Author Topic: UPDATE-Brotherhoodofthering.info is...... UP! (Read 7351 times)

Clancy Arnold · « **on:** July 28, 2011, 01:45:26 PM »

All day yesterday the ringmaster forum was down. In the evening I sent an Email to Dee asking if there was a problem?
Clancy

Dee's reply:
Server down...........working on it. Hopefully we won't lose everything.

phil myers · « **Reply #1 on:** July 28, 2011, 01:58:26 PM »

Clancy, Thanks for that. I thought I was doing something wrong at my end. I tried a few times yesterday.
Phil

Richard Grogan · « **Reply #2 on:** July 29, 2011, 09:01:25 AM »

The hardrive crashed on the server. An attempt to recover data and transfer to new drive is in progress.

Garf · « **Reply #3 on:** July 29, 2011, 10:45:14 AM »

Weren't there any backups?

W.D. Roland · « **Reply #4 on:** July 29, 2011, 01:49:16 PM »

ping sever successful.

Ping Forum fail.

John Cralley · « **Reply #5 on:** July 29, 2011, 02:36:28 PM »

Quote from: Garf on July 29, 2011, 10:45:14 AM

Weren't there any backups?

David,

Same question I am asking myself.

Even with a backup, if it is NOT kept at a totally independent (secure) location, you can loose the farm.

Let us hope for the best.

W.D. Roland · « **Reply #6 on:** July 29, 2011, 02:58:33 PM »

John

Keeping fingers crossed!!

Glad is no need for Scapegoat services!

Richard Grogan · « **Reply #7 on:** July 29, 2011, 04:24:09 PM »

The server/site is donated. Moderators don't have the administrative rights/ permissions needed to perform backups, hence the problem.Keep your fingers crossed that a partial recovery can be made...

Garf · « **Reply #8 on:** July 30, 2011, 06:06:50 PM »

Quote from: Richard Grogan on July 29, 2011, 04:24:09 PM

The server/site is donated. Moderators don't have the administrative rights/ permissions needed to perform backups, hence the problem.Keep your fingers crossed that a partial recovery can be made...

Donated? Doesn't sound good for a major site.

W.D. Roland · « **Reply #9 on:** July 30, 2011, 10:11:36 PM »

Phil
Not a major site but Home.

Miss my Brothers

I WANA Go home!

larry borden · « **Reply #10 on:** July 31, 2011, 10:17:01 AM »

As a retired IT person, there's an old saying, 'Sometimes S--t Just Happens', No matter how much you think you're prpared. This is the stuff from which we learn.

Andrew Borgogna · « **Reply #11 on:** July 31, 2011, 02:20:56 PM »

I guess they never heard of RAID disk configuration.

PerttiMe · « **Reply #12 on:** July 31, 2011, 02:36:11 PM »

Do forums end up on http://wayback.archive.org/web/ ?

Tim Wescott · « **Reply #13 on:** August 01, 2011, 10:53:15 PM »

Quote from: Andrew Borgogna on July 31, 2011, 02:20:56 PM

I guess they never heard of RAID disk configuration.

I was involved with a voice mail system that got sold to a hospital, with a RAID array. We left with instructions to "call if the disk controller shows a fault light".

About a year later (this was in the early 1990's, when hard drives were not reliable), the second hard drive in the array crashed, their voice mail was gone, and they called.

But that's not why I'm posting in this thread today. Today, I just want to whine: I want my BOTR fix!!

I hope it gets back up. Even if it comes back up nekkid with no pictures or past threads or anything, it'll be lots better than not there!

John Stiles · « **Reply #14 on:** August 02, 2011, 03:12:36 AM »

Quote from: Tim Wescott on August 01, 2011, 10:53:15 PM

I was involved with a voice mail system that got sold to a hospital, with a RAID array. We left with instructions to "call if the disk controller shows a fault light".

About a year later (this was in the early 1990's, when hard drives were not reliable), the second hard drive in the array crashed, their voice mail was gone, and they called.

But that's not why I'm posting in this thread today. Today, I just want to whine: I want my BOTR fix!!

I hope it gets back up. Even if it comes back up nekkid with no pictures or past threads or anything, it'll be lots better than not there!

