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Title: VSC Blues
Post by: Larry Renger on March 16, 2010, 10:53:53 PM
We got blown out today.  No competition.  Great dinner at El Corral, though!  You don't need no stinkin' airplanes to have fun at VSC.  Chatted with Bob Gialdini after dinner at the motel, drove by the NO-TEL MOTEL just to prove to Andy Borgogna's wife, Jackie, that it really exists.  Met the usual list of suspects at the field, bought some stuff, sold some stuff.

Bill Heyworth sponsored a great BBQ at the field yesterday.  What a guy!  Elaine ain't bad in the hug department.
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: wwwarbird on March 16, 2010, 11:11:40 PM
 Thanks for the update Larry. y1
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on March 17, 2010, 09:42:25 AM
Bad flying weather at VSC always means more socializing. I just wish that I was there.

Please say say hello to Bob Gialdini for me.
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Mike Keville on March 17, 2010, 11:45:53 AM
Day Two looks like "Deja Vu all over again" --- at least from where I sit (which is in my apartment, six miles east of the flying site).  I'm sick, thus missing the whole show so far.  Currently looking at gusty winds bending the trees on this side of town.  If it's the same at the field, this doesn't look good.

We'll probably be hearing from others later today...
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Derek Barry on March 17, 2010, 11:51:20 AM
Day Two looks like "Deja Vu all over again" --- at least from where I sit (which is in my apartment, six miles east of the flying site).  I'm sick, thus missing the whole show so far.  Currently looking at gusty winds bending the trees on this side of town.  If it's the same at the field, this doesn't look good.

We'll probably be hearing from others later today...

I guess they should have flown yesterday! You never know what tomorrow will bring.
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Mike Keville on March 17, 2010, 11:56:35 AM
I guess they should have flown yesterday! You never know what tomorrow will bring.


Very true...but had anyone flown yesterday it would have resulted in absolute carnage.
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Derek Barry on March 17, 2010, 12:01:11 PM

Very true...but had anyone flown yesterday it would have resulted in absolute carnage.

Yes, it would be very sad to see all of those beautuful planes destoyed!
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Les McDonald on March 17, 2010, 12:49:33 PM
It's all my fault!
Sorry but I'm coming anyway so check your lines and hold the handle a bit tighter.
Bad weather just follows me to these things and Part #6 of "The Stiletto Chronicles" will explain more about this!
Uncle Mikey needs to start feeling better since he's the one that's been badgering me for the past 20 years or so to attend a VSC.
Blame him.
Wind velocity will only increase the closer I get to Tucson. It's a me and nature thing.
Sorry, but I'm like a moth heading for the light.
                                                                               Les McDonald
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Mike Keville on March 17, 2010, 01:14:04 PM
Ahh....NOW we know!
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Steve Fitton on March 17, 2010, 01:17:31 PM
It's all my fault!
Sorry but I'm coming anyway so check your lines and hold the handle a bit tighter.
Bad weather just follows me to these things and Part #6 of "The Stiletto Chronicles" will explain more about this!
Uncle Mikey needs to start feeling better since he's the one that's been badgering me for the past 20 years or so to attend a VSC.
Blame him.
Wind velocity will only increase the closer I get to Tucson. It's a me and nature thing.
Sorry, but I'm like a moth heading for the light.
                                                                               Les McDonald



I guess this explains why the King Orange was so windy! n~ >:D
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Derek Barry on March 17, 2010, 01:19:54 PM

I guess this explains why the King Orange was so windy! n~ >:D

I was about to say the same thing.
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Steve Fitton on March 17, 2010, 01:31:58 PM
I was about to say the same thing.

Wind or not, your Dad should be ok, the Cheatermongous should be able to make it through anything! y1
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Mike Keville on March 17, 2010, 03:03:58 PM
Les:

I'll be there on Thursday if I have to crawl.  After nagging you for 20 years to attend, I'm sure not going to punk-out on you now .......... (I hope).
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: rustler on March 17, 2010, 03:32:42 PM
I'm with you Uncle. (Not ill, just not there). Sounds like if I had to miss one this is the one to miss. (Always find the best in any situation).
Best wishes to all attendees. REALLY WILL see you next year!
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Mike Keville on March 17, 2010, 03:50:35 PM
Hi, Ian.  Yes, we hope to see you and Shaheen next year.

Despite the high winds, this one (so far) isn't the worst.  The 10th Annual was worse.  Freezing rain and high wind all week.  There is some hope for tomorrow, Friday and Saturday.

