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Videos of the 2018 NATS
« on: July 08, 2018, 02:59:11 AM »
The first videos of the NATS are starting to be uploaded. I know this is not stunt but still amazing

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Re: Videos of the 2018 NATS
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2018, 03:51:33 AM »
That's some impressive stuff there. Only thing that would have made that better is if it had retracts, but it's awesome anyway!  The wind was sure giving him a little grief though.
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Re: Videos of the 2018 NATS
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2018, 09:38:04 AM »
Very nice video Sparky.

I remember flying on one of those Connies when I was at my first permanent station in CA.
Must admit, the pilot in teh circle got his physical fitness exercise for the day.

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Re: Videos of the 2018 NATS
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2018, 09:47:53 AM »
Retracts or not, the Connie is quite a model building accomplishment.  Thanks.
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2018, 12:40:45 PM »
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Re: Videos of the 2018 NATS
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2018, 12:43:40 PM »
The first videos of the NATS are starting to be uploaded. I know this is not stunt but still amazing

   That's absolutely awesome. The pictures in Dave's thread show the details, but the video tells you it's not a hangar queen.

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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2018, 02:51:24 PM »
Great video of the Connie.  One of my favorite airliners. H^^
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Re: Videos of the 2018 NATS
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2018, 04:07:09 PM »
Great video of the Connie.  One of my favorite airliners. H^^

They were magnificent birds, Doc.  My first time aloft in an airliner cockpit (along with my big brother, Gary) was as a just pre-teen on a night time ferry flight from BFI to SEA aboard a now extinct PNA (Pacific Northern Airlines, IIRC) Super Connie piloted by a friend of my Dad's, Dave Kellogg, who was a Captain for them. 

Second biggest thrill to just being in the cockpit was when Dave insisted Gary and I go back and check the engines to make sure they weren't "on fire" or anything...just a routine check, he added!  Gary and I strolled back to the wing and each looked out one side and quickly ran back to the cockpit to report that all four engines seemed to be on fire as they were streaming blue flame behind them.  Dave..after first advising there were no parachutes on board... then calmed us down.and told us "...don't worry.  That's normal!"  Yeah, right, we figured...but soon learned the blue flames came from the turbo compounded PRT (power recovery turbine) superchargers with which each engine was equipped which added some 500 or so HP to each P&W 3350 and the blue flame was their exhaust and it was, indeed, "normal".

Not sure either Gary or I believed it at first but, since there were no parachutes aboard, resigned ourselves to whatever fate awaited us.  Pretty much nothing but a grease job landing and taxi in at Sea Tac.

What magnificent airplanes the Connies were.  More sex appeal in the Gina Lollobrigida inspired fuselage of each one than in the entire fleets of jet powered Boeing, Douglas and AirBus clones that took their place.

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Re: Videos of the 2018 NATS
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2018, 06:18:54 PM »
[quote author=Ted Fancher   Dave..after first advising there were no parachutes on board... then calmed us down.and then told us "...don't worry.  That's normal!" 

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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2018, 06:34:13 PM »
What you do not hear too often is anyone accusing Pratt and Whitney of building the R-3350.

Not too often maintenance gets a free shot at flight ops personnel .  Lord knows they took enough shots at us.

I am joking. Please do not accuse me of mean and hateful comments, especially toward someone I do admire.

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Re: Videos of the 2018 NATS
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2018, 10:08:23 PM »

 Ed's models are all very well done and always seem to perform well, proving you don't need to go electric if you know what you're doing. Great job Ed!  H^^
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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2018, 05:34:47 AM »
Just think how much more realistic this would look without the mufflers hanging out of the cowlings... If he did go electric he could then install one of Ram's speaker/sound systems and have the exact sound of a real Connie! Just sayin'... A great achievement in any case!

I was fortunate enough to have flown on a Connie from Atlanta to Tampa back in the 1950s. I'll never forget that ride!

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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2018, 01:22:20 PM »
+10.   It takes much more skill to build and fly a model using internal combustion than electric.  Adjusting the carburetors on all the engines like this guy did takes real skill.   

Thank you for posting this video.

I fly both electric and IC in competition.  They both take skill to build and make work properly.  One is not easier or better.  Simply two different approaches with different pros and cons. 

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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2018, 01:42:28 PM »
+10.   It takes much more skill to build and fly a model using internal combustion than electric.  Adjusting the carburetors on all the engines like this guy did takes real skill.   

Thank you for posting this video.

Wish I could believe that.

