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Title: VSC27
Post by: Randy Cuberly on March 13, 2015, 03:25:06 PM: VSC27 officially starts Tuesday March 17 but several folks have arrived here in Tucson already. Many more are expected tomorrow through Sunday 15 March. Most fliers tend to come early to enjoy the Tucson weather and get in lots of practice flights.
Quite a few flights put up at the field today. Gerry Phelps (who's been here for several weeks), Jim Lee, Pete Peterson, and Gordon Delaney were most notable today. Of course the local crew was pretty much out in force also.
Looks like it should be a good year!

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Randy Powell on March 13, 2015, 03:37:11 PM: Man, I wish I was coming this year. Oh well, I will be there next year.
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Post by: john e. holliday on March 16, 2015, 12:22:20 PM: Well, tell everybody the old DOC says hi and to have lots of fun. Also give all the ladies a hug from the old DOC.
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: wwwarbird on March 16, 2015, 05:34:31 PM: Hopefully we'll be seeing lots of pics here soon! #^
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Steve Fitton on March 16, 2015, 05:49:38 PM: How is the wind?
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Post by: Tom Niebuhr on March 16, 2015, 05:52:21 PM: Having serious withdrawals.. Wish I could be there. Pictures PLEASE
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: frank williams on March 16, 2015, 06:48:44 PM: We had conflicts this year and wern't able to make the trip. Maybe next year.
Doc, I had a King Sweep ready to go. I know you built one a couple of years ago. Probably the only two every built.
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Randy Cuberly on March 16, 2015, 06:53:07 PM: Quote from: Steve Fitton on March 16, 2015, 05:49:38 PM
How is the wind?

Thwind was tough over the weekend but not too bad this morning. Came up a bit around 10:00 AM but then dropped to practically nothing around noon. Should be good tomorrow (Old Time Begins), but admittedly it has been a little erratic this year here in Tucson.

We had a couple of weeks of really nice weather until this past weekend...Forcast is up and down.

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: MarcusCordeiro on March 16, 2015, 07:19:24 PM: That is one event on my list.... It seems so much fun...

Marcus
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Jim Kraft on March 16, 2015, 07:45:43 PM: My heart is in Tucson, but me and my planes are still in Kansas. Maybe next year. Wishing great flights for everybody and great weather, but most of all have a wonderfull time.
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Mike Keville on March 16, 2015, 07:57:52 PM: What Randy C. said about the weekend winds. They were brutal, so I didn't bother going to the field. Some improvement today, although TV reporters are predicting possible rain by mid-week. So far, at least, it's not as bad as 1998 when we were completely frozen/rained/blown-out by "El Nino". We're hoping for the best.
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: john e. holliday on March 17, 2015, 01:01:25 PM: Quote from: frank williams on March 16, 2015, 06:48:44 PM
We had conflicts this year and wern't able to make the trip. Maybe next year.
Doc, I had a King Sweep ready to go. I know you built one a couple of years ago. Probably the only two every built.

That looks a lot better than mine. Now I some power in the nose and the warps removed, have completed several patterns with it. Need to get it out more as the take off and landing are what I like about it, besides being a strange looking plane. Now go break a prop and win Classic with it. #^ #^
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Randy Powell on March 17, 2015, 02:58:42 PM: Yea, competition started today. Wish I was there. Hope to see a bunch of pics here. Shame, too. I had my classic entry ready to go.
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Randy Cuberly on March 17, 2015, 10:27:26 PM: The weather was very cooperative today. Very good flying conditions. Some excellent flights put up in Old Time.

Unfortunately as the ED for Ignition I didn't get to see very many flights except those in the Ignition Event. Ignition is always a little different because it seems that about 60% of the battle there is simply getting a complete flight.

First flights today were accomplished by Frank Mcmillan, always a tough competetor in all events with a very beautiful "Madman", and Dale Gleason also made a great flight.
To show how tough this event really is all competitors that got flights today had at least one "attempt" before getting an official.
The test continues tomorrow for everybody's second official.

I'll try to get some photo's tomorrow.

Weather is predicted to be not so good tomorrow.

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: De Hill on March 18, 2015, 05:19:56 PM: I just got off the phone with Joe Gilbert, one of our Tulsa Gluedobbers. He won glow old time stunt and the Ringmaster event today
using a Brodak .25 powered Ringmaster in both events. The Ringmaster weighed 23 ounces.

Way to go, Joe!

I think he said the Frank McMillan won ignition old time stunt, and Dale Gleason was second, and Jim Lee was third.
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Jim Kraft on March 18, 2015, 07:19:11 PM: Thanks for the info Randy and De. WooHoo! Way to go Joe! Do it again tomorrow. All three of those guys in ignition are top competitors. Hope the weather holds. Keep the info coming.
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: wwwarbird on March 18, 2015, 07:52:29 PM: Thanks for the updates guys. Is Joe G. planning to fly Classic? If so, what plane?
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Randy Cuberly on March 18, 2015, 10:51:13 PM: Quote from: wwwarbird on March 18, 2015, 07:52:29 PM
Thanks for the updates guys. Is Joe G. planning to fly Classic? If so, what plane?

