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« Reply #250 on: May 14, 2020, 11:37:21 AM »
    Hey Max, please don't waste your time trying to reason with these people. You are just blowing smoke up a dead horse's ass, so to speak. Your preaching to citizens of the USA, a very divided country at this time and growing further apart day by day. I'm absolutely sure you have better things to do, positive as a matter of fact. I've been around many of these people at contests and found them to be so helpful and informative and willing to go the extra mile to help their fellow modelers at the contests. Off the flying field, I don't want to know, for sure.
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« Reply #251 on: May 14, 2020, 12:24:47 PM »
    Hey Max, please don't waste your time trying to reason with these people. You are just blowing smoke up a dead horse's ass, so to speak. Your preaching to citizens of the USA, a very divided country at this time and growing further apart day by day. I'm absolutely sure you have better things to do, positive as a matter of fact. I've been around many of these people at contests and found them to be so helpful and informative and willing to go the extra mile to help their fellow modelers at the contests. Off the flying field, I don't want to know, for sure.


Ditto, wholeheartedly.

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« Reply #252 on: May 14, 2020, 03:28:58 PM »
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« Reply #253 on: May 16, 2020, 10:42:34 AM »
I've been looking at all of the "for's" and "against" stuff on people like Judy Mikovits and I believe that she is telling the truth. Either way, I think that any thinking person must smell a rat in the mainstream media rhetoric, especially from the mouth of people like Dr Fauci and the head of the WHO. I think that this could be the final nail in the coffin on who is telling the truth and who isn't.........



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« Reply #254 on: May 17, 2020, 04:02:09 AM »
Oh....I wanted to add my 10 cents worth on the Vitamin D3 subject. The last two years I've had some bad health issues starting with rather bad pneumonia in October 2018. This happened a short while after having a pneumonia vaccine shot. I just did not feel well after a few months and my health took a further nose-dive. I eventually ended up in hospital and saw an ENT, neurologist and a urologist. I had plenty of blood tests, scans etc. and eventually found nothing major to pinpoint my symptoms of overall weakness, wobbly legs poor speech (a disaster for me!) and shakes in my right hand. The neurologist then did a sleep study on me and stated that I have moderate sleep apnea. The graph showed that I had one apnea event for 60 seconds, plus many shorter events. Now, I never wake up gasping for air and don't snore, as evidenced by my wife. Anyway, I hated the idea of wearing a face or even a nasal mask, so while I was waiting for delivery of my CPAP machine, I did as much research as I could on sleep apnea.

I eventually found a lecture by a neurologist Dr Stasha Gominak in Texas where she mentioned the importance of right sleep and also Vitamin D3, so I studied her website and downloaded many of the reference papers to study. My D3 level in the blood test was 31 ng/ml and her recommended amount is 60-80 ng/ml, so I started taking supplements as she recommended. I improved somewhat and started to sleep a lot better. I have not checked my D3 level since this Covid-19 lock-down but it will be interesting to see how it looks now. My last test in November last year was 47 ng/ml. At the same time I found an amazing website on sleep apnea called the Apneaboard forum http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/ There was a vast amount of info and help there and they offer a free software package that will monitor virtually all CPAP machines and allow the user access to all of the info that the clinicians only get. After a few weeks I recorded virtually zero apnea events, even with the pressure turned down as low as possible. I now sleep better without the machine, and would like to think that this is due to my D3 intake but of course it is possible that other factors also come into play.

You can all obviously draw your own conclusions, but it makes for an interesting study, and will give you some more insight as to why many scientists are stating that the correct balance of D3 in your system helps the overall immune system. Her website is www.drgominak.com and a good starting point is to click on "LEARN" at the top of the screen and then Vitamin D or any of the other subjects. Her video's on YouTube are worth a good look as well. Hope this helps!

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« Reply #255 on: May 17, 2020, 06:21:50 AM »
I have heard of the benefits of taking Vitamin D, how do you take it? Over the counter supplements? Thank you for your message!  D>K

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« Reply #256 on: May 17, 2020, 06:30:55 AM »
This is what we read in Europe on USA.

