, but not to the extent of most sheeted leading edges.  Why do you think he did that?

To me the Juno looks like a derivation of the Super Ares whereas the lineage from Juno to Junar is not as apparent.

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Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2021, 05:24:08 PM »
Same source,  AMA Plans D>K

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Re: Werwage Vulcan plans
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2021, 08:53:42 PM »
I notices that he also deleted the forward sweep of the trailing edge and capped the front of the leading edge, but not to the extent of most sheeted leading edges.  Why do you think he did that?

Mentions trim in Yaw & Roll , in the P-47 artical. so later avoided T E Sweep .

Er Whoops . re read . Thats diheadral hes complaining about . on outsides .

Id found the opposite with that ! .

Sure ive seen a Yaw / Flap hinge sweep comentary somewhere . Pretty sure it was Bill .
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