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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #100 on: April 12, 2020, 03:18:26 PM »

Americans have done a lot more for you than you have done for Americans.
You're welcome.
Now go away. You are just trying to pick a fight. Who writes a post with 43 different questions? Not someone that wants to have an honest debate about a subject.
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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #101 on: April 12, 2020, 04:54:25 PM »
If you do not trust governments, why do you vote for them?
If you do not trust governments, why do you vote for Trump?
“Why would Trump lie?”, I do not know, but he does it all the time.
Why is there no general medicare system in the most powerfull state in the world?
Why are 30.000.000 americans under or not insured?
Why do you need guns to trust your neighbours?
When the second civil war wil begin?
Why do you not listen to the experts on pandemies?
Why do listen to people with an agenda?
Why do you think you a virus is an political thing?

Conclusion; your are "        " idiots.

like the Roman empire in decline.


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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #102 on: April 12, 2020, 06:44:16 PM »
Jerry,
With all due respect you must be reading some other thread, this thread has been nothing but a political rant with nothing to do with flying or building model airplanes. This has been going since April 5th and has been going round and round calling people names, not offering any solutions and not changing anybody's mind. Why it is in the General section beats me. I though there is a "special" section for members only to go at it, just say'n.

Best,   DennisT
Dennis,
There are 3 people on this forum that start the name calling.
Dennis Moritz, Rich Peabody, and Max Utien.
They only speak in insults.
The rest of us just occasionally rise to the bait and respond in kind.
I would much prefer rational discourse but will call a douche bag a douche bag.
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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #103 on: April 12, 2020, 09:47:08 PM »
Dennis,
There are 3 people on this forum that start the name calling.
Dennis Moritz, Rich Peabody, and Max Utien.


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« Reply #104 on: April 12, 2020, 11:24:36 PM »
You forgot one Arlan.
No, Moritz called names first, just not in the thread you are talking about. If he is trolling I go ahead and give him what he's looking for. He has called all supporter's of President Trump some very insulting names ever since his election.

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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #105 on: April 13, 2020, 05:23:27 AM »
The older I get, the more I believe in conspiracy theories and less in coincidence theories.
It's only paranoia if they aren't really after you.
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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #106 on: April 13, 2020, 08:53:01 AM »
I find it interesting, but not surprising, that in your country as in mine (England), those who communicate by means of foul-mouthed, abusive ranting are always, always, always politically Of The Left.  I'm surprised that they do not realise what harm they are doing to their cause.  Perhaps they just can't help themselves.
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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #107 on: April 13, 2020, 09:05:54 AM »
If you do not trust governments, why do you vote for them?...WHO ARE YOU TO ASSUME WE DO NOT TRUST GOVERNMENTS GENERALLY....SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT AMERICAN POLITICS

If you do not trust governments, why do you vote for Trump? AS STATED WE HAD TWO CHOICES AND HILLARY WOULD HAVE CONTINUED OBAMA POLICIES FURTHER BANKRUPTING OUR GREAT NATION


“Why would Trump lie?”, I do not know, but he does it all the time. YOUNG IGNORANT NON AMERICAN...PLEASE SUPPLY ALL THE INCIDENTS OF TRUMP LIES WITH CREDIBLE ACCOUNTING ...NOT BBC, CNN, OR MSNBC...ALL PROVEN LIARS

Why is there no general medicare system in the most powerfull state in the world? HUMM, AGAIN YOUR IGNORANCE SHOWES...EVERY CITIZEN AND NON CITIZEN IN AMERICA HAS DAILY ACCESS TO THE BEST MEDICINE IN THE WORLD...EVERY EMERGENCY ROOM IN EVERY HOSPITAL IN AMERICA MUST TREAT ANY HUMAN SEEKING CARE...FACT

Why are 30.000.000 americans under or not insured?  OK YOU FOUND SOME STAT AND ASKED...TRUTH IS MILLIONS ARE NOT INSURED FOR VARIOUS REASONS YOUR SOURCE FAILED TO MENTION: UNTIL OBAMACARE,  CITIZENS WERE NOT MANDATED TO BE INSURED...
MANY MILLIONS OF YOUNG HEALTHY CITIZENS DECIDE THEY WOULD RATHER RISK IT AND BUY A NEW HOME OR BOAT OR CAR....
MANY MILLIONS, LIKE ME, ARE ON VETERANS CARE AND INCLUDED IN YOUR 30M UNINSURED FIGURE... SOME FEW MILLIONS ARE IN GOVERNMENT SERVICE AND OPT TO NOT PARTICIPATE IN SPONSORED HEALTH PLANS FOR SAME REASON AS THE YOUNG ABOVE.
AND QUITE FRANKLY MOST EVERY EU AND GB HEALTH CARE SYSTEM ALSO HAS MANY MILLIONS WHO CAN NOT GET THE FREE CARE SO PROUDLY EXTOLLED....(NON CITIZENS AS ONE EXAMPLE)