USA Democracy

Some views suggest that the political structure of the United States is in many respects an oligarchy, where a small economic elite overwhelmingly determines policy and law.[23] Some academic researchers suggest a drift toward oligarchy has been occurring by way of the influence of corporations, wealthy, and other special interest groups, leaving individual citizens with less impact than economic elites and organized interest groups in the political process.[24][25][26][27]

A study by political scientists Martin Gilens (Princeton University) and Benjamin Page (Northwestern University) released in April 2014 suggested that when the preferences of a majority of citizens conflicts with elites, elites tend to prevail.[24] While not characterizing the United States as an "oligarchy" or "plutocracy" outright, Gilens and Page do give weight to the idea of a "civil oligarchy" as used by Jeffrey A. Winters, saying, "Winters has posited a comparative theory of 'Oligarchy,' in which the wealthiest citizens – even in a 'civil oligarchy' like the United States – dominate policy concerning crucial issues of wealth- and income-protection."

In their study, Gilens and Page reached these conclusions:

    When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites and/or with organized interests, they generally lose. Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the US political system, even when fairly large majorities of Americans favor policy change, they generally do not get it. ... [T]he preferences of the average American appear to have only a minuscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy.
    — Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page, 2014[28]

E.J. Dionne Jr. described what he considers the effects of ideological and oligarchical interests on the judiciary. The journalist, columnist, and scholar interprets recent Supreme Court decisions as ones that allow wealthy elites to use economic power to influence political outcomes in their favor. "Thus," Dionne wrote, in speaking about the Supreme Court's McCutcheon et al. v. FEC and Citizens United v. FEC decisions, "has this court conferred on wealthy people the right to give vast sums of money to politicians while undercutting the rights of millions of citizens to cast a ballot."[29]

Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman wrote:

    The stark reality is that we have a society in which money is increasingly concentrated in the hands of a few people. This threatens to make us a democracy in name only.
    — Paul Krugman, 2012[30]

The effects of oligarchy on democracy and the economy were key points of the 2016 presidential campaigns of Bernie Sanders[31] and Green Party candidate Jill Stein.[32] Bernie Sanders said about the Citizens United verdict and the Republicans' rise to power in Congress,

    I fear that we may be on the verge of becoming an oligarchic form of society where a handful of billionaires control not just the economy, but the political life of this country. And that's just something we're going to have wrestle with.
    — Bernie Sanders, 2014[33]

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American decline is a term used by various analysts[1][2][3] to describe the diminishing power of the United States geopolitically, militarily, financially, economically, socially,[4] and in health and the environment.[5] There has been a debate between declinists, those who believe America is in decline, and exceptionalists, those who feel America is special.[6]

Some analysts say that the U.S. was in decline long before Donald Trump ran for presidency; becoming the first presidential candidate to promote the idea that the U.S. was in decline.[2][7] While others suggest the decline either stems from[8][9] or has accelerated with[10][11] Trump's foreign policy and the "country’s ongoing withdrawal from the global arena."[11] According to Noam Chomsky, America's decline started at the end of WWII, dismissing the "remarkable rhetoric of the several years of triumphalism in the 1990s" as "mostly self-delusion".[2]

Gallup's pollsters recently reported that worldwide approval of U.S. leadership has plunged from 48% in 2016 to a record low of 30% in 2018, in part due to the increasingly isolationist stances of Donald Trump. This drop places the U.S. a notch below China's 31% and leaving Germany as the most popular power with an approval of 41%.[12][13] Michael Hudson describes financial pillar as paramount, resulting from bank-created money with compound interest and the inbuilt refusal to forgive debts as the fatal flaw.[14]

China's challenging U.S. for global predominance constitutes the core part of the debate over the American decline.[8][15][16]
Now that the US is pulling out of the "global arena", maybe the fat-cats in Europe can start paying for their own crapola instead of fleecing the US Taxpayer for their "Global Warming" Conferences where they serve lobster for lunch. You know you are quoting a member of the Communist Party when you quote Noam Chomsky, right? If you make a contribution to "Pacifica Radio", you might get some of his tapes for free! Nobody else wants the dam things!  D>K

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« Reply #257 on: May 17, 2020, 07:25:31 AM »
I have heard of the benefits of taking Vitamin D, how do you take it? Over the counter supplements? Thank you for your message!  D>K

Hi John, yes I get D3 capsules from on online health store here in South Africa. Some local pharmacy outlets also keep it. You should first have the D25-OH blood test and get your reading and then follow what Dr Gominak says on her website. The whole concept of getting the "right" sleep is also fascinating. If you watch Matt Walker who is a sleep scientist he explains the need for this right sleep.


