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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Bob Hunt on June 02, 2022, 06:11:48 AM
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Here's a couple of photos of my new electric powered, retract equipped, Turning Point twin in the paint shop. This one is a departure for me in that its base color is a Porsche Cream instead of the usual white. It has my standard dark metallic brown with red overtones main trim. The spinners will also be painted with the metallic brown. In the photos the simulated canopy has just been applied and it is a custom mixed metallic pewter color. The next thing (today) is the red accent stripes and hopefully the AMA numbers and the name (stencils courtesy of Jim Vigani). Should have it ready for clear by Monday...
This one uses the Robart mechanical retracts instead of the E-Flite electric units. The mechanicals are operated by very small, high torque, digital, programmable servos, and the all up weight of all three retracts units with servos is about 2 ounces less than the three electric retract units was in my Second Wind twin. The estimated all-up weight of this one is 59 to 61 ounces.
It features a triple cored and balsa sheeted foam wing, sheeted foam flaps, and sheeted foam stabilizer and elevators.
Later - Bob
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Very cool Bob, hope to see it in person in July :)
James
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very nice Bob, cant wait to see if fly.
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Looks great Bob!! Looking forward to seeing it
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WOW!
That’s enough to make me go to the dark side. BEAUTIFUL
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Stunning!
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Thanks for the kudos you guys. It should really pop with the addition of the red accents and the lettering. I'll post again some photos at that point.
Later- Bob
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Hi Bob,
The color selection is very elegant...and it gives a special "retro" look...
Just lovely...
Later,
Claudio.
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That's a work of masterful art Bob! Love it!
Bill
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WOW!
That’s enough to make me go to the dark side. BEAUTIFUL
Actually, Bob is a Sith Lord. I have never seen a Bob Hunt design that I did not love.
Ken
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Not only gorgeous but wicked looking too. D>K
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That is a Next Level Stunt model right there!
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So much work goes into these things, it's pretty amazing to see one come to life.
Motorman 8)
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each and every of Bob´s designs are "mey next build" kind of model, just get better every time
classy & elegant
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Nicely Done Bob!!!!
You are truly a Master Craftsman. 👍🏼👍🏼
I hope it lands on the front row.
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Thanks again, guys... And Paul, I just hope it lands... with the wheels down! LL~ LL~ LL~ n~
Bob
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Thanks again, guys... And Paul, I just hope it lands... with the wheels down! LL~ LL~ LL~ n~
Bob
You should get bonus point when they drop. 🤣🤣🤣
Or at least for the cool factor. 👍🏼
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Beautiful workmanship as always. I dig the design as well.
Derek
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It’s sure going to look good doing the NEW clover!
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It’s sure going to look good doing the NEW clover!
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Fantastic looking plane Bob.
by the way, is that a tail end of an F3A ship in the back ground of one of your pictures?
Carl
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Fantastic looking plane Bob.
by the way, is that a tail end of an F3A ship in the back ground of one of your pictures?
Carl
Hi Carl:
Thanks, and yes that is the tail end of a Nuance F3A ship. It belongs to my son, Brian.
Bob
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It's so classy and beautiful now!! All the other stuff you have to do will make it much more so!! What outstanding work you do Bob!!
Doug
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It's so classy and beautiful now!! All the other stuff you have to do will make it much more so!! What outstanding work you do Bob!!
Doug
Thanks Doug, Derek, and Carl for the encouraging words! I really hate painting these things. Something can go wrong at any time and ruin the whole effect. So far, so good, but the progress has been slowed down by a bad cold (no, not Covid...). I'm pretty certain that this one will not be done and flown in time for the Nats. I'm planning on flying the Wildfire twin there this year. I really wanted to fly the Turning Point with the retracts, but such is life...
I'm posting a photo of what the Turning Point looked like in bare wood, and one of the Wildfire as well.
I'm very happy that everyone likes the new paint scheme. But, I did retain the dark metallic brown!
Later - Bob
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Thanks Doug, Derek, and Carl for the encouraging words! I really hate painting these things. Something can go wrong at any time and ruin the whole effect. So far, so good, but the progress has been slowed down by a bad cold (no, not Covid...). I'm pretty certain that this one will not be done and flown in time for the Nats. I'm planning on flying the Wildfire twin there this year. I really wanted to fly the Turning Point with the retracts, but such is life...
I'm posting a photo of what the Turning Point looked like in bare wood, and one of the Wildfire as well.
