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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Bob Hudak on May 02, 2015, 07:33:09 PM
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Was out at the Berea fairgrounds this weekend where Bill Werwage and Chris Rud showed up with the prototype Typhoon for the kit they are developing. Weighing only 58 oz. with a PA .61 on pipe and a 700 sq.in. wing, believe me when I say this one is going to be a winner. It has all the numbers of Bill's P47 and with Chris at the controls all I had to do was watch the plane and I felt as if Billl was laying it down at the field. According to these two it will have a moulded fuse shell,laser cut ribs and a bunch of other cool stuff all in the price range of a high end kit. I asked them to make it in a 40 size also. :)
Bob
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With Bill W. involved I'm sure it will be a winner and I want one of the kits when they're ready.
I've built and flown several of Bill's designs over the years, the last being a GeoXL and they were all very competitive...The GeoXL was the easiest airplane to fly well I've flown. It was easy to trim and reacted to trim always as expected. I would think this airplane will be the same!
Randy Cuberly
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I asked them to make it in a 40 size also. :)
58 ounces and 700 square inches *is* 40-sized. The most successful stunt plane of all time is 65 oz and 700 square inches and used a 40.
Brett
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58 ounces and 700 square inches *is* 40-sized.
I had the Vector 40 or Legacy 40,565 sq.in. In mind.
Bob
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I had the Vector 40 or Legacy 40,565 sq.in. In mind.
Bob
Impact+40VF has proven unbeatable in NATs competition, as recently as 2005. The Man himself flew the first, purple, P-47 with a PA-40 at the 95 NATs.
Brett
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This new Typhoon really looks awesome, and with the above power/weight specs of Chris' model it has to be one helluva performer. Anyone flying against Chris and the Typhoon this year is going to have their work cut out for them. y1
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Who will be producing the kits, and when?
Thanks.
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They have to get the old fool doing the CAD work to update the files before they can work out timing on kit availability.
Pat
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Not everyone has a 40VF, so we have to make do with a .60
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All, The P-47 kit should be ready in about 3 months.
Its a very complicated project with it being a lost foam wing, molded fuse, different motor crutch then most birds and needs to be straight and light. This isn't going to be like to many other kits.
At this point in time the kit will include:
1. Completely built lost foam wing with gear mounts in the wing constructed by Billy and myself. (the crank will be installed by purchaser to keep it BOM legal)
2. Constructed flaps, Stab and elevator, and rudder.
3. Molded top and bottom shells.
4. Tom Morris controls
5. All laser cut parts to finish the remainder of the plane and keep it BOM legal.
6. Obviously very good wood
Our goal was to give people access to a complicated scale plane series that they could construct in under 25 hours. This can be built with the average skill level. And in someways because of Pat King's CAD drawings it is easier and stronger than the way we have built in the past.
Attached are some images of the constructed pieces and the P-47. We are starting with the the bubble canopy P-47, then the Typhoon and after that we will make a Razerback option.
If you are interested in a kit please send me a private message and I will get you on the waiting list. We are still working on the price point but these kits are a lot of work to produce so the price will reflect that.
Thanks,
-Chris
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OMG!
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Impact+40VF has proven unbeatable in NATs competition, as recently as 2005. The Man himself flew the first, purple, P-47 with a PA-40 at the 95 NATs.
Brett
It certainly was a good package! I think the person at the handle may have had something to do with the success as well.
Derek
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I spoke with Todd Lee this weekend and he said he also saw Billy and Chris out there practicing. That is a lot of talent in at one flying site.
Derek
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While I do not wish a kit. I only build smaller models... I'd love to see a side view of the models outlines.. ou said it was a typhoon ?
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Chris,
Do you guys have a target price in mind? Ballpark figure?
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Chris,
Do you guys have a target price in mind? Ballpark figure?
Billy and I are estimating about 20 hours of construction time. With the Geo-dedic lost foam wing and the molded shells there is no way around this...so with the cost of the parts, wood and the labor we are aiming to have the kit priced between $600-700. It is more like a BOM legal ARC than a Kit. We aren't cutting any corners and they will be constructed as if we were going to be flying them.
I have already received several emails from people to be on the waiting list. So, if you are interested in getting a kit before this years building season I wouldn't wait to long. We only can build these so fast.
Thanks,
Chris Rud
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Thanks Chris. I was just curious and trying to get a ballpark idea of what something like this would go for, not holding you to it. When the time comes a Razorback P-47 might be awfully tempting. ;D
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With a completed wing and a constructed tail does it meet BOM criteria? I thought you could only have one constructed component?
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With a completed wing and a constructed tail does it meet BOM criteria? I thought you could only have one constructed component?
Hi Scott, The major components are the wing and the fuse. And since the purchasers are getting the fuse as a kit and they are constructing it. The kit remains BOM legal.
Here is the rule: The 2 main structures are considered to be: 1) the wing(s) and 2) the fuselage(s).
Flaps, rudders, elevators & horizontal stabilizers are not considered main structures, therefore there are no limitations on level of their prefabrication, and only the finish portion of this rule applies to them.
Thanks,
Chris Rud
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I guess I was thinking of the earlier proposed rule that had addressed three components: wing, fuselage, and tail section.