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Title: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: dankar on March 12, 2012, 11:48:51 AM: Tomorrow the fun starts. Weather is looking fine and should hold up all week long. I live 17 miles from field and will prepare for long treck to field....ha..ha...
Keep those motors running, get on down the hi-way...born to be wild, born to be wild---
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Shultzie on March 12, 2012, 12:30:48 PM: Rain, Wind, and snow flicks in the air this morn. here in the NW! Keep those stories updates and photos coming our way....HAVE A GREAT TIME AT VSC 24 THIS YEAR!
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Mark Scarborough on March 12, 2012, 05:14:56 PM: I made it to Tuscon, went out to the field, what a facility,, chose not to fly today after driving, I will wait for tomorrow. Got my plane weighed, and registered,, so tomorrow I begin seeing how my plane likes the altitude..
Hey Shultzie, for the record people love your design!
On the down side, I did not see Powell, wonder where he is hiding, he probably knew I was going to show up so he bolted LOL
Don Mclave had a minor miscue apparantly as well,,
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: wwwarbird on March 12, 2012, 05:23:36 PM: Have a great time guys, and don't forget the photos! y1
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Randy Powell on March 12, 2012, 05:30:34 PM: Mark,

Flew today and got some bugs worked out. I had to come back to the condo to fix some stuff. A little very minor surgery inside the rear hatch, tape the hingelines, fix some undiscovered crash damage (turns out one of the muffler bolts was busted - fixed) and did some very much needed bench trimming. Should be ready to roar tomorrow. After I got my flights in, watched the big guns fly and then headed back to do the work on the plane.

And Mark, I weighed mine too. I picked up a touch of weight in the repair. Came in on the scale at exactly 3lbs, 2oz. Not bad since I put an ounce and a half of lead in the nose.
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Shultzie on March 12, 2012, 08:40:53 PM: Quote from: Randy Powell on March 12, 2012, 05:30:34 PM
Mark,

Flew today and got some bugs worked out. I had to come back to the condo to fix some stuff. A little very minor surgery inside the rear hatch, tape the hingelines, fix some undiscovered crash damage (turns out one of the muffler bolts was busted - fixed) and did some very much needed bench trimming. Should be ready to roar tomorrow. After I got my flights in, watched the big guns fly and then headed back to do the work on the plane.

And Mark, I weighed mine too. I picked up a touch of weight in the repair. Came in on the scale at exactly 3lbs, 2oz. Not bad since I put an ounce and a half of lead in the nose.
THANKS FOR CHECKIN IN WITH ALL US EXILED GRUNTS....RANDY! WOW~3LBS SHOULD RULE!!! WISH I HAD PUT A BOTTLE OF RAINIERRRRRRRRBEER IN YOUR TOOL BOX! ONE BOTTLE REALLY SMOOOTHS THE JITTERS :) 2 or more can KILL! LL~ DK^ DK^
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Gerald Schamp on March 12, 2012, 09:05:35 PM: Wow Shultzie, that is really an old beer advertisement, had a few of those back in the day. y1 n~ Gerald Schamp
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Gerald Schamp on March 12, 2012, 09:07:02 PM: What happened to Don McClave, he didn't.........? Gerald Schamp
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Randy Powell on March 12, 2012, 09:59:25 PM: Gerald,

All I heard was the Don had some problems. I didn't see him today. Guess we'll see tomorrow, but I did see The Ted flying that Ruffy. He looked pretty good.
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: John Miller on March 12, 2012, 10:04:34 PM: I understand that Don got his hand into the propm and had to go to the Hospital. I haven't heard how it all worked out yet.
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Randy Powell on March 12, 2012, 10:12:33 PM: I'm very sorry to hear that. Hope Don is OK.
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Mark Scarborough on March 12, 2012, 11:40:49 PM: Don got his pointer finger and thumb ( I recall) in the prop, it did some damage but nothing perminant. He was feeling emberassed as we all do when this happens... Not sure if he will be flying or not, its his right hand,, I think it will depend upon how bad it hurts tomorrow.
Randy, I will see you in the morning, I need to do some shake out stuff on mine, and I really want to have a couple glamour shots with our twins,, 8)
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Derek Barry on March 13, 2012, 04:54:15 AM: Good luck to everyone at VSC especially Dale Barry. Go get em Dad!!!! y1