Yes, Joe is entered in Classic flying his Gypsy, a gorgeous airplane by the way...some very strong competition there!

Sorry about not having any pictures to post...camera battery went dead. Charging it tonight.

It rained late this evening and has become colder...but remember here in Tucson 55 is considered COLD. The field will be very wet tomorrow. Won't make much difference for the paved circles but the grass (practice circles) will be soggy!

Still overcast tonight could rain a little tomorrow.

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: bob whitney on March 19, 2015, 08:21:35 AM: How about some O/T complete results
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Post by: Scott Richlen on March 19, 2015, 10:11:03 AM: Pictures! Pictures! Pictures!
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Brett Buck on March 19, 2015, 11:08:47 AM: Quote from: De Hill on March 18, 2015, 05:19:56 PM
I just got off the phone with Joe Gilbert, one of our Tulsa Gluedobbers. He won glow old time stunt and the Ringmaster event today
using a Brodak .25 powered Ringmaster in both events. The Ringmaster weighed 23 ounces.

Way to go, Joe!

I met Joe and his wife for the first time at the NATs last year, and they couldn't be more pleasant. Joe is a tough competitor, so he may not be done winning things this week.

Brett
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on March 19, 2015, 08:00:07 PM: We are starved for pictures
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: wwwarbird on March 19, 2015, 08:10:58 PM: Quote from: Tom Niebuhr on March 19, 2015, 08:00:07 PM
We are starved for pictures

Ditto. ???
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Randy Cuberly on March 19, 2015, 09:48:17 PM: Quote from: wwwarbird on March 19, 2015, 08:10:58 PM
Ditto. ???

Sorry Guys...My camera took a dump today. I'm trying to find one to borrow...I'm working on mine, may be able to get it working for tomorrow. If not I'll try to get someone else to post some pictures.

Some very good flights put up today. On top right no is Jim Hoffman and his USA 1 with a 594...Really great flight...I'm sure some folks will try harder tomorrow. Joe Gilbert put up a nice flight also with his Gypsy but not quite as high as Jims. Two more days for three flights total and Best of Two for score!

John Callentine's Sea Fury is incredible to watch in the air as is Frank Mcmillan' Martin Baker. A liberal sprinkling of new planes this year also.

44 entries (I think) in Classic this year.

The Japanese contingent consisting of Kaz Minato, Marsaru Hiki, and a new gentleman whose name escapes me at the moment (I'll post it tomorrow...Apologies for my memory) all had absolutely gorgeous new airplanes and flew very well of course.

It was very wet this morning but dried out early and warmed up to typical Tucson Temperatures in the 70's by 10:00 AM winds were light to non-existent. It rained very hard late this afternoon so it will be wet again tomorrow but no rainfall expected.

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Joe Bowman on March 19, 2015, 10:08:05 PM: Thanks Randy. Wish I was there. Maybe nexxt year.
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Scott Richlen on March 20, 2015, 05:54:05 AM: This is sort of cruel fun - tell us how beautiful the planes are but unable to post pictures. That'll learn us for not attending (course, its a little far from Virginia!)
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Jim Kraft on March 20, 2015, 06:30:49 AM: Thanks for the update Randy.
Title: Re: VSC27 - Pictures
Post by: BillLee on March 20, 2015, 06:44:37 AM: Photos on my FB page. Won't post them here since Sparky has the file size set too low for decent picture quality.

Edit to add a link to FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1418481718462625&id=100009024312179
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1416714081972722&set=a.1384411021869695.1073741827.100009024312179&type=1

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1416713368639460&id=100009024312179

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1416098515367612&id=100009024312179
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1416097702034360&set=a.1384411021869695.1073741827.100009024312179&type=1

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1412247222419408&id=100009024312179
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1416097425367721&id=100009024312179

(Not sure how to make this link work. You may have to be logged in to FB first. New toy, still learning.)
Title: Re: VSC27 - Pictures
Post by: RC Storick on March 20, 2015, 08:04:01 AM: Quote from: BillLee on March 20, 2015, 06:44:37 AM
Photos on my FB page. Won't post them here since Sparky has the file size set too low for decent picture quality.

And Stuka is half of that so it must not be too low.
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: tom brightbill on March 20, 2015, 12:36:04 PM: Kaz has pictures on his site. Thanks Kaz!

http://kazminato.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2015/03/vsc2015--6.html
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: RC Storick on March 20, 2015, 01:42:19 PM: From the kaz page

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Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: john e. holliday on March 20, 2015, 03:49:59 PM: Bill, face book pics came great on the links. Tried Kaz's and this laptop couldn't find the pages. Great pics Sparky posted and I know most of the guys.
Title: Re: VSC27
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Roy deCamera. (His HANDLE has a nicer finish than most models!)
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Keith Trostle and Masaru Hiki
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Charlie Reeves and his "Lark"
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Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Robertc on March 20, 2015, 04:02:41 PM: Have a couple more to add;
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Post by: wwwarbird on March 20, 2015, 05:10:03 PM: Great pics, THANKS! Let's keep'em coming. ;D
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Post by: Tom Niebuhr on March 20, 2015, 07:02:29 PM: Thanks guys
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Mike Keville on March 20, 2015, 07:50:01 PM: It's sure been great to see everyone again this week, although I haven't been out there every day. Sure never thought the VSC would last THIS long, but am glad it has. Jim Hoffman and his crew are doing a fine job.