One view of the inners of my electric twin with 3 electric retracts might change your mind as to just how challenging setting up some electric aircraft can be.

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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2018, 02:26:07 PM »
For some reason i dont have sound on these videos?
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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2018, 02:31:43 PM »
Just think how much more realistic this would look without the mufflers hanging out of the cowlings... If he did go electric he could then install one of Ram's speaker/sound systems and have the exact sound of a real Connie! Just sayin'... A great achievement in any case!

   Oh, come on! How much more realistic would it be if you made it twice the size and flew it on RC? If realism was the sole intent, that's the way to do it.

 It's the limitations that make the event. It's good as it is, we can just admire the accomplishment.

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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2018, 04:00:02 PM »
For some reason i dont have sound on these videos?

I am getting audio.

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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2018, 04:29:34 PM »
Thanks for doing this again this year.
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Re: Videos of the 2018 NATS
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2018, 07:49:40 PM »
Watching Frank Mcmillans electric twin in Houston with Retracts along with the amazing stunning flight performance had my mind going 10000mph. Amazing!!

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« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2018, 08:06:15 PM »
A giant congratulations to my flying partner and best friend Chris Cox on his 20 appearance point Hellcat and the Concours trophy.  Well done.

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« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2018, 09:09:25 PM »
[quote author=Ted Fancher   Dave..after first advising there were no parachutes on board... then calmed us down.and then told us "...don't worry.  That's normal!" 

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« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2018, 09:39:00 PM »
What you do not hear too often is anyone accusing Pratt and Whitney of building the R-3350.

Not too often maintenance gets a free shot at flight ops personnel .  Lord knows they took enough shots at us.

I am joking. Please do not accuse me of mean and hateful comments, especially toward someone I do admire.

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Too many years and too many P&Ws in my life.  It was, indeed, Curtiss Wright that built the 3350s; swaddled in between P&W's 2800 and the corn cob; the 4360.  I, for sure, would'a flunked my flight engineer check ride aboard an old 3350 powered DC-7 if I'd come up with that answer during my oral!

Actually DD, in my little speech at United's 2003 SFO retirement banquet I thanked airframe/powerplant manufacturers and United's maintenance personnel for limiting my scary moments to a mere handful in 38 years of steering the stuff they handed us 365 days a year.  Sounds like I need to extend the same to you.

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« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2018, 09:49:27 PM »
A giant congratulations to my flying partner and best friend Chris Cox on his 20 appearance point Hellcat and the Concours trophy.  Well done.

I'll double down on that, Alan.  Well deserved Chris!  Congratulations.  The new trophy looks awesome!

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« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2018, 10:03:38 PM »
Congrats to Chris for the award.  Is this one of the planes featured in Stunt News?    Like all the various schemes the pilots/finishers come up with. H^^
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« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2018, 10:26:33 PM »
Congrats to Chris for the award.  Is this one of the planes featured in Stunt News?   

  It's the one featured on the cover and with an extensive construction article in the Jan 2018 issue. David and I did appearance judging at the NWR, and it's one of those airplanes that looks great from 10 feet away, and from 10mm away.

   The standards for workmanship just seems to get higher every year around here.

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« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2018, 10:48:33 AM »
It is not only beautiful it's slippery.  I launched it and had to be careful not to let go too early!  Many congratulations to Chris, every model he makes is gorgeous but this one is over the top.  The two front rows at the NATS are all west coast, makes it tough on us mere mortals on a regular basis.
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« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2018, 10:18:50 AM »
The model in the video did not have retracts.  But, for the sake of tranquility, I will agree you are right.  Operating an electric model is harder than a internal combustion one.
after being around Ed Mason and his multi engine glo's and helping dave Platt with his twin electric ship. I will say that keeping the four glo's running for the complete flight is MUCH harder
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« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2018, 02:16:35 PM »
I just watched his flight again. He did a masterful job of flying. His execution was very realistic. And the plane looks awesome on the ground and in the air. A great accomplishment no matter how you look at it.
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« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2018, 05:39:04 PM »

I am flying and judging and helping other plus taking movies as I can. With the Wifi as bad as it is here be thankful for what I can post is you don't like what I put out don't watch it.
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Thanks for doing what you can, Robert. It is very much appreciated.
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« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2018, 05:45:03 PM »
Could just be people finding the Stream at random on youtube just not liking nodel aircraft

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« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2018, 05:48:23 PM »
Could just be people finding the Stream at random on youtube just not liking nodel aircraft

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not as fast as they are being found. It is a subscriber
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« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2018, 05:49:56 PM »
not as fast as they are being found. It is a subscriber
Possibly. Always the possibility.