QUESTION BACK ---WHY DO SO MANY WITH STATE SPONSORED SO CALLED FREE HEALTH CARE COVERED THEN GO BUY PRIVATE INS AND MANY TRAVEL TO OTHER COUNTRIES LIKE CUBA OR AMERICA FOR MEDICAL SERVICE? FOLLOW ON QUESTION; WHAT PORTION OF 335 MILLION IS 30 MILLION?  PERCENTAGE WISE WE ARE WELL ABOVE MOST EVERY COUNTRY ON EARTH WITH GOOD HEALTH CARE SYSTEM


Why do you need guns to trust your neighbours? BECAUSE THERE ARE VERY BAD PEOPLE WHO ROB, STEAL, MAIM, RAPE, AND KILL PEOPLE...THE POLICE ARE NOT MANDATED OR EXPECTED TO PROTECT EVERYBODY...PROTECTING OURSELVES IS A GOD ENDOWED RIGHT...TO NOT BE ABLE TO PROTECT SELF AND FAMILY IS FOOLISH AND FRANKLY ABSURD

When the second civil war wil begin?  WELL SHOWS HOW LITTLE YOU KNOW OF YOUR COUNTRIES HISTORY. AMERICAN 2ND CIVIL WAR WILL MOST LIKELY HAPPEN IF SO CALLED SOCIALISTS (HIDDEN COMMUNISTS) GAIN POWER AND START DESTROYING AMERICA

Why do you not listen to the experts on pandemies? WHY DO YOU NOT SEE THAT "THE EXPERTS" HAVE TIME AND TIME AGAIN BEEN WRONG...CRYING WOLF HAS THE EFFECT OF DELAYING ACTION..THAT SAID THE TRUMP TIMELINE VS THE WORLD DOESN'T SUGGEST HE WAS LATE TO RESPOND

Why do listen to people with an agenda? EVERY PERSON ON EARTH HAS AN AGENDA EVEN YOUR SNOTTY DISRESPECTFUL BUTT...GET OVER IT AND GO GET EDUCATED

Why do you think you a virus is an political thing? BECAUSE IT SO OBVIOUSLY IS.  IF CHINA CONSPIRED TO HOSE AMERICA AND D TRUMP ...PROBABLE THEORY, THEN IT MOST CERTAINLY IS A BIOLOGICAL POLITICAL & FINANCIAL WEAPON WE MUST ASSESS AND RESPOND TO...AND TRUST ME, WE WILL

Conclusion; your are fu*K*ng idiots. SAID THE BIGGEST FIDIOT TO OPINE HERE
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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #108 on: April 13, 2020, 09:33:35 AM »
I find it interesting, but not surprising, that in your country as in mine (England), those who communicate by means of foul-mouthed, abusive ranting are always, always, always politically Of The Left.  I'm surprised that they do not realise what harm they are doing to their cause.  Perhaps they just can't help themselves.

I don't know about England but as a moderate Canadian I got so pissed off at being bombarded by all the back and forth news coverage that I actually came close to unplugging, I even deleted a bunch of accounts including this one but obviously I did re-register, anywho as I said I don't know about England but as a moderate I can tell you 100% without question here in North America it goes both ways, whether they want to admit it or not both sides are equally  bad at foul mouthed abusive  ranting and it breaks my heart to see it.  I started a thread called "Humor Section?" and someone posted a joke that the punch line involved drowning millions of people simply because of their political affiliation,  I was gobsmacked that some found this funny, I see it as a very sad statement on where a once wonderful Country is right now, I wish everyone peace and love.
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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #109 on: April 13, 2020, 11:05:05 AM »
This is a GREAT test case for the Global Warming and Clean Air freaks.

US industry, travel, and commerce are dead-stopped.

