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Title: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Randy Powell on February 21, 2009, 10:55:35 PM: Well, we all about fell over when the Shultzinator showed up at the Narrows today with airplane, more or less ready to fly. First flight he had a problem with the muffler. it came apart and the part of it went into the prop. Prop and needle valve broke and Steve Helmick (sorry Steve) threw a rag into it to kill the engine. Seemed no harm, no foul. So, cleaned up and tried again. It was a little lean, but not bad (couldn't really adjust the needle now). Donnie gave it a try. That last outside loop was just a little low. Result was a broken stab and rudder, a bit of pavement rash and the desperate need for a new canopy. Sorry about that, Don. Certainly repairable. it only took us about a year to get Don out there. Hopefully, he'll fix it up and come out to play again. And let me tell you, guys; Don can still twist a handle.
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Steve Helmick on February 21, 2009, 11:09:04 PM: Actually, it was me that threw the rag into the stubby prop...2nd try...sorry, Schultzie, I'm rusty. Haven't had to do that in about 3 decades, and I wasn't any good at it then. Don says the Chimpunk will be back with a new and much different cowl and canopy, with V-tail and sub-fin. It should look pretty cool! It will have a Randy Aero Tube Muffler and NV assy., and I'm pushin' for a trike gear. New lines and handle, too. Sort of a rebirth. I think that ST .46 will need a freshening up after the the shaft-run. Stunt engines don't like that nonsense. :X Steve
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Tom Luciano on February 22, 2009, 05:36:41 AM: Good to hear Shultzie was out there. Can't wait to read Don's take on the day. He had me in stitches last week giving us the play by play on Valentines day. Don, you crack me up with your colorful writing. LL~

Tom
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Mark Scarborough on February 22, 2009, 10:02:49 AM: Shultzie!
way to go bud,, glad to hear you got some air under your wings, instead of those silly kite things,, lol
LL~ LL~
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Chris McMillin on February 22, 2009, 10:27:20 AM: Donaldo in the Stunt circle is great news. Yeah!
Chris...
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Shultzie on February 22, 2009, 05:36:17 PM: Quote from: Randy Powell on February 21, 2009, 10:55:35 PM
Well, we all about fell over when the Shultzinator showed up at the Narrows today with airplane, more or less ready to fly. First flight he had a problem with the muffler. it came apart and the part of it went into the prop. Prop and needle valve broke and Steve Helmick (sorry Steve) threw a rag into it to kill the engine. Seemed no harm, no foul. So, cleaned up and tried again. It was a little lean, but not bad (couldn't really adjust the needle now). Donnie gave it a try. That last outside loop was just a little low. Result was a broken stab and rudder, a bit of pavement rash and the desperate need for a new canopy. Sorry about that, Don. Certainly repairable. it only took us about a year to get Don out there. Hopefully, he'll fix it up and come out to play again. And let me tell you, guys; Don can still twist a handle.

Folks that say....you never FORGET how to ride a tricycle..or how fly a CLPA stunt pattern are full of S**T or at the very least...very sadly mistaken. LL~

Speaking of YESTERDAYS MISTAKES....WOW! I RAN THE WHOLE NINE YARDS OF MISTAKES.

My makeshift fuel bulb leaked...(THANKS TO PETE FERGESON he had a spare syringe which he GAVE TO ME! WOW!!! That helped a bunch.
Next mistake
was quickly insert an untested sound plug into the front end of my beautiful flow through muffler that served me sooo well........ almost 3O some years ago.

After about 3 minutes of inflight time...that heavy weight, power robbing muffler plug insert popped off and blew foward into the prop, which resulted into a screaming shaft engine run..thus adding about 30 years of wear and tear...INSTANTLY to my beautiful Bob Wilder "tweaked" custom ST46.

(Hummm? Its hard to believe that this model lasted over 33 years and a life filled with sooo many patterns...MOSTLY WITHOUT DAMAGE...UNTIL YESTERDAY!!

If that wasn't enough...I decided to fly some pattern test flying with an OLD MODIFIED HOT ROCK HANDLE...that was out of adjustment. The result naturally made all my insides and corners turn faster and tighter than my outsides.
Instead of flying safely and conservative...KNOWING that the outsides NEED MORE HANDLE INPUT......I EXPERIENCED AN UNFORGIVING LAME BRAIN FARTOLDDO during the outside faze of the second horizonal 8....WHICH ENDED THE LIFE OF THIS TRUSTY OLD EZZZZ FLYING AND USUALLY FRIENDLY AND FORGIVING 34 YEAR OLD CHIPMUNK.....as it IMPACTED the tarmac in almost a FLAT INVERTED 3 FOOT UNDER THE DECK PULL OUT...IN A SHOWER OF PROP-CANOPY-RUDDER AND FLYING STAB AND ELEVATORS, that look more like AN AFTERMAT of a pillow fight from the pits of HELL! VD~

Actually, it seemed that my flying buds were more concerned that I was...and I appreciate all their help and support...helping me clean up my TARMAC GARAGE SALE!
A HUGE VOTE OF THANKS to MIKE-PETE-N-REPETE..FOR THE FREEBEE'S...a borrowed handle run away strap, hotter plug and that great fuel syringe.
Also a huge thanks to Steve and Randy for Pit crew assistance and jump starting my flight to HELL IN A HANDBASKET!
Here are a few shots....of the old Chipmunk in better daze...Tomorrow I will post the BLACK BOX CRASH PHOTOS.