I'm very happy that everyone likes the new paint scheme. But, I did retain the dark metallic brown!
Later - Bob
Did you take the design ques from the A-10 Warthog?
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You are very perceptive Mr. Sparky! Yes, I did take a lot of the design elements from the Warthog (Thunderbolt II actually...). Certainly the rudders are stylized Warthog units. There are number of full-scale airplanes with design elements that could easily be incorporated into a CL Stunt design. One I have my eye on is the Canadien version of the OV-10 A Bronco. They call it the Icarus. It is just stunning. Probably a very tough subject to capture in a Stunt model because of the twin booms (heavy...), and the high tail placement (maybe doable...), but wow would it be different.
Later - Bob
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Bob, what material is the covering? looks absolutely perfect
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Hi Fred:
Not sure what covering you are referring to. If it is the wing sheeting, well that's really light (4-pound stock) balsa.
Later - Bob
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Did you take the design ques from the A-10 Warthog?
Here's what could have gotten Bob a-thinking.
Ara
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I just have to say WOOOWWW!
The curve lines you create with such harmony is a pleasure for the eyes!
Martin
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Hi Fred:
Not sure what covering you are referring to. If it is the wing sheeting, well that's really light (4-pound stock) balsa.
Later - Bob
my bad, i thought you had covered the wing with something like sylkspan etc. but then you reminded me that your planes are all sheeted surfaces ( to perfection i must say)
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I just have to say WOOOWWW!
The curve lines you create with such harmony is a pleasure for the eyes!
Martin
You have hit on the best part of a Bob Hunt design - the lines. This one may exceed even Bob's level of design perfection. They beg to be flown and even more, they beg to be judged. I hope someone gets a decent video of this one in the air.
The names always seem to fit the plane as well. Only one that I didn't like was the "Second Wind". I will never forgive him for getting there first! LL~
Ken
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Thanks, Martin, for that amazing description of the lines of my model! It has always been all about the aesthetics of the model for me. I grew up influenced by such great designers as Larry Scarinzi, Red Reinhardt, Bill Simons, Jim Kostecky, Dave Gierke, Bill Werwage and Les McDonald (among many others...). I've always said that a model should look as though it had been sculpted by the wind.
And Ken, about the name Second Wind... LOL! That name came from three different places in my mind. I had just come back from a short sabbatical from stunt flying when I designed and built that ship. I had some terrible back issues for about a year, stemming from a broken back in my youth. So it was a sort of "second wind" for me in flying stunt. Also, with two motors and two props the model had literally a "second wind" producer on board. But, the real reason was the fact that my brother, Jim's Baptist Church group in North Carolina had committed to rebuilding 500 homes that were destroyed during the hurricane Katrina. They supplied all the materials and all the labor at no cost, and they set up a rotating work force that was billeted in an old armory at the gulf. My brother invited me to go down to Gulfport, Mississippi with one of the work groups for a week, and I gladly accepted. It was a wonderful experience and we all received T-shirts with the name "Project Second Wind" on the back. That did it for me; the new twin would be named the Second Wind. So, blame Katrina for me getting to that name before you old buddy.
But, Ken, I know what you mean about someone getting to something before you do. I'll never forgive Les McDonald for designing the Stiletto before I had a chance to. (Yeah, like that was going to happen...) I loved all the Stiletto designs, but especially the Stiletto 700. And, those various Stilettos placed ahead of my various Genesis designs more often than not. In my mind the Stiletto is one of the most beautiful stunt models of all time. But don't tell Les I wrote that...
I have a new twin design on the board that makes the Turning Point twin look a bit like a boxcar. Alas it will have to wait its turn on the building board until the Turning Point is done.
Later - Bob
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Bob
you got to lone BJ Craft models. Great ships.
Flew a Biside for a couple years. Beautiful flying model..
I heard that BJ has got a CL pattern plane in the works....................
Carl
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Praise to you Bob Hunt. The Stunt ARTIST. Innovating still. Construction no doubt immaculate. AND light.
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Praise to you Bob Hunt. The Stunt ARTIST. Innovating still. Construction no doubt immaculate. AND light.
Wow! The check's in the mail Dennis...
Yeah, it is light for sure. All the pieces parts painted (without the motors, battery, ESCs, etc.) weigh 32 ounces. The quick math yields a 60 ounce or so finished product. That's 10 ounces less than the Second Wind, which had far less wing area and much smaller flaps, and it still flew very well. The extra wind blast from the twin's prop span (18 to 20 inches...) make the twins fly "light."
