WASHINGTON STATE collecting tax on EBay purchases

[Guy Markham]

As of Jan 1st E-Bay will charge you tax on any E-Bay purchase     Just  appeared on my payment for  a  engine purchase  They just cannot get enough  $$ EVER !!

[Tony Drago]

Yep i notice that also. At least they will pay the tax to the state for you after they collect it.. (at  lest hope they will).
 Also what gets  me is that, they charge you a percentage of the shipping fees you charge. Wonder if that's legal.

[Gary Dowler]

Yep i notice that also. At least they will pay the tax to the state for you after they collect it.. (at  lest hope they will).
 Also what gets  me is that, they charge you a percentage of the shipping fees you charge. Wonder if that's legal.

Charging sales tax on shipping costs is not legal under Washington state law, but then we have a bunch of leftist, liberal, even outright socialist, "environmental warriors" in charge of things up here, who have never seen a tax they didn't like, and don't think rules apply to them, so nothing like this surprises me.

Gary

[Tony Drago]

Gary.
 I don't think the charge on the shipping is a sales tax.They have been taking a percentage of the shipping fees for a few years. It is something like 2&1/2% to 3%. Where as the sales tax rate is close to 10%. But then again. The owner of Ebay is a Lefty though.

[dennis lipsett]

It isn't just Amazon that collects sales tax for the the states, it is on its way to being implemented by every on line store. Simply put the states realize how much money they are losing and they want it.Washington and Oregon are relatively prosperous  states but many of the others are lagging in revenue. That includes left and right leaning states.
I pay 6% tax an just about everything and we still can't get the pot holes out of our roads. We all like to complain about taxes. Hiding your heads in the sand or complaining about them is really not going to make a difference weather your left or right.

[Steve Helmick]

In September 2017 I ordered online new shock absorbers for my truck, from TireRack.com. They shipped from McCarran, NV, and I was billed for WA state sales tax. I called TireRack about that, and they said they had to. All services provided also have to charge sales tax....carpet cleaners, furnace repair, haircut, carpenters, etc. Some put it on the bill and some just figure it into the price. It mostly goes to building parking lots (i.e., freeways), and for programs to entice "urban outdoorsmen" and "illegal aliens" to come enjoy the Sanctuary Cities of our beautiful state.    Steve

[john e. holliday]

How else is our illustrious politicians going to pay for their golf courses and equipment?     

[Avaiojet]

How else is our illustrious politicians going to pay for their golf courses and equipment?     

A bit more complicated than that, but you're close. 

 You'll be paying for the oxygen you breath one day.

Terrible state to live in.

[Mike Haverly]

A bit more complicated than that, but you're close. 

 You'll be paying for the oxygen you breath one day.

Terrible state to live in.

Yes, it rains all the time and it is down right horrible.  Stay away!

[Steve Helmick]

Yep, today was horrible. Saturday and Sunday were almost as bad.  Steve

[skyshark58]

I work for a Wa. state  owned college and we have to pay Wa. sales tax on anything we buy! How about that, the state pays its self sales tax

[dennis lipsett]

I work for a Wa. state  owned college and we have to pay Wa. sales tax on anything we buy! How about that, the state pays its self sales tax

There is nothing particularly unusual about that.

[Avaiojet]

There is nothing particularly unusual about that.

"Everyone must be treated equally under the law." 

[Fredvon4]

Lots of you guys don't watch the news ---I gather

Way back a few months ago the Federal law changed to allow individual states to recover lost Sales taxes to on-line retailers...YOUR/OUR representatives were lobbied hard to help level the playing field between Brick N Mortar and On-Line/Out Of State retailers

While I made nearly 2 decades of great-- on line --or mail order purchases, tax free...I fundamentally knew I was screwing over the local HOBBY SHOP...and now they are gone..closed, shut, not here when I need something RIGHT NOW...

Frugal, is good
Best bang for the buck, is good

BUT sometime we cheap arsed hobbiests do not appreciate the value of a home town Brick N Mortar store...

[Jim Carter]

Charging sales tax on shipping costs is not legal under Washington state law, but then we have a bunch of leftist, liberal, even outright socialist, "environmental warriors" in charge of things up here, who have never seen a tax they didn't like, and don't think rules apply to them, so nothing like this surprises me.