RANDY!PETERSON, STEVE...AND GANG! AREN'T YOU FORTUNATE THAT I DIDN'T TAKE ALL OF U UP ON YOUR GENEROUS OFFER...TO TEST FLY YOUR BEAUTIFUL CLPA MODELS.
HOW LUCKY CAN YA GET???? H^^ VD~ VD~ LL~ LL~ LL~
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Randy Powell on February 22, 2009, 09:42:33 PM: Donnie,

You can fly my plane any time.
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Leo Mehl on February 22, 2009, 10:34:10 PM: I don't like shaft runs either and welcome to the wonderful world of stunt again. At our age it is sorta a pain to have all this stuff happen on the first day but it will get better. It seems when we get older some of our good sence seems to take a holiday. Go a little slower like Steve and thing will get better. Just get out there and do it. Welcome to the old folks world. Loe Uhemmmmmmm I Meant Leo HB~> HB~> HB~>
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Paul Taylor on February 23, 2009, 07:30:21 AM: Hey who are the kids holding the planes? Good to see you people getting into the sport. Wow look at those pants. I guess mom was right. If you wait long enough it will come back in style.
And those kids build better then me!
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Randy Powell on February 23, 2009, 08:31:06 AM: Paul,

Yea. Been awhile since Donnie looked that good. Or any of us, for that matter. ;D
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Shultzie on February 23, 2009, 11:54:57 AM: Quote from: rootbeard on February 23, 2009, 07:30:21 AM
Hey who are the kids holding the planes? Good to see you people getting into the sport. Wow look at those pants. I guess mom was right. If you wait long enough it will come back in style.
And those kids build better then me!

The young man next to old dumboldodonnie with the funny pants is Gary McClellen's son.
Later that day...after the competition...BEING THE THRILL SEEKIN AIR JUNKIE in those days...I put a quick impromt' CHIPMUNK TEAM FLYING DEMO together with all three flyers.

Ben Madsen and I in the past used to fly our Shark 45's and Noblers (or Sting Rays) through a LEAD AND FOLLOW TEAM THANG' which was always a fun and rather EZ thing to do.

We would simply set our engines to run at about the same rpm. I flew with about 4 feet of longer lines that Ben. Naturally, my model with the longer line set would have to run a slightly faster enigine setting..... plus this seem to help the following stunt model flight to be less effected by ever present turbulance from the lead model. However!!!
HOWEVER...
When you ADD THE 3RD MODEL...this starts to make things interesting...UHHH? more risky and exciting.
(ESPECIALLY WITHOUT PREVIOUS PRACTICE SESSIONS.)

Gary's son's model was faster than the rest of us (at first)...which made it interesting. Plus YOUNG KIDS have exceptional reflexes, about half way through the flight....suddenly Gary's model started speeding up...and unfortunately, my Chipmunk with the muffler pressure stayed about the same rpm. The 3rd flyer's Chimpmunk ran out of fuel...and thankfully had to drop out.
What started out as a pretty good LEAD AND FOLLOW Team demo, after a few minutes became more like a RAT RACE OR COMBAT EVENT.
Thankfully all three of our Chippy's survived that ordeal.
Hummm?
When I think back of all the weird stuff that I would try with that Chipmunk...which included attaching a LONG RAINBOW...Thin very thin gauge and light weight 40 foot streamer. First attaching it to the tail wheel stoogie hook...then later wing tip streamers. (I gave up that after the inside streamer got tangled in both the leadouts and so how ended up winding itself around the prop and spinner...which shut that OS 40 down instantly. Thank THE WIND GODS OF STUNT let me land this model on its wheels....INSTEAD OF THAT INVERTED BELOW GROUND LEVEL LANDING LIKE YESTERDAY.

When and IF I live long enought to put this old HUMPITY-DUMB-IT-TEEE CHIPEEE BACK TOGETHER AGAIN...
ANY ONE BRAVE (or dumbolddo enough) to REVIVE A MULTI MODEL STUNT DEMO TEAM FLYING PERFORMANCE?