Would love to tell you who's leading in Classic, but that might be seen by the judges - which is verboten. At any rate, it'll all be over tomorrow: best two-of-three.....and there's a large crowd bunched-up right behind the leader, so it's still anyone's game. Should be a real shootout if the weather holds. (Today's weather was beautiful.)
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Jim Kraft on March 20, 2015, 08:14:41 PM: Does anybody have the results of Old Time and Ignition?
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: John Cralley on March 20, 2015, 09:04:56 PM: Joe Gilbert won Old Time with his 23 Oz S-1 Ringmaster!
Way to go Joe!
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Shawn Lenci on March 21, 2015, 10:59:10 AM: Who is the owner of the Hallmark? I really like that airplane! :)

Shawn
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: tom brightbill on March 21, 2015, 11:41:31 AM: Shawn, It looks like Masaru Hiki fueling it.
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: De Hill on March 21, 2015, 01:11:41 PM: I just heard from a friend that Joe Gilbert placed fourth in classic with his Gipsy.
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: john e. holliday on March 21, 2015, 01:59:08 PM: That is great for Joe as I know he has worked hard to get where he is at. He also listens and has the talent to back it up. H^^
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Gene Martine on March 21, 2015, 03:32:16 PM: Quote from: BillLee on March 20, 2015, 03:51:29 PM
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Charlie Reeves and his "Lark"
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Thanks Bill, great pictures
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Post by: Elwyn Aud on March 21, 2015, 03:34:52 PM: Thanks for all the pics!
Title: Re: VSC27 - Pictures
Post by: BillLee on March 21, 2015, 03:41:08 PM: Quote from: Robert Storick on March 20, 2015, 08:04:01 AM
And Stuka is half of that so it must not be too low.
Who said anything about Stuka?
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Post by: tom brightbill on March 21, 2015, 06:43:54 PM: Congratulations Kaz!!!!!
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Post by: Randy Cuberly on March 21, 2015, 06:58:44 PM: First place in Classic Stunt was won by an incredibly consistent Kaz Minato with scores of 602.5, 602.0, and 612. All flown in front of three different sets of judges.

First place in Super Seventies was won by Masaru Hiki with very consistent results and the hardest cleanes corners I have ever witnessed.
Hiki San was flying a Halmark by Gene Shaeffer. Mr Shaeffer was known for very hard clean corners flying this airplane but what I saw was very reminiscent of those days gone by.

My hat is off to both of these extremely nice Gentlemen for their stellar performances.

My apologies for not being able to provide photos this year and my thanks to Bill Lee for picking up the slack with his facebook postings.

I was lucky to be chosen to fly the warmup flights for the Judges all three days and had great fun doing it. First time I've ever tried to deliberately make errors in maneuvers and some were whoppers on the first two days. Calmed it down today and mostly just flew my normal pattern which typically has enough errors... y1 LL~ LL~

Mr. Jim Hoffman ran a very efficient and clean contest and deserves a great "Thank You" from all involved. This is one very organized Gentleman!

Also worthy of note is the performance by our very own Lou Wolgast for finishing a very creditable Eithth place in Classic Stunt with His "Humongous" an Old Time stunt airplane designed in 1948 by Ted Snow. He also garnered 19 appearence points for this beautiful rendition. This was in very tough competition and his performance was incredible.

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Dave Sabon on March 21, 2015, 07:08:55 PM: Could someone post all the participants for this years VSC?
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Post by: John Sunderland on March 21, 2015, 07:49:38 PM: It would seem some questionable taste pictures were removed...my previous post is deleted.
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Randy Cuberly on March 21, 2015, 10:01:29 PM: Quote from: Dave Sabon on March 21, 2015, 07:08:55 PM
Could someone post all the participants for this years VSC?

Hi Dave,
Hey we all miss you here in Tucson. Next year you'll have to come and see the list first hand... y1 y1 <= #^

Ted Kraver took some pictures of the score sheet at my request and has promised to post them here. However the Banquet is taking place as we speak so I would guess that the pictures will be posted tomorrow.

C'mon over and fly with us sometime!!

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Scott Richlen on March 22, 2015, 05:42:17 AM: Thanks for posting the pictures. They are really beautiful airplanes!

Who is that with the Formula S? He did a terrific job! What engine?

Scott
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: RC Storick on March 22, 2015, 06:47:46 AM: Quote from: Scott Richlen on March 22, 2015, 05:42:17 AM
Thanks for posting the pictures. They are really beautiful airplanes!

Who is that with the Formula S? He did a terrific job! What engine?