Gary

Sounds like you might want to move to Texas!!   

[Fredvon4]

Sounds like you might want to move to Texas!!   

Or perhaps NOT... we are experiencing over 100 per DAY immigrants from Commune Fornia--Or Oregon, or Washington into San Antonio, Dallas, Houston, and the Capitol Austin Texas...

I did say EVERY DAY...these transplants seem to be escaping high property costs and Excessive Taxes...Cool I can dig that

BUT!! First thing they do here in Texas--- is demand taxes be raised for new "going no where" bicycle lanes and other similar nonsense....

Right now Legislatively---- Texas is rapidly becoming California or Oregon, or Washington East

grrrrrrrrr

[dennis lipsett]

Or perhaps NOT... we are experiencing over 100 per DAY immigrants from Commune Fornia--Or Oregon, or Washington into San Antonio, Dallas, Houston, and the Capitol Austin Texas...

I did say EVERY DAY...these transplants seem to be escaping high property costs and Excessive Taxes...Cool I can dig that

BUT!! First thing they do here in Texas--- is demand taxes be raised for new "going no where" bicycle lanes and other similar nonsense....

Right now Legislatively---- Texas is rapidly becoming California or Oregon, or Washington East

grrrrrrrrr

Oh the agony. Texas is being hit with the unstoppable plague called gentrification. They will have to learn how to develop sensitivity. The horror of it all. LOLOLOLOL!

[Brett Buck]

Or perhaps NOT... we are experiencing over 100 per DAY immigrants from Commune Fornia--Or Oregon, or Washington into San Antonio, Dallas, Houston, and the Capitol Austin Texas...

I did say EVERY DAY...these transplants seem to be escaping high property costs and Excessive Taxes...Cool I can dig that

BUT!! First thing they do here in Texas--- is demand taxes be raised for new "going no where" bicycle lanes and other similar nonsense....

    If I were to move there, I certainly wouldn't be one of those!  But, then again, I am not a native Californian (and neither are most of the plague to which you refer).

     Brett

[Dennis Leonhardi]

You'll see eBay collecting sales tax on shipments to additional states as the year progresses - Iowa effective February 1st and Connecticut effective April 1st, for example.

The Supreme Court ruled in favor of South Dakota in June 2018, which removed the requirement that certain retailers have a physical presence in a state in order for that state to impose sales tax obligations on them.  Regardless of where the seller is physically located, states may require sellers to collect applicable taxes on their sales.

Several states consider shipping & handling charges to be taxable, Minnesota and Washington being 2 examples.

Is it fair?  Personally I don't see any reason to be upset - we should expect to pay on purchases made in states that have a sales tax.  And note that South Dakota doesn't have a personal income tax - obviously the state needs some source(s) of income.

There are incredibly complex criteria for determining tax rates in cities, counties, townships, parishes, transit areas ... well, let's just say it would be a nightmare for every mom and pop eBay seller to collect and report sales taxes in several states!

Fortunately for us Sellers, eBay is treated as a "Facilitator" of those sales and has the responsibility of collecting and reporting sales taxes charged on our sales.

Don't expect sales taxes to go away!

 
Dennis

[Ken Culbertson]

Before we all go down the path of "it's only fair" think about our own suppliers.  So far we have only been taxing internet sales made within a state to customers in that state.  Not a big deal, the seller is already filing in that state anyway.  What happens when the tax shifts from the point of sale to the point of delivery?  50 quarterly sales tax reports to fill out?  Ever had a sales tax audit?  50 of them lined up to go over your books?  So either prices go up to cover the administrative costs or the little guys go out of business.

Ken

[Tom Vieira]

Lots of you guys don't watch the news ---I gather

Way back a few months ago the Federal law changed to allow individual states to recover lost Sales taxes to on-line retailers...YOUR/OUR representatives were lobbied hard to help level the playing field between Brick N Mortar and On-Line/Out Of State retailers

While I made nearly 2 decades of great-- on line --or mail order purchases, tax free...I fundamentally knew I was screwing over the local HOBBY SHOP...and now they are gone..closed, shut, not here when I need something RIGHT NOW...