Got that right.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #15 on:** August 02, 2011, 09:01:05 AM »

Not a member yet. But, the new card in my camera says it will hold one thousand+ pictures. The other cardhad amax of 400+. I noticed that my picture file in the computor was getting large and taking time to locate pictures. Had the wife down load all to a disc. Before I would go to Wally World and down load the card to a disc. So far the hard drive has been dependable. That is because we disconnect power supply during lightning storms. The first one was one in by lightning while I was not at home

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #16 on:** August 02, 2011, 11:43:31 AM »

I got the same message John. Everybody sit back and relax. They are doing all that can be done at this time. It may take some doing but the "Brotherhood of the Ring" weill be back better than ever. Kudos to all who have worked so hard.

"G-Man"

John Stiles · « **Reply #17 on:** August 02, 2011, 01:34:21 PM »

Here's what I just got when I clicked the brotherhood link from before the crash: Date 8/2/2011 Time 2:32:03 PM

Thank you for evaluating ArGoSoft Mail Server Pro.

30 day evaluation period has expired.

To enable the server, the server administrator has to register it.

For registration information, please follow this link.

ArGoSoft Mail Server Pro for WinNT/2000/XP, Version 1.8 (1.8.8.1)

© ArGo Software Design, 1999-2005

Tim Wescott · « **Reply #18 on:** August 02, 2011, 01:37:44 PM »

Somebody's working on something!

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #19 on:** August 02, 2011, 03:05:54 PM »

Yes they are working as fast as they can. They don't like it any more than you do. If you did not get the email from Dee send him your email address so you can get on the new list. golfrice1 at yahoo dot com Please tell him you are a member as he does not know all of you.

"G-Man"

chuck_b24 · « **Reply #20 on:** August 02, 2011, 04:25:46 PM »

there is a notic to register>>> do we have to reregister??? thanks..chuck

John Stiles · « **Reply #21 on:** August 02, 2011, 04:29:55 PM »

Quote from: chuck_b24 on August 02, 2011, 04:25:46 PM

there is a notic to register>>> do we have to reregister??? thanks..chuck

I don't think so, Chuck....lets just be patient and hang out in the chatroom.

Anybody that wants to here's the link: http://www.chatzy.com/686759990069

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #22 on:** August 02, 2011, 05:01:01 PM »

Quote from: chuck_b24 on August 02, 2011, 04:25:46 PM

there is a notic to register>>> do we have to reregister??? thanks..chuck

No Chuck. That is for the site owner to reregister if he wants that server. Someone will get to you as soon as we find out what to do. Do as John says for now, join the chat room. ASll info is being passed thru there when we get it.

We apologise for taking up the space with this Sparky but this is the best way to let them know right now.

"G-Man"

John Stiles · « **Reply #23 on:** August 02, 2011, 07:40:57 PM »

Sparky's welcome too!

Garf · « **Reply #24 on:** August 03, 2011, 09:26:23 PM »

It would be nice if they would put up an information page at the old address so people would know what is happening.

Richard Grogan · « **Reply #25 on:** August 03, 2011, 10:52:39 PM »

Quote from: Garf on August 03, 2011, 09:26:23 PM

It would be nice if they would put up an information page at the old address so people would know what is happening.

If you go to www.brotherhoodofthering.info you will see exactly what is going on-"The Brotherhood Has Suffered a Hard Drive Crash. Operations Will Continue As Soon As Possible "

There is nothing new to report, other than the drive is in the hands of a data recovery facility in Dallas.It will be shipped to Houston afterwards. We should know something within a week.Hopefully...

Peter Nevai · « **Reply #26 on:** August 03, 2011, 11:22:36 PM »

Quote from: Tim Wescott on August 01, 2011, 10:53:15 PM

I was involved with a voice mail system that got sold to a hospital, with a RAID array. We left with instructions to "call if the disk controller shows a fault light".

About a year later (this was in the early 1990's, when hard drives were not reliable), the second hard drive in the array crashed, their voice mail was gone, and they called.

But that's not why I'm posting in this thread today. Today, I just want to whine: I want my BOTR fix!!

I hope it gets back up. Even if it comes back up nekkid with no pictures or past threads or anything, it'll be lots better than not there!

The second disk was probably the voice storage disk the first the system disk. SCSI drives of the day were quite reliable. That is if they used SCSI. By yoir description it was not a mirrored system (raid 0). Wonder what crappy or under optioned VM system it was.