Scott

That's Chris McMillin
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Robertc on March 22, 2015, 10:57:15 AM: Chris was flying the Formula S, but it's Bob Whitely's plane and has a Double Star 54 in it.
Title: Re: VSC27 - Pictures
Post by: Brett Buck on March 22, 2015, 11:32:46 AM: Quote from: BillLee on March 20, 2015, 06:44:37 AM
Photos on my FB page. Won't post them here since Sparky has the file size set too low for decent picture quality.

? Yes, you can't post 50 meg TIFFs or 28 meg RAW directly from the camera, but the size limits are plenty good enough for posting on-line, and I am a real stickler. Bob is paying for the bandwidth and storage.

If you are having an issue with quality, I would suggest that the issue is with your resizing technique or sequence, not the size limit itself. My sequence of operations is:

reduce resolultion to 72 dpi (from 300)
size picture to ~14" in the longest dimension (retain aspect ratio) It's now 1008x(something less) pixels and about 2.9 meg uncompressed.
save as JPG with target size set to 100K and "reduce quality to achieve target file size" with "file size" set to 100K. With "100%" jpg quality the file size will *already* be something like 40-150K, so almost no compression will be needed.

Post
Title: Re: VSC27 - Pictures
Post by: Tim Wescott on March 22, 2015, 12:02:59 PM: Quote from: Brett Buck on March 22, 2015, 11:32:46 AM
My sequence of operations is:

That means almost nothing without knowing what software you're using.

The important parameters with jpg format is the size of the final image in pixels, and the compression level. How you arrive at that depends on your tool. Gimp is pretty direct about that, so you do your work in the end units. In Gimp I crop the photo, then resize everything to 640 x 480 unless I think the viewer is really going to care about getting a pretty picture in which case I size it to 800 x 600. Then I save it at 66% "quality", because that seems to work well.

If I were taking pictures strictly for eye candy effect, I might go larger yet, and higher quality (but not 100%. 100% quality in jpg means no compression at all, which in turn means that you may as well save it as a bitmap. Do that and you'll have overly large files).
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Post by: Andrew Hathaway on March 22, 2015, 12:08:46 PM: There are several online photo hosts that automatically resize and compress photos. Photobucket for example does all the work for you when you upload your image, and generates code to link or embed the photo on a forum. There's really no reason to worry about forum attachment limits when there are much easier alternatives.
Title: Re: VSC27 - Pictures
Post by: Brett Buck on March 22, 2015, 12:53:39 PM: Quote from: Tim Wescott on March 22, 2015, 12:02:59 PM
That means almost nothing without knowing what software you're using.

Incorrect. Any algorithm where you compress it first, for example, will have the same very negative effect, and in particular, if that is all you do, it indeed does look like 100K is far too small. Rescaling from 300 DPI to 72 DPI entails very little loss beyond the obvious, then compressing it with JPG has minimal effect.

The sequence above works in Photoshop, GraphicConverter, and GIMP (which is probably what Bill is using). It's essentially the same math underneath.

Brett
Title: Re: VSC27 - Pictures
Post by: Randy Cuberly on March 22, 2015, 12:58:36 PM: Quote from: Brett Buck on March 22, 2015, 12:53:39 PM
Incorrect. Any algorithm where you compress it first, for example, will have the same very negative effect, and in particular, if that is all you do, it indeed does look like 100K is far too small. Rescaling from 300 DPI to 72 DPI entails very little loss beyond the obvious, then compressing it with JPG has minimal effect.

The sequence above works in Photoshop, GraphicConverter, and GIMP (which is probably what Bill is using). It's essentially the same math underneath.

Brett

Yes, even my cheapie little program called Photo Expressions ($15) works the same way!

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Jim Hoffman on March 22, 2015, 01:50:46 PM: Here are the scoreboard shots for OTS, Ignition, and Ringmaster

Cheers, Jim Hoffman
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Jim Hoffman on March 22, 2015, 01:52:37 PM: Here are the scoreboards shots for Classic and Super 70’s

Note that these two events are run concurrently and the contestants are comingled on the three circle.
There is a column labels S70 to identify those folks and their final results.

Cheers, Jim Hoffman
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: BillLee on March 22, 2015, 03:29:42 PM: Quote from: Andrew Hathaway on March 22, 2015, 12:08:46 PM
There are several online photo hosts that automatically resize and compress photos. Photobucket for example does all the work for you when you upload your image, and generates code to link or embed the photo on a forum. There's really no reason to worry about forum attachment limits when there are much easier alternatives.

I am amused by all of the "advice" that has been offered when this is the correct answer. Any properly written web software would handle this issue automatically.

(Been there, done that!)
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Bob Reeves on March 22, 2015, 04:25:07 PM: Quote from: BillLee on March 22, 2015, 03:29:42 PM
I am amused by all of the "advice" that has been offered when this is the correct answer. Any properly written web software would handle this issue automatically.