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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #258 on: May 17, 2020, 07:55:29 AM »
Thanks, Keith, the reason I brought up the question is I was talking to a nurse who works in a doctors office, we started talking about flu shots, she (the nurse) said the office she works in does not give flu shots, they recommend vitamin D instead.  D>K

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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #259 on: May 17, 2020, 08:04:26 AM »
YO Dud...(no e on purpose)

why the disrespect young ignorant interloper...I answered all your questions and you choose to come back later and still spill your ignorance and hate...read below young son...learn stuff dude...with an E now

If you do not trust governments, why do you vote for them?...WHO ARE YOU TO ASSUME WE DO NOT TRUST GOVERNMENTS GENERALLY....SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT AMERICAN POLITICS

If you do not trust governments, why do you vote for Trump? AS STATED WE HAD TWO CHOICES AND HILLARY WOULD HAVE CONTINUED OBAMA POLICIES FURTHER BANKRUPTING OUR GREAT NATION


“Why would Trump lie?”, I do not know, but he does it all the time. YOUNG IGNORANT NON AMERICAN...PLEASE SUPPLY ALL THE INCIDENTS OF TRUMP LIES WITH CREDIBLE ACCOUNTING ...NOT BBC, CNN, OR MSNBC...ALL PROVEN LIARS

Why is there no general medicare system in the most powerfull state in the world? HUMM, AGAIN YOUR IGNORANCE SHOWES...EVERY CITIZEN AND NON CITIZEN IN AMERICA HAS DAILY ACCESS TO THE BEST MEDICINE IN THE WORLD...EVERY EMERGENCY ROOM IN EVERY HOSPITAL IN AMERICA MUST TREAT ANY HUMAN SEEKING CARE...FACT

Why are 30.000.000 americans under or not insured?  OK YOU FOUND SOME STAT AND ASKED...TRUTH IS MILLIONS ARE NOT INSURED FOR VARIOUS REASONS YOUR SOURCE FAILED TO MENTION: UNTIL OBAMACARE,  CITIZENS WERE NOT MANDATED TO BE INSURED...
MANY MILLIONS OF YOUNG HEALTHY CITIZENS DECIDE THEY WOULD RATHER RISK IT AND BUY A NEW HOME OR BOAT OR CAR....
MANY MILLIONS, LIKE ME, ARE ON VETERANS CARE AND INCLUDED IN YOUR 30M UNINSURED FIGURE... SOME FEW MILLIONS ARE IN GOVERNMENT SERVICE AND OPT TO NOT PARTICIPATE IN SPONSORED HEALTH PLANS FOR SAME REASON AS THE YOUNG ABOVE.
AND QUITE FRANKLY MOST EVERY EU AND GB HEALTH CARE SYSTEM ALSO HAS MANY MILLIONS WHO CAN NOT GET THE FREE CARE SO PROUDLY EXTOLLED....(NON CITIZENS AS ONE EXAMPLE)

QUESTION BACK ---WHY DO SO MANY WITH STATE SPONSORED SO CALLED FREE HEALTH CARE COVERED THEN GO BUY PRIVATE INS AND MANY TRAVEL TO OTHER COUNTRIES LIKE CUBA OR AMERICA FOR MEDICAL SERVICE? FOLLOW ON QUESTION; WHAT PORTION OF 335 MILLION IS 30 MILLION?  PERCENTAGE WISE WE ARE WELL ABOVE MOST EVERY COUNTRY ON EARTH WITH GOOD HEALTH CARE SYSTEM