Frugal, is good
Best bang for the buck, is good

BUT sometime we cheap arsed hobbiests do not appreciate the value of a home town Brick N Mortar store...

I get why the tax thing happened.  if they don't get this money through sales tax, income tax is going to go up, pay it on the front end or the back end, it's up to you.

HOWEVER...

I don't shop at my local hobby shop because they suck.  I go there for CA, and that's about it.  They used to be pretty cool, now they are just about the foamies, FPV's, and RC cars.  When looking for something, "well, we can order it for you" is the answer.  Well, yeah, I can order it as well, and not have to make a special trip out to pick it up!  And it's not like I'm looking for exotic materials.  Just some brass tubing or X-acto blades or nice brushes....

My views on local hobby shops are an entirely different topic, however.

[Terrence Durrill]

As of Jan 1st E-Bay will charge you tax on any E-Bay purchase     Just  appeared on my payment for  a  engine purchase  They just cannot get enough  $$ EVER !!
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[Steve Helmick]

Today is another horrible day in Washington State. A bit cold, mostly clear, sunny and dry. Stay the he!! away from here!    Steve

[FLOYD CARTER]

Consider the options.  Earthquakes in CA, Tornados in the midwest.  Hurricanes and floods in the southeast.  Piles of snow in the northeast.  Bugs and alligators in FL.

Oregon and WA are often cold, but it's a quiet type of cold.  Nothing big happens here.  Ho, hum.

[Jim Carter]

I don't shop at my local hobby shop because they suck.  I go there for CA, and that's about it.  They used to be pretty cool, now they are just about the foamies, FPV's, and RC cars.  When looking for something, "well, we can order it for you" is the answer.  Well, yeah, I can order it as well, and not have to make a special trip out to pick it up!  And it's not like I'm looking for exotic materials.  Just some brass tubing or X-acto blades or nice brushes....

My views on local hobby shops are an entirely different topic, however.

L.O.L.!!  I understand where you're coming from  !  I "sucked" too .... for 15 years  !!  I used to own and operate the local hobby shop here and your complaint matches that of many of the "club members" herein town.   They wanted their "bits and pieces" or whatever they wanted "cheap", now, and continuously in stock ....!  To do this meant me ordering and paying for (in cash) and on-shelf stocking of at least $60,000 -$70,000 worth of product, the profit from which I had to pay rent, utilities, insurance, taxes, help, healthcare, community and club donations and be open for 8-10 hours per day, etcetera just so they, the members/modelers/hobbyists could buy a $2 prop, $3.50 Xacto blades and $1.75 brass rod minus their 10% club discount then beat my ears off telling me how high my prices were compared to "X" or "Z"'s shop or some sale on-line!!!  I Never, Ever got sales of $100 or more per hour when the average cost just to open the doors per hour was around $100 per hour every day.   Yep, I was a real "sucker"!!      Now I'm just like you .... complaining about the lack of local hobby shops and their lack of stocking what I want when I want it!!   

[Tom Vieira]

I would have zero issue paying extra to "have it now", I love supporting small businesses, and try to at every turn.  I can completely understand not stocking "strange" parts, say crank bearings for a motor sold in the store.  however, not having fuel in the store for that motor, or at least something "close enough" that can be doctored, well, that's like a hardware store that doesn't sell nails!  Though, my LHS no longer even sells any nitro motors, save a couple for RC cars...

[john e. holliday]

I try to support the one shop we have here in my area.  I can see the politicians wanting more taxes.  I don't set op shop at a local swap meet anymore after the last time I sold/traded there I was told I had to pay taxes on every thing I sold/traded.   The club charged for the use of table space.  Now I am charged to attend a swap meet which I am glad to pay to help the clubs.   It also gives me a chance to see people I don't often see as I don't get notices of events in the Kansas City and surrounding areas.

[FLOYD CARTER]

Oregon has no sales tax.  The voters have rejected every attempt to impose sales taxes.

If we had a sales tax, maybe our schools wouldn't be so awful.  Our kids go through 12 years and come out still unable to cope in the modern workplace.  (the only successful students are the ones who study on their own--(off campus).

[Ken Culbertson]

Now I'm just like you .... complaining about the lack of local hobby shops and their lack of stocking what I want when I want it!!   