(Been there, done that!)
Ya but... then you have to put up with all the advertising and slow loading if you are not on a fast connection. I use an old version of a program called ThumbsPlus. It creates thumbnails of all the images in a folder. You click on the thumbnail and it brings it up in a large window, crop, save, upload and done.
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: John Sunderland on March 22, 2015, 05:11:47 PM: I had a wonderful time at this years VSC....hope everyone enjoyed as much as I did. A great big thanks from me to CD Jim Hoffman, Assistant CD Leroy Black, judges, tabulators, pit bosses and score runners and the Cholla Chopper MAC. H^^
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Randy Cuberly on March 22, 2015, 05:16:12 PM: Quote from: Jim Hoffman on March 22, 2015, 01:50:46 PM
Here are the scoreboard shots for OTS, Ignition, and Ringmaster

Cheers, Jim Hoffman

Hi Jim,
Thanks for posting the scoreboard photos. Did you stand on your head to take the photos? LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~

Sorry! I just couldn't resist!!! H^^

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Jim Kraft on March 22, 2015, 07:06:01 PM: I was beginning to think I was the only one. LOL. I have this little bitty laptop that I can turn upside down and read OK. Thanks to everyone that posted pictures and results. Makes it a little less traumatic for those of us who could not make it this year. Congratulations to all the winners, but remember, if you were there you are a winner. Everybody have a safe trip home.
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Trostle on March 22, 2015, 07:16:48 PM: Quote from: BillLee on March 22, 2015, 03:29:42 PM
I am amused by all of the "advice" that has been offered when this is the correct answer. Any properly written web software would handle this issue automatically.

(Been there, done that!)

It is also amusing that there are those who will make an issue of an item that is not even the subject of the thread.

Keith
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Bill Calandrella on March 23, 2015, 06:53:45 AM: Keith,

I agree! We just finished one very fine stunt contest and we spend out time discussing the problems with our camera or software...

How about a few pictures from the beauty contest (appearance judging), someone?

Although I was not a participant, I would like to thank all of the people who were here in Tucson for a great five days. It was great to meet many of you and a pleasure to talk with you, watch you fly and to just enjoy the beautiful weather.

Bill
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Chris McMillin on March 23, 2015, 03:17:48 PM: Quote from: Robertc on March 22, 2015, 10:57:15 AM
Chris was flying the Formula S, but it's Bob Whitely's plane and has a Double Star 54 in it.

Hi guys,
Bob was nice enough to let me fly his model while he was recovering from back surgery. The model started out with a 54 but it has a DS60 now. Ran nice once I got the fuel and needle just right, about 13% nitro and a deep four cycle at 85 degrees was the best flight. Big prop, but turns super easily, only pilot problems kept it from placing higher. Bob made me give it back on Saturday night...
Chris...
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: PJ Rowland on March 23, 2015, 07:43:51 PM: Chris... a .60 in a classic? Absurd..
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Mike Keville on March 23, 2015, 08:07:20 PM: Works rather well, doesn't it? <chuckle>...

You have GOT to attend one of these things soon.
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: PJ Rowland on March 23, 2015, 10:23:38 PM: Its on my list...

Trust me mike..
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Randy Cuberly on March 23, 2015, 10:49:08 PM: Quote from: PJ Rowland on March 23, 2015, 07:43:51 PM
Chris... a .60 in a classic? Absurd..

Well, if you really want absurd it's a 8 1/2 oz unobtanium .60 from the late Roy Trantham.

Incidentally, I've flown that airplane and believe it to be the best flying classic airplane anywhere. I've tried to steal it from Bob several times but he always catches me!

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: bob whitney on March 24, 2015, 08:20:04 AM: watching Bob fly that aplane is what made mr build my Formula -S
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: john e. holliday on March 24, 2015, 01:15:27 PM: Like Jim K., I'm using the lap top so I can turn it over. But, also I took printing my freshman year and learned to read upside down. Thanks to all the guys that make VSC happen was in Texas on family vacation and didn't get much time to myself. Anyway I look forward to a report in Stunt News.
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Trostle on March 24, 2015, 02:23:08 PM: One notable item from this year's VSC. Over the years, I have been witness to some incredibly gifted fliers performing some remarkable flights. Among the best I have ever seen include Bart Klapinski when he won the 67 Nats. Just a good, if not better was the show that Les McDoanald gave when he was on top of his form winning three World Championships and our Nats. Then, in this last year was the performance of Igor Burger when he won at the 2014 World CL Championships and in my humble opinion the flights by Orestes Hernandez at the World Championships as well as our Team Trials last Fall were as good as Igor's.

Now forward to this 2015 VSC and Masaru Hiki with his Halmark. This was an excursion in how 45^o patterns are to be flown with consistent 5 foot bottoms and consistent 45^o sizes, good tight and clean corners, consistent intersections, and an appropriately sized four leaf clover. I was witness (as a judge) to only one of his flights, his last on the final day, but that was one of the finest flights I have ever seen.

Kaz Minato also flew very well at this VSC. His win in Classic was well deserved. These two fliers are well coached and well practiced.