Derek
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Shultzie on March 13, 2012, 09:47:05 AM: Quote from: Mark Scarborough on March 12, 2012, 11:40:49 PM
Don got his pointer finger and thumb ( I recall) in the prop, it did some damage but nothing perminant. He was feeling emberassed as we all do when this happens... Not sure if he will be flying or not, its his right hand,, I think it will depend upon how bad it hurts tomorrow.
Randy, I will see you in the morning, I need to do some shake out stuff on mine, and I really want to have a couple glamour shots with our twins,, 8)
OWWWWEEEEE! Sounds like Don pulled a "BOB PARKER??" ~^
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Leo Mehl on March 13, 2012, 03:02:46 PM: Or a Mike Haverly. Hate it when this happens!
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Andrew Borgogna on March 13, 2012, 04:06:26 PM: Well I lost my Madman today. Got to the vertical eight and at the top of the third iteration the lines slacked a bit and when they got tension back something locked up in the control system and that was all she wrote. Oh well! :'( Now for the good news, the Humongous sparkey did very well for both myself and my good friend Stan Tyler. Actually Stan did very well, I hope he got a decent score. Haven't heard from him yet. I got a decent score certainly in the range of what I flew. It was funny many of the ignition flyer's were saying in the old days you just had to make it through the old time pattern to place well, not any more now you actually have to fly a good pattern. The equipment, thanks to Don Hutchinson, is so much better now that everybody completes the pattern and good scores have to be earned. Anyway two flights down and two to go for the Humongous, I got to keep the sparks flying.
Andy
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Jim Kraft on March 13, 2012, 06:26:23 PM: Way to go Andy; Glad you got a good one in. Wish I was there. Sorry about the Madman.
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: PJ Rowland on March 13, 2012, 07:17:20 PM: Jim Lee's Super Wildcat from dmeco kit plans, 1946…. 185 sq in

(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k554/pjaussie/31121.jpg)
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Howard Rush on March 13, 2012, 07:39:54 PM: I just talked to Don McClave. He's OK. He nicked an artery at the end of his finger, so it bled a lot, but damage was minimal.
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: john e. holliday on March 13, 2012, 08:19:06 PM: Well something at pilots meeting this AM about a pilot needing surgury Wednesday AM. Did not catch name as my ears were still in the motel room. Nothing like getting old. H^^
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Randy Powell on March 13, 2012, 08:36:57 PM: Fun day. Got a lot of flights in and I've got most of the bugs worked out (if I can keep Gordy Delaney from saying "put in more nose weight" every flight). I'll get in a couple more tomorrow then live with what I have.

Mark looked really good. Got his engine really humming after the first, filter plugged flight.
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Larry Renger on March 13, 2012, 08:42:13 PM: Getting old is not for wimps! ~>

I got in a moderately good flight with a really marginal engine run. I am flying a Baby Clown with a PAW .061 diesel engine. Haven't quite figured out how to set it on the ground to extract all the power in the air. When it is "on" life is VERY good. When not, you nurse it through. Everyone thought it was going to die in some awkward place, but it hung in there. Definitely a crowd pleaser! HB~>

Had to leave before seeing my score as I needed to finish my Classic model! And yes, it is done a WHOLE day ahead of time! I may actually fly it before needing to make an official. Wouldn't that be unique? ~^
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: PJ Rowland on March 13, 2012, 09:36:11 PM: Unique but no fun :)
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Randy Powell on March 14, 2012, 03:09:13 PM: I had an interesting day. One sorta flight. I tried to pull a "Trostle" as I was told it is called. I hooked the lines up backwards. Ground the prop down to about a 6x4 and once again ground on the cowl and gear doors along with putting two holes in the bottom, cracking the paper on the bottom and breaking loose the head reast in the cockpit (vibration).

Maybe I'll just retire while I still have a plane.
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Shultzie on March 14, 2012, 03:49:42 PM: ~
Quote from: Randy Powell on March 14, 2012, 03:09:13 PM
I had an interesting day. One sorta flight. I tried to pull a "Trostle" as I was told it is called. I hooked the lines up backwards. Ground the prop down to about a 6x4 and once again ground on the cowl and gear doors along with putting two holes in the bottom, cracking the paper on the bottom and breaking loose the head rest in the cockpit (vibration).

Maybe I'll just retire while I still have a plane.

NO WAY!! DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!!! H^^
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: PJ Rowland on March 14, 2012, 04:18:13 PM: Randy..............Randy.............. n1
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: wwwarbird on March 14, 2012, 09:16:02 PM: Quote from: Randy Powell on March 14, 2012, 03:09:13 PM
I had an interesting day. One sorta flight. I tried to pull a "Trostle" as I was told it is called. I hooked the lines up backwards. Ground the prop down to about a 6x4 and once again ground on the cowl and gear doors along with putting two holes in the bottom, cracking the paper on the bottom and breaking loose the head reast in the cockpit (vibration).