You still planning on coming up for that fuselage designing session? I'm ready when you are.
Later - Bob
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Bob
you got to lone BJ Craft models. Great ships.
Flew a Biside for a couple years. Beautiful flying model..
I heard that BJ has got a CL pattern plane in the works....................
Carl
Brian bought that Nuance from a local flier and it is in very good shape. I'll probably get back into RC Pattern flying in the Advanced class at some point to have some quality time with my younger son. Robby (the older son by two years...) and I did a lot of CL Stunt flying together back in the 1990s, so now I owe Brian some time as well. Should be fun. Of course I'll be designing my own RC Pattern ship with a lot of CL thinking in it.
Back in the early 1980s I took a sabbatical from stunt to fly RC Pattern, and designed what was the first Crossfire (see photo below). It incorporated a lot of CL ideas, and the name Crossfire referred to the crossfire of technology between CL and RC. And, when I came back to CL flying in the late 1980s, I brought some RC thinking with me as well, so the first ship back was also named the Crossfire, again to highlight the crossfire of technology between the two disciplines. Actually the first CL Crossfire was really nothing more than a 1980 Genesis with a fin and rudder. I learned from RC that rudders are not necessarily bad things... Who knew? n~
Later - Bob
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Whoa Bobba, that thing is just special.
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Whoa Bobba, that thing is just special.
Thanks, old buddy! I think in the back of my mind I was remembering your Tropicaire (photo attached...), which was done in cream or beige as I remember; very classy! It seemed like time to change up my colors just a bit, so I copied you....
We'll talk soon...
Later - Bob
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Here's a couple of photos of my new electric powered, retract equipped, Turning Point twin in the paint shop. This one is a departure for me in that its base color is a Porsche Cream instead of the usual white. It has my standard dark metallic brown with red overtones main trim. The spinners will also be painted with the metallic brown. In the photos the simulated canopy has just been applied and it is a custom mixed metallic pewter color. The next thing (today) is the red accent stripes and hopefully the AMA numbers and the name (stencils courtesy of Jim Vigani). Should have it ready for clear by Monday...
This one uses the Robart mechanical retracts instead of the E-Flite electric units. The mechanicals are operated by very small, high torque, digital, programmable servos, and the all up weight of all three retracts units with servos is about 2 ounces less than the three electric retract units was in my Second Wind twin. The estimated all-up weight of this one is 59 to 61 ounces.
It features a triple cored and balsa sheeted foam wing, sheeted foam flaps, and sheeted foam stabilizer and elevators.
Later - Bob
Hi again Bob!
If you don't mind, can you tell me (us) what kind and brand of paints do you use for colors and clear coats?
Thanks in advance!
Later,
Claudio.
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as always Bob, just beautiful, and sexy, like a stunt ship should be
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as always Bob, just beautiful, and sexy, like a stunt ship should be
Thanks, Mark!
I owe you a call old buddy. This week is bad for me, but I'll try to remember (hey, I'm 74) to call you next week.
And this is for Claudio:
I have not forgotten your request about the paint I use. I have decided to write up the entire finishing system that I use as it is a bit different than the norm. Again, this is a bad week (taking the Genesis up to Joel Costantino's restoration shop today to spray the clear on it. Then I'll be sanding and buffing and assembling for a few days), but I will finish the write up and post it here soon.
Later- Bob
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Thanks, Mark!
I owe you a call old buddy. This week is bad for me, but I'll try to remember (hey, I'm 74) to call you next week.
And this is for Claudio:
I have not forgotten your request about the paint I use. I have decided to write up the entire finishing system that I use as it is a bit different than the norm. Again, this is a bad week (taking the Genesis up to Joel Costantino's restoration shop today to spray the clear on it. Then I'll be sanding and buffing and assembling for a few days), but I will finish the write up and post it here soon.
Later- Bob
Thank you Bob!
No problem!
You are a Gentleman...
Later,
Claudio.
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Very nice work. What is the model number of the servos you used? That was a great idea.
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Thanks, old buddy! I think in the back of my mind I was remembering your Tropicaire (photo attached...), which was done in cream or beige as I remember; very classy! It seemed like time to change up my colors just a bit, so I copied you....
We'll talk soon...
Later - Bob
As I remember, think it was similar to Diana Crème, Chocolate Brown, and Fokker Red.
A very impressive combination of colors.
Curt