HEY, WITH THE NEW ELECTRICS..WE COULD EVEN ADD MUSIC AND FLY A BALLET ROUTINE?
(Naturally....the Team members might be asked to wearing matching costumes...
NO LEO!!!
YOU CAN'T WEAR A PURTY BRIGHT ORANGE "TOO-TOO" OR HAWAIIAN SKIRT THANG!!! LL~ LL~
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: john e. holliday on February 23, 2009, 03:23:09 PM: That has to have been a few years ago. Wish I could have been there to watch your flight. DOC Holliday
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Shultzie on February 23, 2009, 04:47:21 PM: SHULTZIE'S CUSTOM V TAILED CHIPPY CONCEPT MODEL... INSTANTLY DESIGNED BY CRASH
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Leo Mehl on February 23, 2009, 05:37:10 PM: Thats a pretty big vent hole in the canopy there my Man. I always liked those tinted canopy,s bet they do get a little brittle after mamannyyyyyy years. I think just polishing it is out of the question. Lesson no. 1 to retread. dont do stuff if thing ain't right. I dont see any tears but I bet it will be a long time before this happens again. I hane been known to do a few things like this from time to time. I have a few airpl;anes at home thad have shorter fins because of my skilful flyin...Or lack of... The trouble with retreads is we think we can jump start the old brain. In my case that is not a good thing. Get the epoxy out and put er back togather so you can have more fun. Oh and watch out for Steve throwing things at your plane. He's not very accurate an he probably has sore arm fom all this. LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ HB~>
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Howard Rush on February 24, 2009, 01:52:22 AM: And no more starting your wingover from downwind for you.
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Shultzie on February 24, 2009, 10:06:27 AM: Quote from: Howard Rush on February 24, 2009, 01:52:22 AM
And no more starting your wingover from downwind for you.
WING OVERS DOWN WIND??? WHAT WIND? LL~ LL~
That always poses a problem...especially the WIND (what wind?) that morning was virtually DEAD CALM...and changed constantly from one direction or another.

BUTT HIND SIGHT and BOTTOM LINE:
I should have made adjustments to that flying handle BEFORE THAT LAST 2ND ATTEMPT....especially after that first flight attempt feeaaasssco' scene after my muffler cap popped foward and destroyed my needle valve extention and my beloved one of a kind 11-5 EW prop resulting in that horrific VD~ VD~ ENGINE DAMAGING SHAFT RUN.

Now that I have had time to ponder all this...Humm? Sounds like it just might be past time time to dig out my sport kites again..before I can do further damage? LL~ H^^ H^^ n~
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Howard Rush on February 24, 2009, 10:14:35 AM: I was talking to Leo. Twice lately I've seen him start wingovers from the downwind side of the circle and crash. He gets away with that at Delta Park, because what's downwind on the ground is upwind above the trees.
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Mark Scarborough on February 24, 2009, 11:27:52 AM: Don,
now come on, sport kites,, nay good man, I say again NAY,, they dont smell like castor, and they dont make any real manly noise,,,,
no good sir, you are where you belong, in the middle of the stunt circle!
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Randy Powell on February 24, 2009, 11:33:01 AM: Donnie,

Just pick up a P-40 ARF, put that cool ST46 on the front and get out flying. Trust me, you'll be happier. We need you, man.
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Shultzie on February 24, 2009, 11:39:07 AM: LL~ LL~ n~ n~
Howard...Looks like Leo and the Portland gang could use one of those fancy high tech wind vane thinggeeee's you recently invented?

Reeeeallly cool idea
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Shultzie on February 24, 2009, 11:55:55 AM: Quote from: Randy Powell on February 24, 2009, 11:33:01 AM
Donnie,

Just pick up a P-40 ARF, put that cool ST46 on the front and get out flying. Trust me, you'll be happier. We need you, man.

Uhhh? A P-40? ARF? Which one??? I have a good memory but a short one...(uhhh? make that two or more short items.... n~ LL~

Word or caution to all local NW CLPA stunt flyers...(LOCK YOUR HANGER DOORS AT NIGHT?)
OL'SHULTZIE...just might be on the prowl for a snappy quick turning used and abused but flyable muscle-brain retraining stunt machine thang' H^^

STEVE HELMICK...just to think how handy that recent "GIFT CHIP rebuild ARF you gave me...that I kissed off so lightly and then... PAID FORWARD to another CHIP ADDICT...FOR A CHEAP CHIP FIX? VD~ LL~ %^
(gads....after reading this post???Talk about a forcoming serious addiction in my future?
Hinee'sight is alway sooo good.
LL~I should have gleaned onto a Mike Potter canopy at the meeting huh?
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Randy Powell on February 24, 2009, 12:02:31 PM: Donnie,

I was thinking about a Brodak P-40 profile ARF. It's Pat Johnston designed and is a pretty good flier, all things considered. Pat has been flying one in profile class with an OS 46LA and it's a very nice plane to fly. I was thinking of something that would get you into the air quickly and give you something to fly while you considered the rebuild on the Chip or, Heaven forefend, you build a new plane.
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Shultzie on February 24, 2009, 01:01:20 PM: Quote from: Randy Powell on February 24, 2009, 12:02:31 PM
Donnie,

I was thinking about a Brodak P-40 profile ARF. It's Pat Johnston designed and is a pretty good flier,

Thanks...will check it out? Wonder if he will take my new Silver Fox high tech sport kite in trade? LL~ LL~
just razzzin, I think? LL~ ::) HB~>
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: ptg on February 24, 2009, 05:26:45 PM: SH^ Oh NO Mr. D..