Let's see if the globe gets any cooler and the cleanest air in the history of the world gets even cleaner.
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« Reply #110 on: April 13, 2020, 01:52:55 PM »

Find me one American Socialist.


    We just had one running for President, good old Bernie Sanders. Then there is his cohort Miss A.O.C.. Learned a lot about what she thinks from Hillary Clinton and her old man Bill, who have all been supported by George Soros, a rich socialist.. We got lots of them over here, and that's part of the problem. Ask anyone from California, they'll have a map to the stars for you!
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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #111 on: April 14, 2020, 04:35:47 AM »
This is a GREAT test case for the Global Warming and Clean Air freaks.

US industry, travel, and commerce are dead-stopped.

Let's see if the globe gets any cooler and the cleanest air in the history of the world gets even cleaner.

Oh Boy! In the Earth's 4.5 Billion years and man's 200,000 years of being around, you expect a month's worth of reduced activity to cleanse 250 years of industrial and social pollution and the Earth to cool? I think the air was somewhat cleaner when the dinosaurs were around - didn't help them survive though! And climate change is recorded in fractional degree changes over ten's of years - a month wouldn't even register!

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« Reply #112 on: April 14, 2020, 12:39:50 PM »
Although, an article in yesterday's newspaper noted that air quality in greater Los Angeles was suddenly much better. 
They theorized that the lack of heavy car and truck  traffic was responsible.  Could be.
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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #113 on: April 14, 2020, 04:16:00 PM »
Ever wonder what's really going on? spend an hour and watch this before it's deleted

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« Reply #114 on: April 14, 2020, 04:29:40 PM »
  Floyd,
  For sure in Seattle the air is a whole bunch cleaner..
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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #115 on: April 14, 2020, 06:40:46 PM »
Ever wonder what's really going on? spend an hour and watch this before it's deleted


It would be so cool if Stunthangar got Q'd .

I watched that video this past weekend. After about halfway through he ties in Jeffrey Epstien.
There has to be some reason that the Justice Dept is sitting on close to 150,000 sealed indictments.

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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #116 on: April 14, 2020, 07:04:33 PM »
It would be so cool if Stunthangar got Q'd .

I watched that video this past weekend. After about halfway through he ties in Jeffrey Epstien.
There has to be some reason that the Justice Dept is sitting on close to 150,000 sealed indictments.

I follow 8 chan but I will never be Q'd here
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« Reply #117 on: April 14, 2020, 08:15:06 PM »
There is nothing apolitical about any university.
Chris...

I think I'll continue to watch the University of Washington feed to get my information. It's non-political, as it should be.

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« Reply #118 on: April 15, 2020, 11:51:51 AM »
Universities (and public schools):

Have been preaching their doctrine since the 1970s, growing ever bolder over the decades. Thus, we have several generations of indoctrinated College/High School grads that bought into their beliefs on each agenda point. Who would have thought that we would be facing the very real possibility of full-blown Socialism being voted-in here in the USA? The Universities and public schools have done their jobs well.


"Out Of Shadows":

Thought provoking. If accurate, then quite disturbing.


Virus:

Apparently as the numbers continue to come in, it isn't anywhere near the catastrophic proportions that was being touted. Even the "Yay! America is in a recession! We may be able to be beat the Orange Man now!!" leftists that jumped on the astronomical mortality rate hysteria are having to eat some crow and modify their stances too.


Shut down:

Most concerning item to me about this, is the civil liberties abuse by some state/local governments. Let's you know just how far they will go if they think they can get away with it.


All of the above are my own personal opinions from watching/reading both sides over this issue (and issues over the past decades) and it will do you no good to try to convince me otherwise.

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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #119 on: April 15, 2020, 11:53:54 AM »
Although, an article in yesterday's newspaper noted that air quality in greater Los Angeles was suddenly much better. 
They theorized that the lack of heavy car and truck  traffic was responsible.  Could be.

So by that reasoning nothing should be transported / moved / carried with vehicles using IC engines to get any global benefit?

And someone actually theorised about something so obvious ? Next they'll be theorising why the car / person accident rate has gone down recently - hope they graduated High School.

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« Reply #120 on: April 15, 2020, 02:05:44 PM »
Respectfully, I understand and agree the seasonal flu can and does take out high numbers of people with other underlining serious conditions, but the Covid19 is two and half times more contagious. This is the problem with this situation.

