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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Derek Barry on July 16, 2010, 12:24:17 PM
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The Top 5 are
Billy Werwage
Doug Moon
Matt Newman
Kenny Stevens
Rich Oliver
I Got 4 out of 5 right!
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Derek, do you know the rest of the top 20?
Good luck to all tomorrow morning.
Edit: Darn you Derek, you beat me by one, I got 3 out of 5 right ;D
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Congrats and best of luck to all the top 5 finalists. Kevin and Paul Ferrell
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The Top 5 are
Billy Werwage
Doug Moon
Matt Newman
Kenny Stevens
Rich Oliver
I Got 4 out of 5 right!
Me, too, but just because I ditto'd yours.
Congrats to Kenny and Matt, first-timers for the Top 5. Somebody take Matt's vital signs tomorrow morning about 7:45, and post them here.
Brett
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Derek,
Thanks for the updates. We are all looking forward to seeing the complete final placing of Advanced and Expert.
I am rooting for Doug and Rich, but all the top five are worthy of the top slot.
We are also looking forward to seeing more pictures.
Who is rookie of the year???
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What happened to old Windy?
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Rookie of the year Buddy Weader he also was in the top ten flying his electric Ryand Eagle a really good package that in my opinion will be copied by many in the near future.
Advance Erick Vigglion
Windy had a flameout in the first loop of the clover in the first round and he decided to pass on his second flight
Sorry for the spelling of the names.
Milton i made my first top twenty and was second on my circle after the first day with a 550 score after that it was all down hill finished 18
Jose Modesto
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Jose,
Congratulations on your top 20 .
I am glad to hear that my old friend Buddy Wieder is Rookie of the year with 9th place. His Ryan's Eagle sure is a winner.
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Yeah, congratulations Buddy on Rookie of the year!!! And 9th place to boot! #^ #^ #^ #^
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Here are the results copied and pasted from SSW.
Bill Werwage 1073.33
Doug Moon 1052.33
Matt Neumann 1052
Kenny Stevens 1051.67
Richard Oliver 1042.67
6. Howard Rush 1036.67
7. Kent Tysor 1026.67
8. Dan Banjock 1025.67
9. Bud Wieder 1023
10. Josias Delgado 1016.67
11. Bob McDonald 1015.67
12. Frank McMillan 1011.67
13. Mike Scott 1009.67
14. Randy Smith 1005.33
15. Allen Goff 999.67
16. Frank Williams 999.33
17. Joe Gilbert 990.67
18. Jose Modesto 981.33
19. Gene Martine 980.33
20. Windy Urtnowski 442.67
With the score Billy had, that's an average of at least a 536.665 :o :o
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Outstanding! H^^
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Milton i made my first top twenty and was second on my circle after the first day with a 550 score after that it was all down hill finished 18
Jose Modesto
You most certainly did!!! I was just as excited for you as when Phil Granderson finally won the Nats in combat. (Sorry guys,Jose and I are going way back here).
Top five for you next!!
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While none of the top five are a big surprise it was neat to contemplate my memories of the guys other than Billy (will he ever take up rocking chairs!). It's going to be tough but if Billy gets beat it is as apt to be any one of the other four because they are all more than capable.
I think back to a lot of top five flyoffs that I've witnessed and remember a lot of amazing flights by the "usual" names. What is really cool about this list (save the included legend) is that I pretty much have memories of each of them flying patterns as sharp and memorable as those from all those top five flyoffs.
Sort of proves the value of having a Nats where the "expected" crew is away climbing other mountains. Although there have been many debates about the "halo" effect (and by and large I've been supportive of the judges doing their job as honestly as possible), the fact remains that none of the "top dogs" are unknown to 99.9% of the judges. Like a Championship fight that goes fifteen rounds without a knockout, it takes an overwhelmingly good performance from a new guy to overcome the routinely excellent flight of the established pilots. IOW, it takes a knockout performance! That is tough to do because the established guys are established for very good reasons...the fly damn well and don't leave a lot of openings for a knockout punch. It's not unfair, it is reality in a subjectively decided outcome. Anything and everything impacts the bottom line.
The value of a Nats like this, with some of the hot shots away, is that it allows the competition to take place without the influence that is inherent to established championship performance. At the end of the day, the outcome of tomorrow's flying has an 80% chance of putting at least one more name into that mix of fliers that are expected to be competitive no matter who shows up.
That is a really good thing.
Ted Fancher
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Good luck Richard and Doug!!! Congrats to all the top 20...
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Gotta give a *shout out* to buddy Kent. 7th is his highest Open placing so far, AFAIK!
Great job, Kent!
Bill
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Congrats to Kenny and Matt, first-timers for the Top 5. Somebody take Matt's vital signs tomorrow morning about 7:45, and post them here.
Brett
Matt was in the top five with us last year Brett........You getting old on us?
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Matt was in the top five with us last year Brett........You getting old on us?
Oh, no, not at all. And, who is "us"? The contest ended about 7:30 in the morning for me!
It is all beginning to run together. 74 hours so far this week, similar every week since September including Thanksgiving and Christmas, things are getting a bit hazy on me.
Brett
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Sort of proves the value of having a Nats where the "expected" crew is away climbing other mountains. Although there have been many debates about the "halo" effect (and by and large I've been supportive of the judges doing their job as honestly as possible), the fact remains that none of the "top dogs" are unknown to 99.9% of the judges.
Werwage won...
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Werwage won...
Because he was, is, and will probably continue to be a significantly more talented pilot than the others.
Kim.
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CONGRATS BILLY!...U KEEP, KEEPIN' ON! WHAT A NATIONALS TREASURE!!!
Here are a few shots that Bob Hunt shared with me a while back...showing our Bill in action with an amazingly beautiful 47 work of art.
Great photos!
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Because he was, is, and will probably continue to be a significantly more talented pilot than the others.
Kim.
I am sure the guys who flew against him will be happy to find that out... I guess it was just a race for second?
Talk about a halo!
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What halo? It should be a crown for the King of Stunt. I have lost count of how many times I have watched Billy fly when I could. He is just awesome. How many others do we have out there that have flown as many NATS as he has. He is the King in my book. #^ #^ #^
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Because he was, is, and will probably continue to be a significantly more talented pilot than the others.
Kim.
Well, it was close. Here is the scoreboard. All of us fought hard to win it. I had a great time and many many people helped me this year and I cant thank them enough. It was fun and I cant wait to do it again.
Congrats to Billy, Eric, Steve, Frank M., and the other winners.
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What halo? It should be a crown for the King of Stunt. I have lost count of how many times I have watched Billy fly when I could. He is just awesome. How many others do we have out there that have flown as many NATS as he has. He is the King in my book. #^ #^ #^
You either think you can beat him, or think you can't. Either way, you're right.
Brett
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Well, it was close. Here is the scoreboard. . . .
Wow, the scores make it clear a sneeze here or a burp there would have re-shuffled the placings -- for all five of you :o. I doubt that inferential statistics could find a significant difference anywhere.
How many appearance points did each of the top five get, anyone know?
Larry Fulwider
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That is close. Less then 10 points from first to fourth. And fifth wasn't really that far out. H^^