Maybe I'll just retire while I still have a plane.

WHAT???!!!

Not good. I think I had even noticed color coded leadouts in the build photos.

I'd say it's time to park it until you get home for a proper repair. Just enjoy the weather and the rest of the contest.
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: dankar on March 14, 2012, 09:23:17 PM: Tomorrow sarts Classic, hope all goes well for eveybody.
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Shultzie on March 14, 2012, 10:13:21 PM: Quote from: wwwarbird on March 14, 2012, 09:16:02 PM
WHAT???!!!

Not good. I think I had even noticed color coded leadouts in the build photos.

I'd say it's time to park it until you get home for a proper repair. Just enjoy the weather and the rest of the contest.

AMEN!
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Brett Buck on March 14, 2012, 10:42:46 PM: Quote from: Randy Powell on March 13, 2012, 08:36:57 PM
Fun day. Got a lot of flights in and I've got most of the bugs worked out (if I can keep Gordy Delaney from saying "put in more nose weight" every flight).

Had it occurred to you that you might want to put in some nose weight? Although that wouldn't have fixed the other problem.

Brett
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: PJ Rowland on March 14, 2012, 11:01:57 PM: Im still unclear as to HOW that could occur.

They are Colour Coded !

Can we say Rookie mistake ?
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Darkstar1 on March 15, 2012, 06:16:29 AM: There are colored leadouts on the plane. But that never stopped me from hooking things up backwards LL~
Hang in there Randy!
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Shultzie on March 15, 2012, 11:44:06 AM: Reading about "hookin line on bassaakward...brought memories flooding back to 1993!

Our 4 man duel line Choro kite team was in the staging area at the World Cup...A HUGE CROWD gathered at the board walk...THE WORLD BEST KITE TEAM was waiting for the music to start the routine..(this winning team had given many many performances ALL OVER THE WORLD to kite festivals all summer long.)

THE HUGE SPEAKERS around the staging area STARTED THE MUSIC...AT THAT MOMENT ALL 6 KITES TOOK OFF THE GROUND HEADING TO THE TOP OF THE FLIGHT WINDOW...
SUDDENLY! ONE KITE IN THE MIDDLE WENT KRAAAAAAZZZZZZZZZZZEEEE..INTO WILD CIRCLES...SUDDENLY CIRCLED WRAPPING ITS LINES ALL AROUND THE REST OF THE KITES--
-WHICH THEN DRAGGED THE REST OF THE TEAM KITES--OUT OF THE SKY AND INTO THE SAND IN FRONT OF GOD-THE JUDGING STAFF-AND EVERY FAN WATCHING FROM THE BOARDWALK!
WHY???
THE LEAD MAN OF THE TEAM MEMBERS...HAD HOOKED HIS DUEL LINES UP BASSS-AKWARD!

Just maybe proving that no matter how skilled or well trained any flyer might be-----TO ERROR!! IS ALSO TO BE HUMAN? HB~> :! y1
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Bill Little on March 15, 2012, 12:37:31 PM: Brother Randy,

Things just ain't going right with this one.............

Might as well make some patches and go for it. If the worst happens, it won't be the end of life as we know it, and things might actually turn around for you!

