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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Phil Coopy on April 10, 2013, 07:59:13 PM
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Just got out of the hospital with vertigo....think my C/L days are over?
Phil
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Sounds like time for a Futaba 6 and a Bridi Kaos. y1
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"Just got out of the hospital with vertigo....think my C/L days are over?"
Not a chance Phil!
Google the Mayo Clinic and search Vertigo.
Good luck & "Tight lines!" H^^
Wes
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Phil,
Not at all! I was diagnosed with benign vertigo about two years ago too. I've had a total of two boughts (attacks) and am fine as far as I can tall. I've been to the Dr. a hundered (well maybe not that many) times in the last six-enght months and she hasn't mentioned it so...........
This was for a blood clot....Gee getting old is fun! H^^
Tight lines, Jerry
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Is this the doctors opinion or yours? I sometimes get a little balance problem if I have not been out flying for any length of time. My Brother-in-law, the first time he flew one of my 1/2a's was all over the place. Second time a year or so later he flew my Bi-Slob with no problems. It was much slower he said.. As I type this I remember when the doc told me to get out of the wheel chair and stand up. Boy was I glad my Brother Bob was there. He guided me immediately back into the chair. It was several tries before I could stand up and walk by myself.
Now the cure for dizzies is doing nothing but loops and eights. That is how I fly my Jerkline Special.
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Been gettin' something similar, but I have a young wife. Only get it when she's around.
Used to get it in high school, Freshman year...when Tonia Hartwig walked by... >:D
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A couple of years ago I was having severe balance problems. It was especially bad when standing on a ladder and looking up or down. I work off of ladders almost every day and if I can't let go and work above my head while looking up I can't do my job much less fly controline. I even had problems walking down a ladder without holding on with both hands.
It turned out to be my glasses. Eyemasters had mixed up the cylinder and axis portion of my prescription between my right and left eye.
After getting new lenses, not from eyemasters(that wasn't the only time they screwed up something on my glasses), all my balance problems went away.
Arlan
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The only thing that could kill your flying permanently would be some kind of permanent, neurological vertigo.
Getting out of the hospital you're probably hopped up on a number of medicines. Seems like most of them have vertigo or dizziness as a side effect. So talk to the doc and see when you can get off them, the sooner the better.
A few years ago I was prescribed propanolol(beta blocker) for a problem. It fixed the problem, when I remembered to take it. I didn't take it everyday, but after crashing two planes on bottom outside corners I finally figured it out and stopped taking the medicine when I didn't really need it.
Later on I was prescribed a couple other medicines. They turned out to cause some real dizziness, and upset the coordination between my eyeballs. It was extremely difficult to fly on a bright, partly cloudy day. My eyes wouldn't focus and twisting around going up and down made flying difficult.
Now that's over and I've taken the advice of Igor Trifinov, three time world combat champ. Train your inner ear(or vestibular training). Just learning, again, to stand on one foot and gradually work at moving your arms and legs out and about while standing straight, or even bending over etc. you can relearn a lot of stability, and strengthen the muscles that do it. Another excercise directly for the inner ear(start slow on this one and do it somewhere safe if you start to fall). Stand up straight, raise your arms directly overhead with your fingers pointed straight up. Slowly turn around. If you don't get dizzy, great start. Then try turning a little faster two or three times. When you are starting to get dizzy you'll likely find your feet hitting the ground at odd angle and in odd positions. So stop and try again a bit slower. The trick is to learn to use the info from your feet and your peripheral vision when looking straight up to keep yourself upright and ignore the inner ear problems. With some practice you can learn to fly without being bothered by any dizziness. Many fighter pilots have to learn this. Something like 50% often get vertigo is air combat maneuvering.
Don't give up. Doing some strength and weight training, and various excercises also helps. The body takes more maintainence as it gets older. Eventually it looks like I'll be training, eating, sleeping, and nothing else. Hopefully at 100.
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Sometimes Vertigo is caused by particles that break loose and move around within the inner ear. This is called Benign Positional Vertigo (BPV) and is more common with age. With time the particles are absorbed and the Vertigo goes away. Before this happens the condition can often be treated by a set of head position exercises that get the particles to settle into a portion of the inner ear other than the semicircular canals (the canals are the portion that detects motion). My wife had BPV and we went through a number of doctors and tests before it was properly recognized. The head position exercises worked for her! Google BPV and you can find you tube videos showing how to do the exercises.
Naturally this is of no help if you have some other form of Vertigo. ;D
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Ear wax build-up can cause issues with dizziness as per my ENT physician.
Recommend getting that checked at least annually.
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Hey Coppy,
Phil C hit a nail! Meds will drive you nuts. I've been on atacand for Blood Pressure issues for at least 10 years. Then the insurance Co. sends me somcheep c__p and I get dizzy and BP shoots to 164. Fight those buggers for a month to get back on my Atacand and guess what? Yup, still dizzy...BP meds and Beta blockers are notorius for those side effects. Of course the other guys could be right too, eyes and ears cancause the dizzies. I guess I'm back to the DR.
Ward-O
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I am constantly plagued by dizzies from BP and Heart Rate meds. Whenever I am going to fly, I do some "hanger" flying. Do it on a carpeted floor in case of falls. (If you are on Warfarin blood thinner, the worst thing you can do is hit your head and cause an internal bleeder.) Count 5 second laps as you turn around in the room with your arm out as normal. Whenever you feel dizzy, stop turning and do some shadow loops or 8's, then start back turning. It will eventually help. Does for me anyway.
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I'm feeling better now. The Doc has me on Plavix because the problem was caused by arterial schlerosis in the back of my head. He said that with diet and plavix I shouln't have th eprobpem again. Thanks for all the helpful comments.
Phil
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Phil,
One thing you could do now that you have the medical end under control is to take some 500mg Ginger pills before you start flying. I am not a doctor and this is not medical advise but the ginger will help with slight dizziness particularly for inverted flight when you first start flying again. Good luck.
Best, DennisT