Regardless. I thank you for the streams. Id love to able to be there.

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« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2018, 06:06:46 PM »
I got 2 Thumbs down on the last video already.
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« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2018, 06:57:41 PM »
Sparky,  there will always be folks who complain about free gifts.

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« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2018, 07:51:15 PM »
Thanks Sparky for giving us a view. Some people will always find something to complain about.
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« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2018, 08:26:43 PM »
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« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2018, 09:10:20 PM »
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« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2018, 10:20:37 PM »
Any publicity is GOOD publicity !  Nothing like a bit of controversy to make something popular . We Hope . H^^

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« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2018, 10:53:38 PM »

I am flying and judging and helping other plus taking movies as I can. With the Wifi as bad as it is here be thankful for what I can post is you don't like what I put out don't watch it.

Sparky, I can understand how frustrating it must be to have some knuckle head give you a thumbs down.  I am not going to say don't let it bother you.  The truth of the matter is they are some poor excuses of human beings here on the earth and they are negative, negative about a lot of things.  There are negative about life, negative about their mom and dad.  There are negative about there job, marriage, their own children, they are just simply negative about everything.  The surprising thing is they have no clue that they have a PROBLEM!
 

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« Reply #42 on: July 12, 2018, 12:52:02 AM »
I got 2 Thumbs down on the last video already.

   I am not sure why you even care. You surely know that most people appreciate it, a couple of morons give thumbs down is irrelevant and they aren't the target audience.

 You can always find a few people to boo anything. All that means is that there are always a few d*cks in any crowd.      You could make a video about a cure for cancer and I guarantee there would be people on there objecting to it. It means nothing.

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« Reply #43 on: July 12, 2018, 02:29:17 AM »
Thanks all for the encouragement, it just rubbed me the wrong way after a hot day on the L pad. To those who would rather watch Windy video's Please watch his 2018 coverage of the NATS. Noone of the Nays sayers has an idea of what is going on. I am live streaming when bandwidth permits Un-edited. I am taking movies and clips to be edited and uploaded from Home where I have the real bandwidth.

 I am actually trying to make the top 20 the rest is just an afterthought. I must concentrate on my first goal and the rest is just a bonus. Sorry for those who don't understand
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« Reply #44 on: July 12, 2018, 03:25:16 AM »
We all love you Sparky,just keep doing what you're doing.Best of luck with the competition.....oh BTW I refinished the cowl on my Shark. Sorry but I had to sand off your "hot stuffed" finger print from Brodaks. You my now re-enter the witness protection program.....

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« Reply #45 on: July 12, 2018, 04:34:31 AM »
Thank-you Sparky for all your efforts not just shooting Nats videos but running this site. For folks like me we cannot easily attend the US Nats the coverage is greatly appreciated. You are very hard working and probably do way more then most to support this hobby/sport and it is a great pity when efforts like yours go unappreciated by a small few that would not undertake what you do anyway.
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« Reply #46 on: July 12, 2018, 06:21:48 AM »
Was Matt supposed to let the cat out of the bag about your new assistant?  I thought you were holding that until top five day to surprise us.

Oh well, multi "thumbs up" anyway!

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« Reply #47 on: July 12, 2018, 06:38:47 AM »
Thanks all for the encouragement, it just rubbed me the wrong way after a hot day on the L pad. To those who would rather watch Windy video's Please watch his 2018 coverage of the NATS. Noone of the Nays sayers has an idea of what is going on. I am live streaming when bandwidth permits Un-edited. I am taking movies and clips to be edited and uploaded from Home where I have the real bandwidth.

 I am actually trying to make the top 20 the rest is just an afterthought. I must concentrate on my first goal and the rest is just a bonus. Sorry for those who don't understand
Sparky you are doing the best you can.. and none of us can ask for any more than that.  Keep up the great work with the amazing effort you are putting in.. If I were there Id surely be helping as best as I could.

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« Reply #48 on: July 12, 2018, 08:40:09 AM »
Sparky, I'm not there and any effort on your part to provide a glimpse of what is happening is greatly appreciated!  Thanks for your efforts.
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« Reply #49 on: July 12, 2018, 09:11:24 AM »
Bob - this may be too late to help, but while I like seeing what it going on, don't lose track of the real goal - qualifying. You have a golden opportunity here, a good clean flight seems to be all you need, and then you are a NATs Qualifier. Lots of people have lost the bubble and had that slip away. Videos are swell, but you are there to compete, not play Steven Spielberg.

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