Best wishes
Bill
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Mark Scarborough on March 15, 2012, 12:56:27 PM: quick note, Both Randy and I got in our first flights, both planes , Avengers, are still in tact,,,,
Lots of great flying going on, I have not been taking pictures,, yet,,,,,, to much intent on flying,, perhaps tomorrow, i dont fly till later in the day
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Shultzie on March 15, 2012, 02:57:58 PM: Quote from: Mark Scarborough on March 15, 2012, 12:56:27 PM
quick note, Both Randy and I got in our first flights, both planes , Avengers, are still in tact,,,,
Lots of great flying going on, I have not been taking pictures,, yet,,,,,, to much intent on flying,, perhaps tomorrow, i dont fly till later in the day
AWESOME NEWS!! GREAT TO HEAR THIS!!! CLP** (PE**) BW@ HH%%
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Shultzie on March 15, 2012, 03:08:02 PM: NOTICED JOE DILL'S CRUSADER!! HAS HE FLOWN IT YET?
Years ago..in the 70's we were blown away by this Harold Price model...THAT STARTED A LIFE LONG PASSION IN JOE'S SOUL FOR CRUSADERS...
(MEMORIES...the the time when JOE took 5 first place awards in a row...with his own Shark winged Crusaders! Talk about a magic run for the gold.
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Will Hinton on March 15, 2012, 03:25:09 PM: Randy, hang in there, friend, and don't let others make the decisions for you! You know your limits, and you know your heights. Whatever you do, think FUN!
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on March 15, 2012, 03:39:01 PM: From my collection of old pictures. Here is Harold Price and his Crusader. The 2nd picture shows parts of his 2 Valkries that used the same wing.
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Shultzie on March 15, 2012, 10:43:34 PM: Quote from: Tom Niebuhr on March 15, 2012, 03:39:01 PM
From my collection of old pictures. Here is Harold Price and his Crusader. The 2nd picture shows parts of his 2 Valkries that used the same wing.
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: john e. holliday on March 20, 2012, 06:40:09 PM: Well, the old DOC is finally up and around after two days of travel and first day back at work, if you can call it that. Took naps between sessions today. Got to meet Mark Scarborough and his lovely daughter. Also seen Randy Powell beautiful bird. Both planes looked great sitting together on circle one during practice day. Mark is well on his way to being a great flyer and congradulations on his I-Beam Award. Too many people an so little time what with the family situation. Great weather until the last day when the wind started picking up. My self I sat and watched until the wife called to say keys were in the locked van. HB~>
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Mark Scarborough on March 20, 2012, 07:16:52 PM: Hey Doc, I think you were watching the trophy girl to close,, LOL, I got the pilots choice Councours award, a USA-1 Got the I beam award,, ( just dont want everyone thinking I was claiming anything extra!) H^^
It was good to meet you, and I managed to keep Jessica safe,, sorry you didnt get to see her fly on thursday afternoon,, she had a great time, put in 4 flights on her ringmaster late in the afternoon... I love watching her concentrate so hard, then grin like a goofball afterwards,,
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Post by: john e. holliday on March 20, 2012, 08:13:16 PM: Thanks for the correction Mark, old man is still tired. That is one beautiful plane in person. Pictures don't do it justice. H^^
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Mark Scarborough on March 20, 2012, 11:35:23 PM: Thanks Doc,, H^^
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Post by: Sean McEntee on March 21, 2012, 01:07:17 AM: For those who haven't had the chance to meet Joe Dill yet, he is a class act! I got to spend an evening with him his wife one night back in December. I had one of his RSM Chipmonk kits for my dad for Christmas, and we spent the evening thumbing through it, and he shared the history behind it, and even autographed the kit and the plans. Very memorable night! Also got to look at his BEAUTIFUL Crusader as well as a Ringmaster Imperial that he was building. He had heart surgery last summer, and was working on fixing the Ringmaster up with a throttle so he could start flying again. Saw him at both Tucson contests in January and February, as well as at VSC. Really nice guy.
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Steve Fitton on March 21, 2012, 04:19:41 PM: Quote from: PJ Rowland on March 13, 2012, 07:17:20 PM
Jim Lee's Super Wildcat from dmeco kit plans, 1946…. 185 sq in

(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k554/pjaussie/31121.jpg)

That Wildcat is totally cool! How did it fly?
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Mike Keville on March 21, 2012, 04:27:58 PM: It flew very well, although Jim wisely omitted the Vertical Eights (telling the judges beforehand). Other than that, it went very well. Fox .29 power. The model won the award for the Most Unusual Entry this year.

As many times as we've seen deBolt's ad's for this one, who would've ever believed this 1946-47 design could be made into a viable stunter? Well, as he has demonstrated many times in the past, if anyone could do it, Jim Lee could.......and did!
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Steve Fitton on March 24, 2012, 10:51:23 AM: Is the Wildcat wing even a built up wing? Thats cool Jim was able to get so many maneuvers out of it.
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: john e. holliday on March 24, 2012, 06:49:48 PM: Well it was fast and he kept the maneuvers big and open. No 5 foot corners and he did a great job presenting it. H^^
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: James Lee on March 25, 2012, 08:54:22 PM: Steve
The Super Wildcat wing in the kit is a big chunka leading edge and a small chunka trailing edge. I built it up and sheeted back to where the leading edge would have been... The fuselage is molded 3/32" instead of 1/4 " planking....
The pictures should help...
Thanks
Jim
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: James Lee on March 25, 2012, 08:56:56 PM: Like I said, I'll eventually learn...
Jim
Title: Re: VSC 24 starts tomorrow
Post by: Mike Keville on March 25, 2012, 09:06:34 PM: ...and a pleasurable presentation it was! As I've said before, if you like off-the-wall designs, look for Jim Lee. The beauty of it is......he makes 'em WORK! #^