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Title: Ultimate Peacemaker
Post by: Garf on August 28, 2007, 11:48:07 AM
I just ran across something interesting. A 4 engined giant peacemaker with 4 diesels. The british love their peacemakers and their diesels.

http://controlline.org.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2512
Title: Re: Ultimate Peacemaker
Post by: Tim McTigue on August 29, 2007, 05:25:41 AM
That would be one heck of a project, just to get it in the air...  :o

Thanks for posting it - I love seeing unique stuff.
Title: Re: Ultimate Peacemaker
Post by: rustler on August 29, 2007, 02:06:25 PM
That would be one heck of a project, just to get it in the air...  :o

There's a post on the Barton site implying some blood was spilt getting it in the air!!  ~^
Title: Re: Ultimate Peacemaker
Post by: minnesotamodeler on August 29, 2007, 02:40:51 PM
Don't let Frank Carlisle see it!

--Ray
Title: Re: Ultimate Peacemaker
Post by: Garf on August 29, 2007, 10:53:06 PM
That would be one heck of a project, just to get it in the air...  :o

There's a post on the Barton site implying some blood was spilt getting it in the air!!  ~^
Trying to start 4 diesels on the same airplane? I wouldn't doubt it.
Title: Re: Ultimate Peacemaker
Post by: George on August 30, 2007, 01:19:30 AM
Trying to start 4 diesels on the same airplane? I wouldn't doubt it.

What, four flips?   ;D

George
Title: Re: Ultimate Peacemaker
Post by: Garf on August 30, 2007, 10:54:17 AM
I have yet to see a first flip start on a diesel. I suppose it does happen on FAI team racers.
Title: Re: Ultimate Peacemaker
Post by: john e. holliday on August 30, 2007, 01:28:10 PM
Starting diesels is really not that ######### they are set.  Especially the sport type diesels.  I sold a 29 size diesel that had lain around for 30+ Years.  After cleaning and mounting to test stand, it started on third flip.  It is when you try to get that last little bit out of the engine that sometimes makes them hard to start.  I also have an old McCoy .049 that started on just a half dozen flips.  Just remember that diesels like to surprise you once in awhile by starting when you don't expect it.  Have fun,  DOC Holliday
Title: Re: Ultimate Peacemaker
Post by: Garf on August 30, 2007, 11:04:58 PM
The real trick is trying to contain the ether.
Title: Re: Ultimate Peacemaker
Post by: Michael Boucher on September 03, 2007, 08:36:10 AM
Can get the ether out of a spray can of starter fluid.  John Deer is suppose to have the most ether in their starter fluid. H^^
Title: Re: Ultimate Peacemaker
Post by: George on September 06, 2007, 09:53:32 AM
Guess my comments were among the posts that disappeared.

Note that the Ultimate Peacemaker is powered by Olivers. Olivers, for the younger guys who do not know, are good running, easy handling diesels. I have an Original, and a CS copy Mk-3 .15. Both start easily and run well.

Back in the fifties, when I got my original, there was an approximately three month waiting list to get one. I was fortunate that my LHS got one for another guy who cancelled...only took me about a month. They were and are that good.

Oliver also made a 1.5 and 3.5, but I have no experience with those. But one or two flip starts is not out of the question.

George
Title: Re: Ultimate Peacemaker
Post by: Annette Elmore on September 06, 2007, 10:40:41 AM
It is said that an Oliver Tiger will start if you just blow on it!

I'm fed up I missed seeing this fly at the Nats.....

Tom Hughes had a model at the Nats (a Dominator combat wing) with a Frog 2.49bb - that too had not been run for 30 years and started third flip.

Diesels are the same as glows - some are easy to start others are pigs - worn out ones (of either type) often tend to be pigs.

Tony
Title: Re: Ultimate Peacemaker
Post by: George on September 06, 2007, 07:28:03 PM
Actually, I haven't run my Frog 2.49bb's lately either.

For those who don't know the engines we speak of, first pic has real Oliver Tiger on left, CS Oliver with prop. Second pic is three Frog 2.49BB's.