Covid19 also seems to be more aggressive against the immune system which for those at high risk is enough to overwhelm the it and allow the other conditions which were at bay to attack. Resulting in what we see in NYC and other hot spots with hospitals fighting to keep up. Bottom line is we all need to do our part so we get things opened up and following the simple guidelines is the way we can make a difference.

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Respectfully Dennis-
While COVID-19 seems pretty obviously more contagious, the CDC have serious problems with the statistics on it.
1) Apparently they don't consider the patients overall health.  If the patient has other medical problems at the same time COVID-19 aggravates them and if the patient dies the virus is put on the death certificate.  To properly find out how serious the virus is they need at least 3 classes for the DC.  1-Death due to the virus, no other problems indicated. 2- one existing problem and the virus.  3- multiple complications and the virus.
Lumping multiple diseases together and putting the cause down as the virus misleadingly inflates the effects of the virus, particularly if one of the complications is more serious than the others.

No reliable measurements of actual infection rates and recoveries- due to lack of adequate tests for the virus and for antibodies to the virus the CDC  has had no way to effectively measure the actual extent of the virus.  Now tests are available but there is no word of anyone planning a random survey, using a test for antibodies, of apparently well people of a representative number of at least 3 races- white-descendants primarily of european/caucasian extraction,  Latino/Hispanic- descendants primarily of native people before 1492, and Asian- descendants primarily of East Asian extraction, and Black- primarily descendants of natives of sub-Saharan tribes/countries.  This needs to be a large sample, at least 100,000 people, and chosen by random selection and spread proportionately around the world.  If the CDC was on the ball they would have already done this kind of test in the United States, but they haven't and I've seen no word of one planned.
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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #121 on: April 19, 2020, 12:23:43 AM »
Watch this to see who is really responsible for this mess.






Boom! BUSTED Dr. Fauci in his own words






Yes, guys, I know this is a model airplane forum but we are under attack and the message needs to get out
watch all four of these



The video starts at Fauci here








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« Reply #122 on: April 19, 2020, 07:49:36 AM »
Another guy trying to sell books, he doesn't show documents to back up his claim. If all that Butler is claiming is true, why is the President going along with it. Trump does not take council from many people (read the Art of the Deal), mostly himself. He has access to and clearance to read all the files and records, if there were a way to prove this was a hokes or just like the flu he would find it and exploit it. The majority of people dyeing from this are in his base, can't lose them. They don't have anything but the fact that over 497,000 cases are recorded in the US. Trump knows something and his actions prove it.

Fauci is not driving Trump's decisions, there is something that Trump believes is indisputable for him to take the actions he has taken. We will not likely find this out in our lifetime. Fact is most cases are mild but if you have anything else working on your body Covid 19 seems to act as a catalyst to let it overwhelm the immune system and make you sick or could lead to death.  Even as some areas reopen, distance, hand washing and face cover are still the smart thing to do.

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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #123 on: April 19, 2020, 07:54:37 AM »
You can believe what you want but don't say I didn't warn anyone.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1251785325271289857

In 2015 he said this listen for yourself for the Surprise outbreak. How did he know?  WAKE UP everyone we are being lied to

With all due respect Dennis you don't need documents to know that water is wet and the sky is blue.
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« Reply #124 on: April 19, 2020, 08:20:51 AM »
Robert brother I too don't know who or what to trust anymore but gotta say....I only rely on entire videos or transcripts with entire CONTEXT....

I have been tv news junkie before Trump...thus I have seen 75% of all his camera time, G8, KIM, CANADA, STATE OF UNIONS, COVID BRIEFINGS...always astounded at MSM and their deliberate omissions and distortion to plain criminal slanderous, outrageous libelous lies.
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« Reply #125 on: April 19, 2020, 08:24:30 AM »
This is a doctored video that takes things out of context, FAKE Video. Many doctors (and science fiction writers) have said there could be a surprise outbreak that result in world wide spread of "something" be that SARs, bird flu, HIV, or 5G for many years. This is not just Facui. Butler is not practicing in the field treating this outbreak and is hipping is book and YouTube to sell books. Without documents to back up his claims nothing he say would hold up in a court of law.

Again, if we are being lied to why is Trump going along with it. Look at his actions not his words, this is serious. As we reopen this is very likely a second wave to come but we have bought time for the supply chain and hospital staff to be able to combat it better, may even be a third wave. Each time we will get better at containing it until it is either gone or under control.

