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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Steve Bakac on November 05, 2017, 03:47:37 AM
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Hi just wondering if anyone knows if Tom is still making the tube takeapart system anymore as they are not shown on his web sight
Cheers Steve
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Steve,
Last I heard Tom was not. However, he may have one or two hanging around. Might be worth just giving Tom a call.
at: 256-820-1983.
Good luck!
CB
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Glue joints have failed on those wing connectors. Use a single-piece alternative.
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Ok thanks for the advice guys I'll come up with something else to use
cheers steve
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Check with Chris Rudd, he is making it for Samantha new plane.
Steve
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Steve,
You may also want to look at Paul Walker's Impact article, his approach was to remove the whole wing and tail feathers. I have used this and it works well, just align as you build and allow for paint between the bolted connections.
Best, DennisT
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This might depend on the purpose of making it take apart. If it is to transport on an airliner this method no longer breaks it down small enough to meet currents regs. The wings have to come apart.
Dave
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Hi just wondering if anyone knows if Tom is still making the tube takeapart system anymore as they are not shown on his web sight
Cheers Steve
Bucky, have you checked Herbie Hanna?
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Dave. This is only a local rule for USA domestic travel.
I know this because when going international the planes (oversized cargo) get taken on a different plane. This is how much luggage gets lost for fliers.
It sucks if your in the USA because you cant really go domestic then international with a large item unless you depart from an international terminal.
Steve.. give Herb a dingle on the dog and bone
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Thank guys herbs is on to it helping me out
Cheers
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This might depend on the purpose of making it take apart. If it is to transport on an airliner this method no longer breaks it down small enough to meet currents regs. The wings have to come apart.
Dave
Do the airlines no longer take golf club flight bags ?? those are about 60 inches long and will hold many wings, not to mention caskets
Randy
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Randy I don’t know the answer to those questions though I’m sure there are special provision for caskets. Years ago I recall people bringing snow skis on board but haven’t seen that in a while. I flew to the Pasco Nats with a one piece airplane in a crate with a minimal extra charge. But today all the airlines have a spec to say height + width+ length to max of 60”. That’s about the total dimensions of a standard suitcase. When considering this I had thought about boxing all but wing and carrying that on my lap as carry on....that, literally might not fly.
Dave
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Here is what came up on Google.
What is the biggest bag you can check on a plane?
The maximum number of linear inches on a checked bag for most airlines is 62 inches. This means that when you add up the length, width and height of the luggage you intend to check, it should not be more than 62 inches. Most standard suitcases, garment bags and duffel bags measure 62 linear inches or less.
I've been flying to Muncie and back for the last five years. They always look inside the box and are not always careful. I haven't seen them measure my travel box but it is within a half inch of being exactly 62". The controlling dimension (for me) is the length of the fuselage, and it fits diagonally in the box. Wings are about 28" and will fit with the flaps.
As far as I know you can check larger items for a phenomenal fee.
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In a discussion with Kaz a while back he was thinking about breaking the wing at about the outboard half span outside the landing gear. That could make dealing with everything going on in the center section much easier. Then the wing could detach like the early Impact did.
Dave
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In a discussion with Kaz a while back he was thinking about breaking the wing at about the outboard half span outside the landing gear. That could make dealing with everything going on in the center section much easier. Then the wing could detach like the early Impact did.
That was the plan that Ted Fancher came up with, and I think it is a potential winner. The difference is that you left the wing attached to the fuse, leaving you with a 2'x4'1' box, more or less. The key is that it greatly reduces the load on the wing hardware.
Brett
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With a fuse mounted gear design you could move the wing panels split point a little closer to the fuse.
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Randy I don’t know the answer to those questions though I’m sure there are special provision for caskets. Years ago I recall people bringing snow skis on board but haven’t seen that in a while. I flew to the Pasco Nats with a one piece airplane in a crate with a minimal extra charge. But today all the airlines have a spec to say height + width+ length to max of 60”. That’s about the total dimensions of a standard suitcase. When considering this I had thought about boxing all but wing and carrying that on my lap as carry on....that, literally might not fly.
Dave
Well maybe we will find out for sure, but if so then there are no GOLFERs flying, and NO skiers either, not to mention the 1000s of Instrument flight boxes that are over the 60 inch spec, all of these are over 60 inches
I think you will find, they are still taking ALL these large boxes, just sometimes charge for them and sometimes NOT
Randy
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A 2' x 4' x 1' box has a linear dimension of 80". My model travel box is 14" x 9" x 38.5" and everything just barely fits. There are lots of ideas out there but until you do it they are just that, ideas. It ain't that easy. The Yatsenko system is probably the best as it breaks the fuselage into two pieces. That's the way Kaz's Hellcat comes apart but you have to look real close to see the split lines. Kaz brought his Blue Max to the NATS a couple of year's ago it was in a bigger box and it cost him a lot of yen.
I'm building a model now with a fatter fuselage, it will have a fuselage separation similar to the Yatsenko set up. The wings will disassemble with Paul Walker's version of the system that Tom is or was selling.
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The whole issue sure makes a smaller .40 size airplane look attractive for travel purposes. I’m looking at two boxes and just paying an extra baggage fee or two. Either that or you send your plane ahead weeks before as freight and learn to fly it again once you arrive.
Dave
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That was the plan that Ted Fancher came up with, and I think it is a potential winner. The difference is that you left the wing attached to the fuse, leaving you with a 2'x4'1' box, more or less. The key is that it greatly reduces the load on the wing hardware.
Brett
Agree