Keith
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: bill rutherford on March 24, 2015, 02:49:59 PM: So who won the other VSC awards? Ya know like best I beam , sportsmanship, Best airplane, packaderm and so on.????
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on March 24, 2015, 03:03:31 PM: Here are the results rotated so that Shug will not be the only one to read them.

A sincere thanks to Jim Hoffman for publishing this.
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on March 24, 2015, 03:05:25 PM: Rotation completed
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Chris McMillin on March 24, 2015, 06:13:35 PM: Quote from: PJ Rowland on March 23, 2015, 07:43:51 PM
Chris... a .60 in a classic? Absurd..

Well, of course...
Even though I have a Hot Zoot L&J Fox in my Gieseke Nobler, I always liked your ... absurdity.
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: PJ Rowland on March 24, 2015, 07:58:31 PM: Thanks Chris. . And well done.
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Jim Hoffman on March 24, 2015, 09:08:09 PM: Here are the winners of the various Special Awards. - it's right side up on my screen

Jim Hoffman
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on March 25, 2015, 03:05:27 PM: Thanks Jim,

I see that you are now in elite company with the Pachyderm Award. Welcome to that distinguished club. How did you do it?

Did you get the pictures of the D'Ottavio Jet Falcon that I sent to you?
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Garf on March 26, 2015, 03:15:17 PM: How about a pic of the E-Z Duzz- It?
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Jim Hoffman on March 27, 2015, 09:30:57 AM: E-Z-Duzzit by Ian Russel of London England
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: John Sunderland on March 28, 2015, 03:19:54 AM: I like it too. I would pick some clever paint scheme for it.....I felt bad that I did't give it more than a second glance! The numbers are reasonable and an industrious builder could have one quick.

Several "lean in the aft section designs" did very well at the contest. I thought Robert's Heinkel 100 of Jack Sheeks design performed well also. Kind of one.... of those that got missed if you asked me.

The Hallmark...good lord!
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: John Kelly on March 28, 2015, 02:47:36 PM: ...Always liked this Earl Cayton design myself
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Trostle on March 28, 2015, 03:10:37 PM: I am pretty sure the OTS Easy that Ian Russel had at this VSC was the one designed by Frank Ehling which has a wide built up profile type fuselage, no flaps. The Ehling design could be built in about seven different sizes. It was published in Air Trails in 1950 and again in the 51 Air Trails Annual.

The Earl Cayton Easy Does It with the flaps was published in Flying Models, Jan 57.

Keith
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: John Kelly on March 28, 2015, 03:34:54 PM: ...Right Keith, The EASY, by Frank Ehling, (article by Dick Sarpolus) was also in the September 2008 MODEL AVIATION (PLAN 1020). Cheers, John
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Dennis Toth on March 28, 2015, 05:56:25 PM: John,
Did they put the bellcrank/controls in the wing in the ship that Dick published?

Keith - would that be allowed with our current OTS rules?

Best, DennisT
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: John Kelly on March 28, 2015, 06:48:17 PM: ...Hey Dennis, I modified my last post (again) with a different crop on the picture. Dick mentions the original (bellcrank on bottom of fuse and guide under inboard wing tip) and what he did (holes in the ribs and internal modern routing). TWISTER kit is still on a back burner. Might have to go out and get a few new stoves to have enough back burners to put all the kits I'm gonna build on. I like your YAK-YAK. Cheers, John
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Trostle on March 28, 2015, 06:54:01 PM: Quote from: Dennis Toth on March 28, 2015, 05:56:25 PM
John,
Did they put the bellcrank/controls in the wing in the ship that Dick published?

Keith - would that be allowed with our current OTS rules?

Best, DennisT

Good question.

The original plans/article by Fran Ehling (from 1950/51) showed the bellcrank mounted externally on the bottom of the fuselage.

The Sarpolus article (2008) shows the bellcrank mounted in the wing.

The PAMPA rules for OTS state:

"4.3 Allowable modifications.
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4.3.5 Control Ratios and control mechanism location."

So, if I read the PAMPA rules correctly, the bellcrank can be moved and be allowed by the rules.

I did not look very closely at Ian Russel's Easy, but I am fairly certain that the bellcrank was in the wing. Ian sometimes visits Stunt Hangar. Hopefully, he will enlighten us.