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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #126 on: April 19, 2020, 08:38:39 AM »
Quite the Fanboy.

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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #127 on: April 19, 2020, 08:44:08 AM »
Robert,

Good stuff and I follow your Tweets.

I said day one the Democrats and China are responsible for this.

If you followed politics for any number of years, myself, over 30 years now, you know for certain what these Democrats are all about and what countries they are in bed with and why.

It's now so obvious you shouldn't have to explain it to anyone.

So, take these Democrat evil doings and add Propaganda. Interesting word BTW. Propaganda works. It does sway the mind and when it's brought to a complicated level over time, conspiracy if you will, their goal is reached. Quite easily in fact. There are great examples of how propaganda/lies have altered millions of lives in many Communists countries.

Every desperate attempt or method the Democrats have used to remove Trump has failed.

This virus is simply the next attempt in criminal activity to remove Trump or to destroy the US economy. I know, for some it's difficult to believe. 8 years of Obama's international criminal dealings, AND with years of MSM back-up, more propaganda and lies, add China, and Lord knows what else, plu$ other dealing$ a$ bad a$ a human being can get.

The results are many laws have been broken. Obviously.

Bottom line. Democrats are afraid of going to prison, many of them. All these attempts to remove Trump, now the virus, is about staying out of prison. It's that simple.

Like a rat in a corner.

 



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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #128 on: April 19, 2020, 08:56:18 AM »
The greatest weakness of the American people is not that we can be fooled so easily. The greatest weakness of the American people is that we cannot admit when we have been fooled.
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« Reply #129 on: April 19, 2020, 09:33:42 AM »
Well, you may be right. We Americans tend to be optimist and hold out hope for a better tomorrow. Sometimes we miss the mark. We elected this president and his republican colleges who are leading this effort. Are they all lying to us? Why, what benefit do they get from this is the country is in ruins?

If all this lying to us is true what course of action do these book sellers want people to take? Should we just forget every recommendation and go back to hugging and shaking hands and coughing on one another?

SHOW ME THE PROOF that this will result in less cases and death!! Which of your family or friends would you want to go to a city and mingle with an open population to see if they don't get this or that it's not that bad?

Covid 19 doesn't care about the politics. I believe this would have happened no matter who was president. We have not taking the idea of a global pandemic to be possible with modern medicine. We were wrong. What was also not envisioned was the weakness of the material supply chain to get needed supplies to where they were needed. We will do better for the second wave.

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« Reply #130 on: April 19, 2020, 12:03:21 PM »
We seem to have two threads going on here. A Covid 19 prevention thread and, "a who invented the internet thread". Which one is it? ???
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« Reply #131 on: April 21, 2020, 04:32:13 PM »
Watch the white house press core and listen close to this message, please.


youtube took the video down. Thanks, Tony for saving it. I too have it on my computer so I might need to make a gif. Censorship sucks.
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« Reply #132 on: April 21, 2020, 05:37:47 PM »
White House press never came up?

Interesting talented stuff though.
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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #133 on: April 21, 2020, 06:39:36 PM »
"Everyone here has been VACCINATED anyway........"

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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #134 on: April 21, 2020, 06:40:55 PM »
They are Lying to us!
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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #135 on: April 21, 2020, 07:45:25 PM »
The video/footage has been altered.

Watch the beginning, notice how the video "skips." That skip is a "still" frame edit.

All the audio has been replaced and the banner text was replaced, never existed actually in the original footage. Audio?, they can put in anything they want. And they did.

Nicely done though.
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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #136 on: April 21, 2020, 08:08:24 PM »

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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #137 on: April 22, 2020, 01:50:28 AM »
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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #138 on: April 22, 2020, 05:40:59 AM »
Number and a letter?
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« Reply #139 on: April 22, 2020, 06:12:31 AM »
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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #140 on: April 22, 2020, 06:14:17 AM »
The video/footage has been altered.

Watch the beginning, notice how the video "skips." That skip is a "still" frame edit.

All the audio has been replaced and the banner text was replaced, never existed actually in the original footage. Audio?, they can put in anything they want. And they did.

Nicely done though.

Did a search and it looks like it was just two reporters from FOX and the NYT having some fun, it's real but they were only joking around.
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« Reply #141 on: April 22, 2020, 07:20:14 AM »
Did a search and it looks like it was just two reporters from FOX and the NYT having some fun, it's real but they were only joking around.