I am going to go with you 1/2 way on this one.  I thoroughly understand the big ticket items but not the supplies, especially if you once stocked them.  I used to buy everything I could from our LHS because they always kept a small but sufficient stock of the things we regularly use and always replenished it with their regular orders from their supplier.  They made their break-even from cars and RC ARF's.  We (not just CL builders) were pure profit.  They always had props, fuel, dope Monokote and balsa and all the fittings.  Everybody got their stuff there.  Going to "Mike's" was like being 12 years old again.

When they were forced to close for a highway expansion, they were screwed by the State and couldn't afford to reopen.  None of the other LHS's in the area saw the opportunity and one by one they are going out of business.

The fault is not with the builders, it is not with the LHS it is not with the suppliers, it is with all three.  They don't have it because we don't buy it and we don't buy it because they don't have it and the suppliers won't ship the small quantities we need to break that cycle.  Then the suppliers stop stocking it and the cycle moves up one level.  Somewhere around 1980 computers became common enough that buyers started ordering based on sales rather than on demand and here we are.

Ken

[Ken Culbertson]

Oregon has no sales tax.  The voters have rejected every attempt to impose sales taxes.

If we had a sales tax, maybe our schools wouldn't be so awful.  Our kids go through 12 years and come out still unable to cope in the modern workplace.  (the only successful students are the ones who study on their own--(off campus).

We have a healthy sales tax in Texas and our schools suck too.  It is not how much money they have, it is who is running them.

Ken

[Andre Ming]

Today is another horrible day in Washington State. A bit cold, mostly clear, sunny and dry. Stay the he!! away from here!    Steve

Relax, no way in Hades I'd want to live up there. I suspect I'm not alone in that either. You all can have that place all to yourselves.

Promise, though, once the suck factor gets to be too much, just don't move out my way and try to turn our region into the stink hole that 'ya left.

 

Andre

[Ken Culbertson]

Relax, no way in Hades I'd want to live up there. I suspect I'm not alone in that either. You all can have that place all to yourselves.

Promise, though, once the suck factor gets to be too much, just don't move out my way and try to turn our region into the stink hole that 'ya left.

 

Andre

I don't think many of the folks on this forum would do that.  Just what makes the most beautiful parts of the country attract so many progressives that they drive the normal people out anyway?

They are like locusts.  We lost 2 Texas seats, one was my district, to them because of high-tech firms relocating to get out of taxafornia.  They come here and vote for the exact same thing that drove them out.  Insane.

Ken

[Dennis Leonhardi]

The Demise of the Local Hobby Shop: I don't think blame is as appropriate in describing the loss of local hobby shops as is the recognition of change (which some would call progress).

 Many years ago, my home town adopted a new charter and dropped several old laws - the one requiring drivers to clean up the droppings of their horses on city streets comes to mind as an example.  Times change; that issue seemed to have been long forgotten.

I was fortunate as a teen to have a LHS that we persuaded to sponsor an active CL club.  I could buy Fox, K&B, McCoy and OK Cub engines in the shop, which usually stocked even commonly used replacement parts.  Berkeley, Consolidated, Enterprise, Kenhi, Midwest, Scientific kits were displayed on the shelves.  Talk about a modeler's heaven!

Have you seen the brushless electric motors available now?  Forget about the different brands, just consider the range offered by a single brand!  And there must be a jillion Electronic Speed Control variations ...

Add to this our "I want it NOW" mentality, and "I want it CHEAP", and the LHS can't possibly meet our "needs".

It's a sign of the Times.



Dennis

[john e. holliday]

Any body that is trying to make a living with a hobby shop must be like when some one told me about getting into stock car racing.  You must have a million dollars just to get started and another million to keep going.   I miss Mike's Hobby Shop as it was a stop for me when ever I hit the Dallas/Fort Worth area.   As far as taxes for schools forget it.  I've heard and seen where some of the little tax dollar goes for the school.   Here where I live the casino's got a toe hole with the idea of some of the profits going to schools and street repairs/improvement.   One area where a casino is located is still waiting on several streets to be paved and school improvements.   My thought is some politician is putting a big portion into his pockets.  Almost for got the casinos where supposed to help the police department.