Keith
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Dan McEntee on March 28, 2015, 07:32:30 PM: The original Easy article starts out with Ehling describing a need to quickly build 29 airplanes for Christmas gifts! That is the primary reason he put the controls on the bottom of the fuselage and outside the wing. Mounting the bell crank in the center of the wing was already a common practice, and I'm sure lots of people built this model in a conventional manor. Jim Thomerson built several of these in different sizes, and so did Rusty Brown. I don't remember any of theirs with controls on the bottom of the fuselage. Changing the bell crank mount doesn't affect any of the moments or overall outline and shape of the airplane. Of more interest than the bell crank mount is the way the wing and fuselage is built. The wing is partially built with no center section. The wing is built into the crutch style fuselage and locked in with a balsa block that acts as the center section of the wing. The original article clearly states that he thickness of the airfoil and the thickness of the block is determined by the width of the engine between the mounts, which locates the top and bottom spares that make up the fuselage crutch. That means their is no established, specific airfoil shape. It's an interesting airplane and both articles, the Air Trails and Model Aviation version, tell you all you really need to build one in any of several sizes. The served Jim and Rusty well!
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Garf on March 29, 2015, 01:58:02 PM: I don't suppose that there are plans out there somewhere?
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: John Kelly on March 29, 2015, 02:55:34 PM: ...Hey Garf, Did you try MODEL AVIATION PLAN 1020? (September 2008 iisue) Cheers, John
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: John Sunderland on March 29, 2015, 08:34:04 PM: Someone asked about the beauty pageant....I took a complete set of pics of everything and will post them as I find time.
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: wwwarbird on March 29, 2015, 08:47:19 PM: Quote from: John Sunderland on March 29, 2015, 08:34:04 PM
Someone asked about the beauty pageant....I took a complete set of pics of everything and will post them as I find time.

Anxious to see'em John! #^
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Ted Fancher on April 03, 2015, 11:30:59 PM: Quote from: John Cralley on March 20, 2015, 09:04:56 PM
Joe Gilbert won Old Time with his 23 Oz S-1 Ringmaster!
Way to go Joe!

I'd give odds Joe's name will be on the Walker Trophy in the not too distant future. This boy can fly and what a great support team he's got!

Ted
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: rustler on April 15, 2015, 05:27:32 PM: Quote from: Trostle on March 28, 2015, 06:54:01 PM

Good question.

I did not look very closely at Ian Russel's Easy, but I am fairly certain that the bellcrank was in the wing. Ian sometimes visits Stunt Hangar. Hopefully, he will enlighten us.

Keith

Hey! Only just discovered this, we were still in the U.S. when it was written. Yes the pic. of the blue winged model is of an Ehling EASY, and the bellcrank was on the bottom of the fus. as per plan. This was a sad effort, - I kept it light, - too light. New motor, running in v. rich, and the engine/airframe harmonics developed cracks in the fus and wing sheeting! End of my Vintage entry.
Classic E-Z-Duzzit was better, 3rd. and 4th. flights were in the contest. Rather wild and large (and safe) pattern, but I still have a model!

Very carelessly I didn't get a pic. of my own model. Is it just possible anyone took one and can send me?
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: John Sunderland on April 25, 2015, 07:00:49 PM: This series of pictures from appearance judging may take awhile. Bear with me as I have been super busy with work and the entire line-up may come in spurts over the next few days.

Jerry Phelps Patriot. I first met Jerry Phelps in 1966 in Dayton down at the old power plant site on the river. My father was his competitor. Jerry flew a Neptune variant often sported by Milton Boos. Something happened in the reverse and Jerry went straight in! Which left the field open for my father to win his first ever First Place trophy flying his blue Hawker Hunter. Jerry was and is considered deadly behind the handle.

This airplane, his Patriot put him on the USA team in '70 or '71. Jerry is from Toledo Ohio.

In '67, I was all of five years old and all over a triple A event like flies on doo doo. I started launching in '65 at age three. The old Dolphin shook so bad with the K&B in the nose...I held onto the stab....vibrated me so bad I cried and cut loose before the old man had the handle securely in his hands. He saved the airplane with a 27 year old's reflexes. Landed....and he was not happy with his sons first performance at the field. But I did learn and very early on.

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This is Al Rabes design as built by John Callentine. This one I am sure is better than the first two. John is a wood working expert on par with all the best you may know.The Sea Fury series of articles and anything written by Al is key reading for any stunt aficionado. As is anything written by Ted Fancher. If Billy could write as well as he can play guitar and design stunt aircraft, we all would have been experts years ago. You will see no less than three of his designs in this diatribe about all things stunt.
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Speaking of Bill Werwage, this is an exact replica of the original USA1 executed by Jim Hoffman. I have known Jim since the mid '90s, over 20 years now. He and Joe Reinhard flew together in Columbus when Jim attended Ohio State University in the late '70s. We were fast friends and thick as thieves since the day Joe introduced him to us all in about 1995 or so. Incredible engineer with a career spanning 30 years with Honeywell here in Phoenix....jet engines. In 2011 when I first moved to Phoenix II had not even been here a week when my phone rang. The first words out of his mouth were "A little birdie told me you moved to Phoenix, we are flying Sunday, come out and you can fly my Nobler. Four years later he still calls me up or emails...."We will be flying Sunday, your Nobler will be in the car. " I need to get off of my ass and finish something and give Jim his Nobler back. It happens this year. Work will still be there but I will have the time to build. It has been a dozen years since my last Nats appearance. That will be changing. Going to Brodak with pops this year and the Nats next year, God willing.
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This Nobler is a stock TF '59 version I believe. This one belongs to Roger ? I am sorry sir, it was our first meeting and I have CRS. Nice airplane!
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Post by: John Sunderland on April 26, 2015, 06:29:37 AM: This is a 1962 Ares....designed by Bill Werwage in 1959. This is said to be the best version of the lineage. Wesley Dick from Ft. Wayne Indiana campaigns this one and has had several other 1962 Ares in his stable. Dennis has been working with him. If I have to say Dennis last name, some generation of ART from Detroit will slap the @#$% out of me.