Dwayne,

Thank you for the effort in research.

That short is a excellent example of political propaganda. And there is so so many examples. Everything the Left says is propaganda.  LL~ Not really funny actually. Damaging.

I strongly believe Trump has been extremely mislead on this virus issue. Lied to is probably a more truthful word. He's been bashed and riddled with lies since day one, actually well before this.

Trump has exposed the king of people we have in Government for those that didn't already know.

The Country is still in much trouble. We must all stick together for support because these are life altering times. Not a good thing.
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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #142 on: April 22, 2020, 02:19:05 PM »
Here are the official Coronavirus guidelines:

1. Basically, you can't leave the house for any reason, but if you have to, then you can.

2. Masks are useless. But they will protect you. They can save you, no they can’t, they’re useless, but wear one anyway. Now they’re mandatory. But maybe. Or not.

3. Stores are closed, except for the ones that are open.

4. You should not go to the hospital unless you have to go there. Stay out of the ER at all costs unless you’re having a medical emergency then it’s okay.

5. This virus is deadly but still not too scary, except that sometimes it actually leads to a global disaster. Stay calm.

6. Gloves won't help, but they can still help. Especially if you wear the same pair for hours and everywhere you go, then you can not spread germs, nope.  #science

7. Everyone needs to stay home, but it's important to go out because sun. Sunlight will kill the virus but not if the virus kills you first by walking in the sunlight where you may be exposed to the virus.

8. There is no shortage of groceries in the supermarket, but there are many things missing when you go there in the evening, but not in the morning. Sometimes.

9. The virus has no effect on children except those it has affected or will affect.

10. Animals are not affected, but there is still a cat that tested positive in Belgium in February when no one had been tested yet, and a tiger.. and one really deadly but also possibly fictional but very sick bat.

11. You will have many symptoms when you are sick, but you can also get sick without symptoms, have symptoms without being sick, or be contagious without having symptoms.

12. In order not to get sick, you have to eat well and exercise, but also never go out to the grocery store so eat shelf stable processed crap and stay inside your four walls but also stay healthy.

13. It's better to get some fresh air, but you may be arrested if you’re getting fresh air the wrong way and most importantly, don't go to a park, the fresh air there is deadly.

14. Under no circumstances should you go to retirement homes, but if you have to take care of the elderly and bring them food and medication then fine. Just wear gloves. The same ones. All day.

15. If you are sick, you can't go out, but you can go to the pharmacy to get your medications. Just don’t make eye contact cause you may spread your sickness that way.

16. You can get restaurant food delivered to the house, which may have been prepared by people who didn't wear masks or gloves. But you have to leave your groceries outside for 3 hours to be decontaminated by the fresh air that also may have virus particles floating around in it.

17. Taxi drivers are immune to the virus apparently since you can still take a taxi ride with a random taxi driver. Just don’t take the taxi to your mom’s house because you know. Stay away from your mom.

18. You can walk around with a friend if you stay six feet apart but don’t visit with your family if they don't live under the same roof as you. Even if you’ve all been locked inside for two months already. You may still have the virus and just not know it yet. You’ll find out. Wait another week. Wasn’t that week? Might be the next one. Keep waiting.

19. You are safe if you maintain the appropriate social distance, but you can’t go out with friends or strangers at the safe social distance. Social distancing means you shouldn’t leave your house and don’t be social, except you may go to the liquor store but don’t socialize there while you’re being socially distant.

20. The virus remains active on different surfaces for two hours, no, four, no, six, no, we didn't say hours, maybe days? But it takes a damp environment. Oh no, not necessarily.

21. The virus stays in the air - well no, or yes, maybe, especially in a closed room, in one hour a sick person can infect ten, so if it falls, all our children were already infected at school before it was closed. But remember, if you stay at the recommended social distance, however in certain circumstances you should maintain a greater distance, which, studies show, the virus can travel further, maybe.

22. We count the number of deaths but we don't know how many people are infected as we have only tested so far those who were "almost dead" to find out if that's what they will die of…

23. The virus will only disappear if we achieve collective immunity.. but stay inside until the virus disappears.

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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #143 on: April 22, 2020, 02:59:08 PM »
  Mr. Chewning, you may not know it but I think you have a future as a government spokesperson! I have the feeling now that I don't understand things completely, where as before, I wasn't sure that I didn't understand the situation. Thanks for making this explanation. H^^
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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #144 on: April 22, 2020, 03:11:03 PM »
Have to admit, reading this was pretty entertaining.
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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #145 on: April 22, 2020, 05:24:52 PM »
I'm certainly no HCP (Health Care Professional), but...
The key phrase that has me concerned is "herd immunity."