Can't really complain.  Most years, the weather has been ideal.
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: wmiii on March 17, 2010, 04:28:00 PM
 Yeh but I'm home with an ill 12yr old Airedale, daughter has the flu, remodeling that was supposed to be done 3wks ago, and jury duty!!!

  Walter  HB~>
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Mike Keville on March 17, 2010, 04:31:17 PM
Ah, yes....we all have our crosses to bear, don't we?
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: wmiii on March 17, 2010, 04:36:44 PM
 That we do, but I only live 115 miles from the field. If I drove my 1985 911, 13.5k actual miles, I once made the trip in 43mins, young & stupid doesn't even begin to cover it.

 walter  :X
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Mike Keville on March 17, 2010, 04:53:51 PM
...I once made the trip in 48mins... walter  :X
=======================================================

Heck, that's about average from here....and I'm only 6.5 miles away from the field.  (But then until you've experienced Tucson's cross-town traffic and freight train crossings, you haven't lived.)
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Randy Powell on March 17, 2010, 07:25:55 PM
>>?You don't need no stinkin' airplanes to have fun at VSC.<<

That's certain. I bounced my Cobra 15 feet into my first flight. Broke it and burned my hand when I went to pick it up. So no airplane but I'm having fun anyway. The windiest day at VSC is better than the best day working.
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: NED-088 on March 17, 2010, 08:40:52 PM
It's all my fault!
Sorry but I'm coming anyway so check your lines and hold the handle a bit tighter.
Bad weather just follows me to these things and Part #6 of "The Stiletto Chronicles" will explain more about this!
Uncle Mikey needs to start feeling better since he's the one that's been badgering me for the past 20 years or so to attend a VSC.
Blame him.
Wind velocity will only increase the closer I get to Tucson. It's a me and nature thing.
Sorry, but I'm like a moth heading for the light.
                                                                               Les McDonald

Hi Les!
It hasn't been that way forever. ;)

For I rode my racing bicycle every day from Amsterdam to Utrecht and back to visit the World Championships 1976.
The weather: A light breeze and -for Dutch circumstances- scorching hot. Drank two bottles of water each way.

And you were there.... as everybody noticed in the end. y1

I vowed that it would be my last time as a visitor. I was on the Dutch team in 1978.... ;D
Great to be shaking hands again in 2004 H^^
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Jim Pollock on March 17, 2010, 09:47:24 PM
Gee Les,

If Bill,y Bob & Bob show up there will be at least 8 WC's represented!  Of course billy and you have 3 each!

Jim Pollock   :o
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Mark Scarborough on March 17, 2010, 10:21:50 PM
>>?You don't need no stinkin' airplanes to have fun at VSC.<<

That's certain. I bounced my Cobra 15 feet into my first flight. Broke it and burned my hand when I went to pick it up. So no airplane but I'm having fun anyway. The windiest day at VSC is better than the best day working.
UH Randy,
I have reviewed the rule book maneuvers many times, I THOUGHT I knew them fairly well, but I dont remember a "bounce" being one of the maneuvers? dang, back to the rule book,,Is that done upwind or down?

Sorry pal, that bites, but at least your not at work ,, Did it hurt the Merlin .40?
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on March 18, 2010, 08:30:59 AM
Mark,
That is OK. If you talk to the right people they will "Deem" it OK!
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Ed Keller on March 18, 2010, 10:37:30 AM
I am going to "deem" my income tax return to have been filed. Much easier than actually doing it.   
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Shultzie on March 18, 2010, 12:51:43 PM
We got blown out today.  No competition.  Great dinner at El Corral, though!  You don't need no stinkin' airplanes to have fun at VSC.
  Chatted with Bob Gialdini after dinner at the motel,

Any chance of forwarding this shot to Bob...that wastaken by Les McD in Oct. 73 of his Eclipse  give both Bob and Les and the rest of you fortunate snowbirds at VSC...my best wishes from old Shultzie...exiled as usual here in Gig Haaba Wa. LL~
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: john e. holliday on March 18, 2010, 03:06:26 PM
Well I am back at Aunt Betty's after a day at circle one with the P-39.  Yesterday the Firecat quit in outside loops so I was done for the day.  Only one chance at top ten each circle.  Don't know results.  Uncle Mikey what ever you got you need to bundle up and get out here.