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Ed Southwick's Lark as modeled by Charley Reeves of Paducah Ky. Charley flew early version Sharks (Humblers) with Lew McFarland in the development stages of the Shark. Lew lived in Lexington Ky. I was conceived up around Fort Knox....in 1961. Born in '62....a tike at the circles when most of these men were in their heyday as young men. Impressionable minds were impressed!! I was born in Richmond Ky.....as was Brett I believe and I know he got his bachelors there if not more.

At several VSC' events in the past I met with Ed. When I was a young modeler perusing old model mags this airplane was on my favorites list. He was the kindest loving soul I have ever met. Honest to a fault, always a gentleman. When I heard he and his wife died in a head on collision while returning home from VSC I was crushed! Wept openly at their loss.

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Somehow back in '68 Billy went to Texas for the Nats I think and Jerry Worth showed up with this thing called an Apterix....essentially it became a USA1. This version campaigned by a nice gentlemen from Salt Lake named Jim Rhoades. Also one of the nicest men to grace the stunt circles we play upon.
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Oooosa Aaaama....A brass player from Jersey, lived in NYC with the '69 Nats champ Bob Lampione...They had issues living across the hall from each other I have heard. Champion can set us all straight later.... This is a Bill Simons design. Another of his designs will be featured shortly. Keith has the red white blue version of this one in his shop...the second or third I think published around 71 or so. I was on fire for this as a young up and comer....it was slick!

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A Jack Sheeks design from the early '70s this semi scale German design of the Heinkel 100 flies very very well as campaigned by Robert Compton. With an LA 46....this a weapon. Robert executes a solid pattern with no real trimming, no hinge lines taped...I had him send me the PDF to blow it up so I could build one. Jack is in a league of his own. I have sat in his basement, read all of his articles from the first to the last and laughed my ass off in his presence every time I see him. Judged by him. He and my dad flew against each other often in the mid '60s. Indy to Mid Ohio is a stones throw away. Jack stated that the old "Stunt conspiracy" would fly one flight at Anderson and another in Lafayette on the same day...and run back to pick up their winnings at Anderson before strolling back to Indy! Somewhere in Indiana whilst collecting winnings or competing my father says that while consuming a cold frosty beverage Jack was heard to say," Ya know, the problem with beer is, I love the STUFF!" and took both hands to exaggerate...tipped it up in one pull and chugged it like a dying man in the desert led to water! LL~ Jack is the funniest SOB here. His wife is a peach. The man was a motorcycle cop in Indy back in the day.

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Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: Gordan Delaney on April 26, 2015, 11:23:17 AM: Hi John,
The man flying the Apterix is really Jim Rhoades not Jim Young. Jim and I are both flying Apterix planes. I just put on the USA rudder.

Gordy
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: john e. holliday on April 26, 2015, 12:32:17 PM: Thanks John for the pics and the stories. I have been fortunate enough to meet these people/heroes at VSC and various places. It was a heartbreaker when I heard of the loss of Ed and his beautiful wife. Also Rolland sent me plans for all of his designs. Even the D tube wing version. Don't think I ever met your Dad.
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: rustler on April 26, 2015, 01:46:55 PM: Can anyone post a pic (I can use) of Kaz Minato's VSC 27 winner? I'm trying to do a write-up of the event and missed the most important one! HB~> ''
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: John Sunderland on April 26, 2015, 11:05:51 PM: Quote from: Gordan Delaney on April 26, 2015, 11:23:17 AM
Hi John,
The man flying the Apterix is really Jim Rhoades not Jim Young. Jim and I are both flying Apterix planes. I just put on the USA rudder.

Gordy

Thanks Gordy...and sorry Jim! I will make the correction. It was the wee hours and I am claiming geezer moment on several mistakes I made. They will be corrected in short order. I was busy flying all day with Jim and Grady.....Grady said to tell you " Hi!".
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: John Sunderland on April 26, 2015, 11:16:45 PM: Quote from: john e. holliday on April 26, 2015, 12:32:17 PM
Thanks John for the pics and the stories. I have been fortunate enough to meet these people/heroes at VSC and various places. It was a heartbreaker when I heard of the loss of Ed and his beautiful wife. Also Rolland sent me plans for all of his designs. Even the D tube wing version. Don't think I ever met your Dad.

You did...at the Nats but he was still recovering from several long years of illness that made him a bit quieter than he was already. To see a picture of him go to my page over on FB.
Title: Re: VSC27
Post by: John Sunderland on April 26, 2015, 11:36:50 PM: Quote from: rustler on April 26, 2015, 01:46:55 PM
Can anyone post a pic (I can use) of Kaz Minato's VSC 27 winner? I'm trying to do a write-up of the event and missed the most important one! HB~> ''

Please give me a little time....it is Gorgeous and I have several shots of it.