Over the years of stunt flying and just looking at a whole lot of airplanes there are only three that have served as a constant inspiration. There was Jim Kostecky’s "Formula S" for its artistry and adventure; Windy’s "Red Baron", for its simple elegance and quality of finish and this Chip for its execution of your incredible artistry and craftsmanship. At first look you might think its just another red, white and blue Chipmunk stunt thingy. For me, it is the definitive study of individual artistic talent. In years past I attempted to copy some of its elements but I just couldn't execute well. For those who have seen the Chip up close and personal, especially it its prime you know what I'm talking about. I remember some of your other planes for individual notable details or styling but this is THE AIRPLANE that says, Don Shultz. It is the style, personality and artistry of the person, the man and my friend!!

OK, enough sappy stuff! We're all waiting to see you carve out its "Evolution"? Take your time and surprise us!
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Shultzie on February 24, 2009, 10:38:58 PM: WOW! PHIL!
It's hard to believe its been almost 34 years...since we've cut holes in the sky together both at the Boeing Aerospace back parking lot...and hangin out at the ol' Carol and Donnies little crib starter house near Federal Way.
Yes...that old Chip really dates things and puts time into perspective...that hummin'beings really have so little time here on earth.
Thanks for always being there for Carol and I during those sometimes mean and lean years. You have soooooooooooooooooooooo many friends here in the NW that really miss your friend ship, humor and zest for life.

Again...Thanks Phil for all that SAP N ZAP! Speaking of ZAP! I ran out tonight and bought a bunch of expoxy...and instant glue and micro balloonies for a quick FIX.

how bout a couple of crash photos...just to get me pumped up to start hackin and whackin? LL~ VD~
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Peter Ferguson on February 25, 2009, 12:08:53 AM: Don, I have a Cardinal/LA.40 I will keep in the van for you. It's not fancy but it flies well. So keep showing up with your sunglasses and flying shoes on.
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Tom Luciano on February 25, 2009, 08:08:51 AM: Look at that picture of the young boy. Take notice how everyone was SO dressed to go to a model airplane meet. Looks like the guy with the sunglasses wearing the tie is ready to go mix it up with his VooDoo.
Amazing!!

Tom
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Shultzie on February 25, 2009, 09:48:48 AM: Quote from: Peter Ferguson on February 25, 2009, 12:08:53 AM
Don, I have a Cardinal/LA.40 I will keep in the van for you. It's not fancy but it flies well. So keep showing up with your sunglasses and flying shoes on.

PETE!
AGAIN...THANKS! For all your assistance last week end... and that great new fuel fillin freebee! I love it.
Yes...that Cardinal...and engine, in your hands..is one sweeeeeeet flyin machine.
Uhhhh? Bye the waaaaaaaaaaaay....I recognize you and that airplane...but???
who is that stoogiewoogie what's his name..doing pit dooty with you in this photo?
That spectater-tot behind you guys...looks familiar?? Rembrandtski Randeedandy or somethin' like that....(at my age of demencia' names come n' go LL~ LL~
Even the thought of making a garage sale scene on the tarmac at the Narrows..with your generous offer to let me fly that beautiful model shown here...humm?
(frightens the "Attends off my butt!)
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Richard Grogan on February 25, 2009, 10:33:07 AM: Here ya go Donaldo! These came apart in air, but you can use your imagination LL~ and don't feel all alone.. :!
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Shultzie on February 25, 2009, 10:43:50 AM: Hey Rich...
NOW THAT A GAGGLE OF GONERS?" Nice models too! From all appearences...It looks like these models might have been practicing for a Stunt Team Demo...and then got all tangled up in the process?
Hummm? How come it HURTS WHEN I LAUGH..when looking at those two photos.. LL~ LL~ j1
LL~
Title: Re: Tough day at the Narrows
Post by: Richard Grogan on February 25, 2009, 10:53:16 AM: Naww they all came apart in OTS or PAMPA stunt competition. It was last years Roundup. The one black and yeller one(with no wings!) was Bill Wilson's that was a elevator horn seperated in flight. Twas straight -in concrete crash! UGLY! HB~> Yours will be a piece of Cake to fix!