Why do you need guns to trust your neighbours? BECAUSE THERE ARE VERY BAD PEOPLE WHO ROB, STEAL, MAIM, RAPE, AND KILL PEOPLE...THE POLICE ARE NOT MANDATED OR EXPECTED TO PROTECT EVERYBODY...PROTECTING OURSELVES IS A GOD ENDOWED RIGHT...TO NOT BE ABLE TO PROTECT SELF AND FAMILY IS FOOLISH AND FRANKLY ABSURD

When the second civil war wil begin?  WELL SHOWS HOW LITTLE YOU KNOW OF YOUR COUNTRIES HISTORY. AMERICAN 2ND CIVIL WAR WILL MOST LIKELY HAPPEN IF SO CALLED SOCIALISTS (HIDDEN COMMUNISTS) GAIN POWER AND START DESTROYING AMERICA

Why do you not listen to the experts on pandemies? WHY DO YOU NOT SEE THAT "THE EXPERTS" HAVE TIME AND TIME AGAIN BEEN WRONG...CRYING WOLF HAS THE EFFECT OF DELAYING ACTION..THAT SAID THE TRUMP TIMELINE VS THE WORLD DOESN'T SUGGEST HE WAS LATE TO RESPOND

Why do listen to people with an agenda? EVERY PERSON ON EARTH HAS AN AGENDA EVEN YOUR SNOTTY DISRESPECTFUL BUTT...GET OVER IT AND GO GET EDUCATED

Why do you think you a virus is an political thing? BECAUSE IT SO OBVIOUSLY IS.  IF CHINA CONSPIRED TO HOSE AMERICA AND D TRUMP ...PROBABLE THEORY, THEN IT MOST CERTAINLY IS A BIOLOGICAL POLITICAL & FINANCIAL WEAPON WE MUST ASSESS AND RESPOND TO...AND TRUST ME, WE WILL

Conclusion; your are fu*K*ng idiots. SAID THE BIGGEST FIDIOT TO OPINE HERE
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« Reply #260 on: May 17, 2020, 10:15:24 AM »
    Well dud #4 it's politics as usual.
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« Reply #261 on: May 17, 2020, 01:06:44 PM »
My only prescribed meds are a multi-vitamin/mineral  supplement and vitamin D3.  I never bothered to ask why vitamin D, because I always thought if enough sunlight then vitamin D was not needed.   Wrong!

Now I'm thinking that my longevity partially enhanced by all those vitamins I've been taking for 25+ years.  Age is 86 and going strong.

We shall see.
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« Reply #262 on: July 17, 2020, 01:50:34 PM »
Bump

Because it is worth revisiting near term history to understand what we thought and what we now know and think

Many will NOT slog through every post but I sincerely recommend you all just do slog along

99.4% survival rate in the USA
Business owners threatened with up to $1000 fines and loss of license
Citizens threatened with up to $250 fines and imprisonment
Every day more and more testing reveals more and more recoveries and lower and lower death rates
Letting most of the murderers, rapists, and thieves out of NYC jails results in a safer city according to Mayor DeBlasio
I pay a fortune in taxes for our SHUT local school....expect a refund/Rebate...not likely
Pay less shoes open fer business but local VFW shut...WTF?
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« Reply #263 on: July 21, 2020, 05:59:58 PM »
This particular guy has also gone around convincing people he invented email.  He didn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva_Ayyadurai

So, Shiva Ayyadurai is running as a Democrat?    :! Steve
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« Reply #264 on: July 21, 2020, 09:01:21 PM »
Give Dr Shiva a break, he’s running as a Republican in Mass!  For the second time, no less. ;-)

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« Reply #265 on: July 21, 2020, 09:17:35 PM »
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« Reply #266 on: March 28, 2021, 11:14:55 PM »
Rather than waste an hour. Just type in who is Dr. Shiva. Will tell you all you need to know.

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« Reply #267 on: March 29, 2021, 07:16:08 PM »
I've been looking at all of the "for's" and "against" stuff on people like Judy Mikovits and I believe that she is telling the truth. Either way, I think that any thinking person must smell a rat in the mainstream media rhetoric, especially from the mouth of people like Dr Fauci and the head of the WHO. I think that this could be the final nail in the coffin on who is telling the truth and who isn't.........



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Keith, Your video has been shut down...................I wonder why!

