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VINTAGE C TEAM RACE .
« on: February 09, 2021, 10:27:22 PM »
Seeing we got sidetracked earlier , talking of FP 25's etc . Now, Here , in full tecnicolour . To be thrown in the T/R pit, once weve stirred up some rivallry . Revellry ? . Stuff .

https://geocities.restorativland.org/CapeCanaveral/Galaxy/4707/TR/VintageC_TR.htm



From Ray Fairall Via John Nolan ( Ooh as a K&B 40 Torpedo ( 4011 ? ) Class C replica .

This article by D. Pickard has been kindly forwarded to me by "dedstik"and "Steve-O-Bat". Due to the original photocopy dropping out in places, the strain on the emotions and patience of hand typing it from an e-mail to me, my corrections to American usage of some spelling, and minor revisions of syntax and grammar, there may be some differences or omissions, however the core of the notion is here.
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The incredible sound of racing 60s on high nitro brews at top speed on the end of long lines will be heard again in Australia.

C class team racing was unique to Down-under modelers during the 1950's and 1960's when it was a top drawing card in any competition day. McCoys and Doolings would fight it out for outright honors against smaller engines that countered lower speed with better economy.

The move to recreate this spectacle kicks off with Vintage C class team racing's first public airing set for the last day of the Australian National Championships in early January 1996. "That will be a demonstration to ensure as many people as possible witness the most awesome sight in team racing," said Ross Filshe of Melbourne, the man behind the move to re-introduce 10cc racing. "A circle filled with flat out McCoys or other 60's rocketing around on 70 feet lines is an experience no one ever forgets."

The rules for Vintage C will be very similar to what was used when the class faded 30 years ago. The cut-off date for plane designs will be 1965 with a minimum wing area of 250 square inches, a two wheel undercarriage with 2.5 inch diameter wheels and a minimum fuselage cross section size at the cockpit of 4.75 inches deep by 2.5 inches wide. The plane must be in the spirit of the event in the way it resembles a full size racer with a conventional cowled engine and the pilot having forward vision.

The engines must be from 5.01 to 10cc and of deflector piston type with no Schneurle porting. Fuel mix is open, but the tank must be no bigger than 60cc.

The event will be flown on 70 feet (center to center) lines of 18 thou thick from a metal handle that has a safety thong around the flier's wrist.

"One of the most vivid memories I have of this type of event," Filshe said, "was seeing so many cut and bleeding fingers as the McCoys bit back at pit men. We can't have that these days, so electric starters are being permitted."

Former Nats Winner, Ken Taylor, said the class eventually sorted itself out into two distinct areas, those with specialist .60's which fought bad fuel economy and difficult restarts and ordinary large stunt motors (35 to 45) which were handicapped with only 45cc of fuel. "We often saw the situation were C team race was the last event of the day where a lot of stunters would take out their engines and refit them into big team racers. Popular engines were OS Max 35, Enya 35, Fox combat 40, and I remember a Kyowa 45. The 35's ran on 9x8 props and the 45's on 9x10's which contrasted with the 60's on 9x12 or more.

"On the right setting, everyone stood a chance of winning. I. .....not legible on poor photocopy, sorry!
out a National with a Merco 35 powered model called a Cre .....not legible on poor photocopy, sorry!

Ross Filshe said he sees Vintage C team racing in Australia will become no more than a high profile demonstration indulgence of a handful of enthusiasts. "I don't expect we'll get anywhere near numbers of Vintage A or B but we've got enough enthusiasts with big fast 60's to put on a good show."

These are big planes that fly very fast and make a heck of a noise. They also pull like the powers of hell on the handle.

"So far, those interested in having a go are looking at 60 sized engines such as McCoys, Doolings, OS, and Enya from the period with later big ones including Super Tigre and replicas of older-style 60s such as from Stalker. I doubt anyone will use a 35 as that would be too close to the 29s currently well catered for in B class," Filshe said.

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Re: VINTAGE C TEAM RACE .
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2021, 05:15:19 AM »
Good Lord!!  The most ridiculous thing I ever did was a McCoy .60 powered Ringmaster %^@.

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Re: VINTAGE C TEAM RACE .
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2021, 06:16:57 PM »
How about unlimited racing with the Class 2 Navy Carriers on 70 foot .021 lines. H^^
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Re: VINTAGE C TEAM RACE .
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2021, 10:24:33 PM »
The ' C ' wing'd be about 32 " x 8 " , or 36 x 7 , or 250 divided by something . So not overly expensive to throw together .

Would be great as a Spark Ignition .60 class ! ? .

Will try & post a Aeromodelor Mag ' Bob Lutz ' B Team Race artical from the 50s , describing qualifying solo time trials , solo sprints . 10, 20 & 50 ? ? laps to seed racers to matched entrants .
Dunno if it was true or baloney .

Cant see a 50s era .60 pulling one much past ' the Ton '. unless someones got a Nitro Factory . 5 % max for easyer starting & tuning'd be the way if anyone has a go .


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