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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: EddyR on September 26, 2012, 04:05:16 PM
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http://player.vimeo.com/video/48642618
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Very good clip, I see the radials have gone, now turbo prop. Same type of aircraft as featured in the Ice Pilots series.
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Fantastic! I love the air tankers. Here are a couple of oil paintings I did a few years ago.
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You can see they have a handful when they fly into the heat thermals. Really nice Amphib. Tankers!
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Makes me wonder what the trim change feels like to the pilot when you suddenly drop all those tons of water? The plane does seem to rise up almost instantly when he hits the drop button, heh heh.
EricV
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Here's Chris Cox, who beat me at the last stunt contest, dropping a load from a Martin Mars.
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Fantastic! I love the air tankers. Here are a couple of oil paintings I did a few years ago.
Very cool paintings Mikey! y1
Howard,
Do you mean that Chris pilots the Mars?
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Do you mean that Chris pilots the Mars?
Not routinely, although his job used to be flying water bombers. Chris works for the Royal Canadian Mounted transport ministry and had some official reason for flying the Mars on this occasion. He has not thus far gotten me a ride on the Mars, which he was instructed to do.
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He has not thus far gotten me a ride on the Mars, which he was instructed to do.
That would no doubt require having a valid Passport. Maybe, just maybe, this would be enough reason for Howard to invest in one. LL~ Steve
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A long story, but yes, I did get to fly the Mars, and yes, that was me flying in this particular picture. I had just completed conducting two proficiency checks on the company pilots and they were very gracious to let me have a go based on my previous PBY background. The load is centered very close to the Centre of Gravity, so when dropped, the aircraft does not so much pitch up, but actually balloons up. In the case of the Mars you are dropping approximately 60,000 lbs of retardant (7,200 gallons) if memory serves. The ballooning is significant, to say the least, but way fun! It does require a healthy push to avoid excessive altitude gain, taking care not to exert additional negative stress on the airfrafme.
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I didn't know there were any of those Martin Mars still around!
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I didn't know there were any of those Martin Mars still around!
Two of them, actually: the 'red tail' and the 'white tail' (seen in the painting above), which is C-FLYK, ex-BuAir 76820, "Philippine Mars".
As of 2007 (latest info here), owners were Coulson Forest Products, Sprout Lake, Port Alberni, BC.
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Very neat video, Ed! I watched a TV special some time back about the fire fighters. It included the MARS which was awesome.
BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM
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My dad went out to watch the Mars take off from Lake Elsinor here in SoCal a few years ago. He said it didn't clear the shoreline by much. Wish I had been there to see it....
But someone else was: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg-Xhs8cocE
McSlow
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One of the videos stated that the Mars was delivered to the USN in 1946. What was to be the use of these huge birds? I am in awe of those monsters! ;D
BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM
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Air sea rescue off rough water maybe. Did see the video showing the water tanker and the fishermen. i still laugh when I see it. It is one of the choices after the Mars video.
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Actually, one function of the Martin Mars during WWII was the transport of VIPs and high-ranking officers to-and-from Pacific locations. One, the Marshall Mars was lost. There may have been others. The two survivors became the air tankers we know today. Google it.
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Just discovered, via Google, that the "white tail" Mars ("Philippine Mars") - as seen in this painting - was retired and withdrawn from service on 23 August 2012. It was to be re-finished in its original US Navy paint scheme and transported to the Naval museum at Pensacola.
Thus only the "red tail" version remains.
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Actually, one function of the Martin Mars during WWII was the transport of VIPs and high-ranking officers to-and-from Pacific locations. One, the Marshall Mars was lost. There may have been others. The two survivors became the air tankers we know today. Google it.
Hi Uncle Mikey,
I would have googled it but I knew there were answers here and others may want to know. What threw me off was the Quote: "The Mars was delivered to the USN in 1946", which put it in service AFTER WW II................
Thanks!
Bill
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That's PARTIALLY correct, since the final one was delivered in 1947.
1st flight: 23 June 42
1st delivery to the Navy: June 1945
Original order was for 20, but was scaled back to 5 when WWII ended.
All of this is per Google. I wasn't there, having been only 5 years old when the war ended. ::)