Does that mean the ones left AFTER the initial die-off are immune? If so, then does it mean we MUST sacrifice the weaker on order to support the remaining "strong ones?"

Surely "they" don't imply that the entire herd "earns" or "develops" said immunity without loss of life...but "they" certainly aren't detailing just how the herd becomes immune.

I don't believe this Pandemic to be a hoax, nor do I believe it was "released by accident." Yes, I do believe in conspiracies. I suspect a nation with 3B people can afford to lose a bunch just to pass it around the world to kill off competition or make the rest of the planet dependant on the medical resources it sells around the planet. My concern is how can we trust the supplies coming from the nation that proved just how quickly/easily this Pandemic can propagate?

Oh, and yes, I've too been entertained by this thread. It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion.


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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #146 on: April 22, 2020, 05:30:37 PM »
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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #147 on: April 22, 2020, 08:41:30 PM »
There are 2 things we know without doubt.
More people have the virus than we are aware of and the percentage of deaths is lower because of the previous assertion. We know about every death that occurs.  We also know from many doctor's testimony that  deaths are being attributed to Covid 19 when other factors have been responsible for death.
My son works at a hospital in Shelby County Tennessee. Memphis. They are being sent home for lack of work. Shelby is one of the counties not allowed to open May 1st because of Corona virus.
He says despite the lack of patients, if someone suspected of Covid 19 "codes" and no family is present they let them die without attempting to rescussitate them. It really bothers him. He chose his field to help people, not watch them die over political theater. If any of you have to go into the hospital over the next couple of months make sure that a family member is with you 24 hours a day.

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« Reply #148 on: April 22, 2020, 08:43:56 PM »
I just copied and pasted this.   

Yesterday at 7:22 PM
From Trey Gowdy:
I'm not saying Covid-19 isn't real... But Pay attention folks, there's much more going on here than what meets the eye.
Is it a coincidence that just when the economy is booming, the stock market is setting record highs, we are winning the trade wars, school shootings have stopped, our nation is at peace, the Democratic party is a disaster and so is their likely nominee(Biden). He hasn't a chance in hell & they're not about to let an outsider(Bernie) destroy their scheme.
It looks like Trump is a sure bet for reelection after fending off 3 years of investigations and impeachment, then all the sudden world crisis pandemic. Stock market tumbles, companies are laying off employees, everything is closed and canceled, CEO's of giant companies are resigning and indictments are coming.
Now they say there are a couple ways a President doesn't win reelection. Those are an unpopular war or a poor economy.
But there is something larger going on here driving this sudden outbreak right after Trump beats an impeachment. Especially the fact that it(Corona virus)originated in China who we are in a global trade war with brought on by Trump. Let's not forget Biden's back door deals with CHINA as well.
China doesn't want 4 more years of Trump either. It all seems rather convenient for the nations and opponents of our current President and economy 5 months before an election. Couldn't have hit at a more perfect time.
With the Democrats running out of campaign talking points in light of no school shootings, no migrant caravans at the southern border, fighting in Syria winding down, North Korea not firing missiles and Trump beating a sham impeachment. The corona virus gave them one last hail Mary to try and point fingers at Trump with the clock winding down in 2020.
This is almost the perfect fascist playbook. Control the population with fear-mongering and panic, control the media, spread propaganda and the fan-favorite disarm the population. Oh, and did anyone notice that while they are mad as hell at Trump for not sending aid to Ukraine, they THEMSELVES voted AGAINST giving ANY emergency aid to all Americans ?
Sorry but I don't think we are all going to die. Remember when Ebola was what was going to kill us all, and the media kept showing the piles of body bags that were prepared for the fallout. Then a month later it was totally forgotten.
The common flu has killed more people this year already and the media is SILENT!
A handful of deaths out of 320 million Americans and we are in panic tearing down our society and costing our economy billions in the wake. It all just seems fishy, a little too well-timed if you ask me.
Copy and paste if you dare.
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Re: Virus second opion
« Reply #149 on: April 22, 2020, 09:13:40 PM »
Interesting take on this


Possibly a fire drill.

When was the footage taken?
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