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« Reply #268 on: March 29, 2021, 07:31:06 PM »
The video was shut down because it was misinformation. The vaccine is here and doing stupid things is not worth having the title of the last person to die from COVID because they wouldn't distance and wear a simple mask. You can't fix STUPID!!!

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« Reply #269 on: March 29, 2021, 08:35:13 PM »
I am not convinced that 6-foot distancing, wearing a mask (except for numerous exceptions) and stealing an election has ever cured or prevented a disease.

Historically, plagues come and go despite human superstitions.

The superstitious fake cures are laughed-at by future historians.
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« Reply #270 on: March 29, 2021, 08:46:13 PM »
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« Reply #271 on: March 30, 2021, 07:51:04 AM »

Yeah it's pretty much come down to, a fool and his money are soon parted.  LL~
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« Reply #272 on: March 30, 2021, 09:26:50 AM »
The video was shut down because it was misinformation. The vaccine is here and doing stupid things is not worth having the title of the last person to die from COVID because they wouldn't distance and wear a simple mask. You can't fix STUPID!!!

DennisT
So once again we are told what we can listen to to make up our minds.  You are right, you can't fix stupid but you can hire them as censors for Amazon.

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« Reply #273 on: March 30, 2021, 11:51:30 AM »
Well drove wife and grand daughter to SAM'S for some shopping.  I stayed in the car.  When they finally came out the grand daughter just realized she for got to wear a mask.   She stated no one said a word going in or out.  I also wonder how many case of the virus has been reported in schools that are open and have been open since last fall. D>K
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« Reply #274 on: March 30, 2021, 06:04:24 PM »
Well drove wife and grand daughter to SAM'S for some shopping.  I stayed in the car.  When they finally came out the grand daughter just realized she for got to wear a mask.   She stated no one said a word going in or out.  I also wonder how many case of the virus has been reported in schools that are open and have been open since last fall. D>K
Doc I can (somewhat) explain how the large retail outlets like the one I work for are approaching this.  We surely wish everyone would wear a mask.  All employees are required to and have signs and free hand-out masks at the door asking customers to respect this.  Some just don't.  The employees especially can be quite upset about those who refuse but know the store is more concerned about NOT upsetting the customer ($) over it.  The employees don't think the customer has the right to make health decisions for them or other customers.  I know that customer doesn't even think about it in those terms.  If they did they would be more courteous I believe.  I've seen a couple customers argue with other customers over it, once almost to blows.  Consider being near someone who is drunk.  You can smell his breath from a good distance.  If you could smell covid that way you'd already be exposed.  His breath vapor travels quite a distance.  Doesn't help much when some wear there mask on they chin or don't cover their nose.
Another similar thing is dogs in the store.  There is a sign on the door specifically allowing service dogs only.  On an average Saturday there could be 30 dogs passing through the door-none "service dogs".  They say nothing.  We had one lady almost get her face torn off by a dog.  She was off work six months.  They did nothing.  Two days ago my co-worker and I had to put up with a customer's pit bull growling and barking at us while we were trying to help this customer and his wife.  It's hard to think,  while waiting for the dog to lay into your leg.  The customers could care less.  We do but it hardly matters. 

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« Reply #275 on: March 30, 2021, 06:31:09 PM »
Was wondering.
 Can anyone show a face mask label that does not state. Made in China.

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« Reply #276 on: March 31, 2021, 06:01:31 AM »
Through all this nonsense (and I am not referring to comments in Stunt Hangar), one thing disappeared: THE TRUTH.

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« Reply #277 on: March 31, 2021, 09:11:37 AM »
BIG stores are BIG targets of government oppression and employee law suits.
Therefore, for their own protection they impose idiot policies that everybody knows won't help.

Crisis Management 101:  Just do something. Anything at all.  Then you won't be criticized for doing nothing.

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« Reply #278 on: March 31, 2021, 09:20:34 AM »
I know I put my new roll of Aluminum somewhere......

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« Reply #279 on: March 31, 2021, 09:37:26 AM »
Through all this nonsense (and I am not referring to comments in Stunt Hangar), one thing disappeared: THE TRUTH.

It didn't disappear, it was voted it out.

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