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #27 on:** August 03, 2011, 11:32:21 PM »

Quote from: Garf on August 03, 2011, 09:26:23 PM

It would be nice if they would put up an information page at the old address so people would know what is happening.

Phil;

Richard is correct. All updates will go to the old address when they are known. If you wish to know faster, well I don't think there is a faster way. You can always do what I advised above and get your email address to Dee. We are trying to get all the addresses we can so no one gets left behind.

"G-Man"

Tim Wescott · « **Reply #28 on:** August 04, 2011, 12:34:13 AM »

Quote from: Peter Nevai on August 03, 2011, 11:22:36 PM

The second disk was probably the voice storage disk the first the system disk. SCSI drives of the day were quite reliable. That is if they used SCSI. By yoir description it was not a mirrored system (raid 0). Wonder what crappy or under optioned VM system it was.

No it was not. I built the PC it was in. It was RAID 1, using ESDI drives in some controller. And I was part of the team that instructed the customer about looking at the status display on the controller (it wasn't integrated into the program in any way). The drives we were getting were _not_ reliable, although we started using SCSI drives shortly after that and reliability went up. The controller clearly showed that a drive was defective when we picked up the machine, so whatever fault is due a non-technical customer that doesn't understand how to keep the magic in the box, it was their fault (we won't go into what team of techno-geeks decided that a receptionist was qualified to look at a little LCD screen every day and verify that it said "DRIVE OK". Other than to say that it wasn't me -- I didn't have the seniority).

The system was primarily designed as an easily customized voice response system. I honestly can't remember if the customer was using anything more than voice mail on it, however (we often ended up selling VM systems "and you can move up to custom solutions later"). The programming "language" was bizarre, being a mutated offspring of a spreadsheet and BASIC. The chief software engineer ended up leaving the company to be a salesman at a bookstore, if that gives you any clues as to the nature of the beast.

It was my first job out of college, it was 1991 and Portland was flooded with the engineers escaping the sinking Tektronix, so I was happy to get a job that paid a living wage and occasionally allowed my to do circuit design, even if what I really did was (in descending order) build PCs, QC PCs, select PCs, and in any remaining time do the afore-mentioned circuit design and the occasional systems engineering.

I had an MSEE, I was wrenching on PC's, and I was happy to get the job. On my first day my boss pointed to my technician's desk and told me to learn everything I could from him, because that Friday I was expected to fire the guy.

John Stiles · « **Reply #29 on:** August 09, 2011, 05:15:00 AM »

Sure hope they can recover the picture albums.....I lost all my model pics when my wifes computer crashed.

W.D. Roland · « **Reply #30 on:** August 10, 2011, 07:44:59 AM »

Quote from: John Stiles on August 09, 2011, 05:15:00 AM

Sure hope they can recover the picture albums.....I lost all my model pics when my wifes computer crashed.

Heck I could do with loss of all if we can just have a place share things with real people and friends again.

Garf · « **Reply #31 on:** August 10, 2011, 12:14:08 PM »

You're all welcome to use my forum until you get the Brothers site back online:

http://hangarflying.proboards18.com/index.cgi?board=wire

John Stiles · « **Reply #32 on:** August 10, 2011, 02:14:30 PM »

Quote from: Garf on August 10, 2011, 12:14:08 PM

You're all welcome to use my forum until you get the Brothers site back online:

http://hangarflying.proboards18.com/index.cgi?board=wire

That's where I been hangin out....pretty clean place too, Garf.....

Garf · « **Reply #33 on:** August 10, 2011, 02:26:25 PM »

It's a little quiet. It could use some more traffic.

W.D. Roland · « **Reply #34 on:** August 10, 2011, 03:20:02 PM »

Went to your site the other night and didn't see anyone...
Knowing me made a wrong turn somewhere.
John, make mo louder noise so I can find Ya!

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #35 on:** August 10, 2011, 03:27:15 PM »

I have been there every day fo a week now. Garf, answer your mail there.re hope they don't lose it all. Some albums have well over 300 pictures in them. That's a big loss my friend. Also WD, John is hidin over there. He ain't usin Namvet. Caught ya John or should I call you "Sl#%^@*ter. GOTCHA. ROTFLMAO

"Billy G"

W.D. Roland · « **Reply #36 on:** August 10, 2011, 05:08:16 PM »

LOL!

Will try to make it there tonight.
First have to make the Australian/Kalifornia connection.