Yesterday Ray Firkins was showing off his version fo the Gialdini Stingray in bare bones waiting for finish.  Seen Bob G. taking pictures and pointing.  Hate to see such great workmanship covered up by some paint.  With circle one being isolated from the rest don't know much else.  Get circle 2 Friday and circle 3 Saturday if I don't splatter this over weight bird.  Lost two ounces between Kansas and Arizona.  62 ounces made for a light pull for the LA .46.   y1 #^ #^ #^ #^ #^ LL~ D>K H^^Your choisce as I am having lots and lots of fun.
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Randy Powell on March 18, 2010, 04:04:46 PM
Mark,

Nope, just the tail of the Cobra (and a control system that will need some work).

Shultzie,

You should see the twin that Bart if flying. Wow. He's leading at the end of the first day of classic.
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Andrew Borgogna on March 18, 2010, 04:13:51 PM
Well I got my flight in yesterday with the Humongous, I was the second to last to fly on my circle in the first round.  Needless to say I didn't make the top ten cut.  But I did fly and did survive the wind and got the plane down in one piece.  So I was happy.  Today was another story, I have no one to blame but myself for not getting my stuff ready in time for VSC.  My engine flamed out early in the flight, lucky the plane was in level flight when it happened.  The good news is we have one throw away flight in Classic so that will be my throw away.  I plan to change planes tomorrow and fly the Humongous in Classic, the corners will suck but at least I can count on it to complete the pattern.  As I have said for four years in a row, wait till next year.  

The good news is VSC is a lot more fun with my wife here to keep me company.  And yes as Larry pointed out, there really is a hotel in Tucson call the "No-Tell-Motel".  

The people here at VSC make this worth the trek every year.  Had a long chat with Gorden Delaney about his Classic legal Heinz-57 and how it got it's name.  Bob Hunt and I renewed our annual discussion on motorcycles, ya that's the ticket "Discussion".  Joe Gilbert and his wife Colleen are so much fun, Joe flew the judges flight on Wednesday in the wind, so we all had to fly.  And as always Doc Holiday and his dog are great fun to be around, it just would  not be VSC without Doc.

Anyway tomorrow is another day.
Andy Borgogna
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Randy Powell on March 18, 2010, 04:17:55 PM
Andrew,

I didn't think you're flight looked so bad.  At least it lasted longer than mine.
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Shultzie on March 18, 2010, 04:38:03 PM
Andrew,

I didn't think you're flight looked so bad.  At least it lasted longer than mine.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT? ~^ %^
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: john e. holliday on March 19, 2010, 03:53:07 PM
It is great to see people that only see maybe once or twice a year.  Also meeting new ones.  Andy B. has a looker, she even helped me during practice day.  And to see Randy P. again, hope he isn't coming up with excuseitis like some people I read about.   LL~ LL~ LL~  My coach the demented poodle let me know about my pattern yesterday and she is wondering why I scored so low today with a great flight. n~ n~Tried to explain to her some judges see things different than others. D>K H^^
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: Mike Keville on March 19, 2010, 04:14:58 PM
I did crawl out to the field early this morning.  Lasted about 1.5 hours...saw several nice flights.  Still trying to shake this cold (or whatever it is).  Definitely planning on attending tomorrow night's awards banquet.

(If I don't show up, phone the morgue.)
Title: Re: VSC Blues
Post by: billbyles on March 22, 2010, 12:35:47 AM
Well I got my flight in yesterday with the Humongous, I was the second to last to fly on my circle in the first round.  Needless to say I didn't make the top ten cut.  But I did fly and did survive the wind and got the plane down in one piece.  So I was happy.  Today was another story, I have no one to blame but myself for not getting my stuff ready in time for VSC.  My engine flamed out early in the flight, lucky the plane was in level flight when it happened.  The good news is we have one throw away flight in Classic so that will be my throw away.  I plan to change planes tomorrow and fly the Humongous in Classic, the corners will suck but at least I can count on it to complete the pattern.  As I have said for four years in a row, wait till next year.  

The good news is VSC is a lot more fun with my wife here to keep me company.  And yes as Larry pointed out, there really is a hotel in Tucson call the "No-Tell-Motel".  

The people here at VSC make this worth the trek every year.  Had a long chat with Gorden Delaney about his Classic legal Heinz-57 and how it got it's name.  Bob Hunt and I renewed our annual discussion on motorcycles, ya that's the ticket "Discussion".  Joe Gilbert and his wife Colleen are so much fun, Joe flew the judges flight on Wednesday in the wind, so we all had to fly.  And as always Doc Holiday and his dog are great fun to be around, it just would  not be VSC without Doc.

Anyway tomorrow is another day.
Andy Borgogna

I was judging that flight, Andy - no problem, the glow plug held the cylinder head off of the asphalt just long enough.  The grinding sound made by the plug while the airplane was coming to a halt on the asphalt was pretty impressive.