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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Russell Shaffer on March 23, 2011, 06:15:55 PM
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We know who built the World's Best Flite Streak - how about some Twister photos to give me some ideas and inspiration? I know there are some high zoot Twisters around. I'm posting mine just to get it started. They fly fine but aren't pretty and I would like to do better. The yellow one is a Sig kit with an extended fuselage replacing the many times broken original, the red one is scratch built, pretty much stock except for the fuselage length.
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My Fancher/Twister in mock up. DS 40 Classic power. LG from defuct Cardinal ARF. CLC/Morris controls, Polyspan and silkspan with auto base coat / clear coat finish. Should be a good flyer, but a lot of work for a profile.
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Another photo....
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I crashed it, alas, after three years. Adjustable leadouts, longer tail moment, half ribs, shaped wing tips, doubled control horns, tom morris cranker, carbon fiber pushrod, 1/8" ply doublers, extend motor mounts and so forth. Turned great after it was trimmed. The stock FP40 had an extra head gasket and .283 venturi. Engine was loud (tongue muffler) lots of power and useful break. Set the needle and pretty much left it alone for three years. Kind of engine run that turned heads. Which is what got me in trouble. Flying in 40 degree weather I heard a burp in hourglass which usually means cut off next figure. Since I had fully filled the tank, and the tank had never run dry early in all this time, I thought WTF. Go for it. Engine cut out in the second cross of the overhead eight. How do you save the plane when it's going as slow as it will go and it's directly overhead? Hmm. Thinking about that, putting in a show no help run, splat, almost straight down. Wing is split. Repairable, of course. The cold weather meant denser air, guess it used more fuel. Listen to the burp.
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I built a couple twisters, fancherized of course.
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The cool thing about the Twister is that it can built to resemble almost anything. It's such a simple looking design yet few other profiles will out perform it in the air. One the all time great models!
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Out of curiosity one day, also in response to an Al Rabe remark, I checked the Twister airfoil next to a Mustant. Virtually identical. I believe Al Rabe maintained that the Twister was Mustunt inspired. Al Rabe numbers should work. I know at least one top ten flier who gets sentimental about the plane. Actually thinks it a travesty of sorts to violate the outlines of the original. Did I miss something. The stock outline looks doggy to me. Mike Palko flew his way into Advanced using a stock Twister and a stock Fox 35.
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Some nice looking Twisters here, here's mine, basically stock but I moved the tail back 1.5" it has a LA .25, weighs 37 oz. and is a great flier.
Thanks
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Here is my Twist-Stang.
It was built to crash.... very heavy. This was a rebuild after my first figure 9. Then someone put it on a scale and it was a porker. HB~> It flew OK.
It is a hanger queen now. :'(
I might take it down one day and see if I can shave a few pounds off of it.
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Mark, the green one looks much like the one Mr. Helmick is flying? These all look better than mine. Interesting that the 25 does well.
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Interesting that the 25 does well.
Hi Russell
The LA .25 has more or the same horsepower that most of the old .35's that were available back when the Twister was designed, it swings a 10X5 at 9.500-10.000 rpm with no problems at all wich is more than enough to pull a Twister in any conditions I've flown in.
Thanks
Dwayne
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This is the TwistMaster, built in 2000 and still flying although I no longer own it. Fancher numbers but built to look as much like a Ringmaster as I could with what I started with. This airplane got me well into Advanced with a Saito 40.
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Mark, the green one looks much like the one Mr. Helmick is flying? These all look better than mine. Interesting that the 25 does well.
Russell, the one Steve is flying was built by Mike Haverly, neither of mine are flyable anymore. the red white and blue one I built for Dave Miller, I heard it became small pieces. My green one was flown into the ground several times at varying angles. The last time it fractured the wing spars inside the fuse, not repairable IMHO, It was retired and hangs in my garage. It was my first competition plane and got me into Intermidiate. both were powered by FP .40 engines. They both flew well, though once I got my handle attached to a P-40 Profile ( Pat Johnston- Brodak) I realized while the twisters were good, there were better options out there. That said, the twister , fancherized, Is a durable, honest flying airplane and oh so simple to build,,, well unless your me, and you have to complicate everything!
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Here is the bones of my Twist-Stang- someday I may actually get time to finish it!
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This won the prize for best finished Twister at the 1986 Sig Cl Contest. Balanced at 1 5/8 inches back of the leading edge, it flew very well, won a couple of local Advanced-level contests.
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That is a very beautiful Twister, Jim.
Ain't it something that a simple design (constant chord wing, etc.,) could be built stock, or customized into about anything you want it to look like and still be a great flying model. Even "updated" by following Ted's ideas if wanted.