Garf · « **Reply #37 on:** August 10, 2011, 06:00:18 PM »

Quote from: Bill Gruby on August 10, 2011, 03:27:15 PM

I have been there every day fo a week now. Garf, answer your mail there.re hope they don't lose it all. Some albums have well over 300 pictures in them. That's a big loss my friend. Also WD, John is hidin over there. He ain't usin Namvet. Caught ya John or should I call you "Sl#%^@*ter. GOTCHA. ROTFLMAO

"Billy G"

I can find no unanswered mail on the site. Is it in the thread or on the PM service?

Garf · « **Reply #38 on:** August 10, 2011, 06:42:43 PM »

This is all I could find from you. I'm going to post an official welcome for refugees from the B.O.T.R site on Hangar Flying site.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I posted this site on the Brotherhood Chat Room last night. Lets see what happens.

"Billy G"

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #39 on:** August 10, 2011, 06:43:49 PM »

It's n the PMs. My outbox says it's still not opened or read.

"Billy G"

Garf · « **Reply #40 on:** August 10, 2011, 07:12:27 PM »

I checked the entire system. It never went thru. As moderator, I can't access your PM's that haven't been delivered.

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #41 on:** August 10, 2011, 11:38:17 PM »

Quote from: Garf on August 10, 2011, 07:12:27 PM

I checked the entire system. It never went thru. As moderator, I can't access your PM's that haven't been delivered.

You had better ck your security system. I was there tonight and it it still in my outbox and has now been read. If it has been read and was addressed to you, only you can read it. Don't know what is goin on over there Phil but 2 + 2 is not equalling 4.

"Billy G"

John Stiles · « **Reply #42 on:** August 11, 2011, 05:37:01 AM »

Quote from: Bill Gruby on August 10, 2011, 03:27:15 PM

............. Caught ya John or should I call you "Sl#%^@*ter. GOTCHA. ROTFLMAO

"Billy G"

So....who's G-4??

GOTCHU2 ROFLMBO!

John Cralley · « **Reply #43 on:** August 11, 2011, 06:53:12 AM »

Well, Dee Rice says that they have pretty much given up on recovering anything to speak of from the original site. They are planning on getting something going again maybe using the same forum software that they used before. They still do not have a host for the forum and they want to be absolutely certain that any new host has a 100% backup going to insure recovery from future disastrous crashes!!

That is about as much as I know (as of Aug 10th).

Meanwhile, start thinking about the 4th Annual Ringmaster Fly-A-Thon!! It will be October 1st and 2nd and a flier of informatio0n is attached.

John

John Stiles · « **Reply #44 on:** August 11, 2011, 07:48:33 AM »

Quote from: John Cralley on August 11, 2011, 06:53:12 AM

Well, Dee Rice says that they have pretty much given up on recovering anything to speak of from the original site.

John

I reckon I better see if I can find my old backup disc for my albums. $:-\$

W.D. Roland · « **Reply #45 on:** August 11, 2011, 10:30:03 AM »

Quote from: John Stiles on August 11, 2011, 07:48:33 AM

I reckon I better see if I can find my old backup disc for my albums. $:-\$

Do you need to borrow a camera?

Garf · « **Reply #46 on:** August 11, 2011, 03:26:58 PM »

Quote from: Bill Gruby on August 10, 2011, 11:38:17 PM

You had better ck your security system. I was there tonight and it it still in my outbox and has now been read. If it has been read and was addressed to you, only you can read it. Don't know what is goin on over there Phil but 2 + 2 is not equalling 4.

"Billy G"

Doesn't sound good. I'd better have Admin. look into it.

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #47 on:** August 15, 2011, 08:29:58 AM »

This is the latest as of this morning from Dee Rice to me.

"I think we can have it up and running this week............David S. and Richard G. and I am working on it.'

"Bro Dee"

No promise there but good news anyway.

"Billy G"

W.D. Roland · « **Reply #48 on:** August 15, 2011, 10:20:36 AM »

Best News I have heard in awhile

Richard Grogan · « **Reply #49 on:** August 15, 2011, 09:22:28 PM »

I am getting the domain name transfered. It may take up to a week to get it finalized, then we will rebuild the site.Thanks for your patience, I will let you all know where we are at, as info becomes available.Hang in there folks!

Author Topic: UPDATE-Brotherhoodofthering.info is...... UP! (Read 7351 times)

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