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Title: Unknown Combat plane
Post by: Ara Dedekian on May 19, 2023, 04:53:09 PM


       I looked through some of Al Ferraro's classic Combat videos trying to ID this plane and came up empty.

       There's no apparent damage. I found no evidence of it's being flown. It's a great rehab winter project. I'd like to see plans or the box art to determine what the shrouds on the top and bottom looked like.

       Ara
Title: Re: Unknown Combat plane
Post by: Robert Zambelli on May 19, 2023, 05:32:52 PM
Dar Wing?
Title: Re: Unknown Combat plane
Post by: Dan Berry on May 19, 2023, 06:30:45 PM
Not a Darwing

I would say Dmeco Sportwing.
Mark Troutman recently built a Sportwing.
Title: Re: Unknown Combat plane
Post by: Dan Berry on May 19, 2023, 06:32:47 PM
Confirmed by looking at the picture of Mark's plane.
A Sportwing. For Stunt, not a combat plane.
Title: Re: Unknown Combat plane
Post by: Tony Drago on May 19, 2023, 06:40:13 PM
 Debolt Sport wing
Title: Re: Unknown Combat plane
Post by: Ara Dedekian on May 19, 2023, 08:01:02 PM

         Thanks everyone,

                Got the plans from Outerzone, it's a 1949 design. So there's my Brodak 2024 Old Time Stunt entry. Looks like I have to add some structure back. Plans show it set up for clockwise flight.

         Ara
Title: Re: Unknown Combat plane
Post by: Steve Helmick on May 21, 2023, 02:05:29 PM
Quote from: Ara Dedekian on May 19, 2023, 08:01:02 PM
         Thanks everyone,

                Got the plans from Outerzone, it's a 1949 design. So there's my Brodak 2024 Old Time Stunt entry. Looks like I have to add some structure back. Plans show it set up for clockwise flight.

         Ara

If it's like the other DeBolt designs, they typically have lots of wing offset and no tipweight, making them very sketchy on takeoff when flown CCW. Some guys flew All American Sr. in OTS with a Fox .35 Stunt with a reverse rotation crank and a pusher prop, flying CCW, to fix the takeoff problem. At least measure the asymmetry and make a plan.  H^^ Steve
Title: Re: Unknown Combat plane
Post by: Ara Dedekian on May 22, 2023, 12:58:01 PM
Quote from: Steve Helmick on May 21, 2023, 02:05:29 PM
If it's like the other DeBolt designs, they typically have lots of wing offset and no tipweight, making them very sketchy on takeoff when flown CCW. Some guys flew All American Sr. in OTS with a Fox .35 Stunt with a reverse rotation crank and a pusher prop, flying CCW, to fix the takeoff problem. At least measure the asymmetry and make a plan.  H^^ Steve

      Steve,

           I have some Fox 35 reverse cranks and TopFlite white plastic pusher props from an estate (I know, I know; I've read the warnings on here). Always wondered what they were intended for. The wing I have was built for CCW flight with the leadouts on the left and some tip weight. Could be a fun project installing the reverse components.

      Ara
Title: Re: Unknown Combat plane
Post by: Dennis Adamisin on May 22, 2023, 01:46:48 PM
Measure the Sportwing, pretty sure its NOT assymetircal span

As for the lefty turning Fox, build an All American Senior - and have a blast!  Mine's electric, so the reverse rotation was easy.  Boring-easy to take-off.  Since I put it on Spectra I've been experimenting with INBOARD tip weight to try to counteract the effect of the extreme assymetry (3.5" I think)