Bill
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I think this is Ron Burns White Twister, not sure who the Crop duster Twister belongs to, or the red one. One of the best looking Twister Mustangs I ever saw was a picture of I think Tom McClain's? I know I have a picture around here some place.
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Well, here's a couple of photos of my old "Twister Sister", from 20+ years ago. It was
enlarged and used most of the profile "tricks" I thought were worthwhile. A very sweet
model to fly with an old OS .35 FPS, plenty of line tension, and none of the typical Twister
twitchiness (which I cured with a longer nose, while Ted's approach used a longer tail moment).
Although the Twister (kit) has its detractors, the design has held up very well IMO - I think using
a modern engine like the OSFP .35/.40 vs classic stock Fox .35 makes it a noticeably better flapped stunt
trainer. Just my opinion, I think I counted 6 of them I built over the years.
L.
"Be careful what you pretend to be because you are what you pretend to be." -Kurt Vonnegut
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Some of the very nicest Twisters I have ever seen were built by Steve Hoog of
Albuquerque - I think they were all finished in monokote, but had some very artistic
and creative designs..
Can't seem to find any of my photos of them at the moment - I'm sure I have some, among
about 1000 "old style" prints, but would have to sort through boxes of them. Sorry. ;-(
L.
"Too much of a good thing is wonderful." -Mae West
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Hello Russell
Here is mine , I gave her to much paint. I had just re-entered the sport and had to learn some
hard lessons. Sometimes it's best not to stray to far from a design unless your a Veteran
Builder. HB~> HB~> HB~>
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Hey Russell, are you payin attenetion, dude go here!
http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php?topic=21027.0;topicseen
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After "fifty-million-two-hundered and twenty-thousand flights," the wings folded at the bottom of the outside square; Tulsa Glue Dobber's field, 2009 :'(
Norm
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Here is my old Fancherized Twister. All I did was add wingtips. The stab and elevator was enlarged and the fuselage was stretched 2 inches. Phil Spillman is flying it now.
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Did anyone make one into a SU-26? H^^
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Found it !!!
I have not seen a better looking Twist-Stang!
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This is the TwistMaster, built in 2000 and still flying although I no longer own it. Fancher numbers but built to look as much like a Ringmaster as I could with what I started with. This airplane got me well into Advanced with a Saito 40.
Ted LOVES this airplane.
Ted
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One from Steve Helmick.
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Steve H.
What is up front in the "Twister-ish"?
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Here's what a Twister is a semi scale model of...
(http://www.airbum.com/pireps/Stepens1.jpg)
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Here's what a Twister is a semi scale model of...
(http://www.airbum.com/pireps/Stepens1.jpg)
I was not aware of that..Thanks H^^
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Steve H.
What is up front in the "Twister-ish"?
No idea, but some sort of 4-4-4 engine. I believe this one is either English or Aussie...I just liked the colored tissue decor, and saved the picture. Orange tissue normally fades almost instantly, but it looks great for awhile. This was the only Twister picture I could find on my confuser after the latest issues...an AV argument with Norton. Tho, I think I may have taken the picture of Mark with his green Twister. Just looked...not that one, but I did take at least one picture of that plane. It was really slick!
Like Mark said, my Twister (currently somewhat broken) was built by Mike Haverly. It has a Magnum XLS .36 in it, and weighs 47 or 48 oz, which is about 10 oz too many. It was tailheavy, even with an OS .46LA muffler and an aluminum spinner. I couldn't tell you where the CG is, but now it's just right. Due to the weight, I had to change the control ratios to 1:1 flap/elevator. It got me forced into Advanced, too. No idea why. :-\ Steve
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Steve H.
What is up front in the "Twister-ish"?
Looks like an OS FS 30 to me
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I have a flapless Twister powered by a GMS .32. I'm using an Evo venturi and an OS spraybay bar, along with the stock RNVA. Its a real porker at 46 oz. Tried flying it on a .25 last year, but had issues with that engine. If the .32 doesn't work I have an Evo .36 that looks like the mtg holes are the same, might try that.
Steve
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Anybody else have any twister pics.
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Here is mine. Fancherized Twister, will have an LA .40 for power. I got it to this stage about 4 years ago, showed it at the club meeting, and then haven't touched it since. I am now getting it finished to make room for other projects and to make my first serious attempt at a silkspan and dope finish. This picture was testing some color schemes for Tom Niebuhr to make stencils for. I don't quite like the arrow...the "6" on the tail looks good and the rest of the lettering/colors are super secret and very cool (if I may say so myself...:).
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Very nice looking airplane, David. It also gives a whole new meaning to the description "bones". Put it together and get it flying!
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Twister picture? I would be happy to see the box. I ordered a Twister on the 29th of last month. It still isn't here today, the 11th of April. I called twice and was told the order hadn't come in yet. :(