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Title: Tod lee's engine?
Post by: Claudio Chacon on August 09, 2024, 09:47:59 AM
Hello guys!
What engine is Todd Lee using in his current Nats plane?

Thanks...
Claudio.
Title: Re: Tod lee's engine?
Post by: Dan McEntee on August 09, 2024, 10:12:35 AM
  Ro-Jett 67 on a rear exhaust muffler is what I've been told.

  Type at you later,
   Dan McEntee
Title: Re: Tod lee's engine?
Post by: Claudio Chacon on August 09, 2024, 10:16:08 AM
Thanks Dan!
Title: Re: Tod lee's engine?
Post by: Dave_Trible on August 09, 2024, 11:00:36 AM
And a Dave Trible prop……(who dat?)

Dave
Title: Re: Tod lee's engine?
Post by: Claudio Chacon on August 09, 2024, 11:57:08 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Tod lee's engine?
Post by: Walter Hicks on August 09, 2024, 02:54:57 PM
Congrats Todd on a job well done. Dave, What muffler was Todd using on the 67 and what size, pitch prop and what fuel? I am using the RO Jett 67 and love it.
Title: Re: Tod lee's engine?
Post by: Dave_Trible on August 09, 2024, 03:39:22 PM
Hello Walter.   The prop is 12.25 x 6.4 nominally three blade carbon.   Todd has tweaked it to his liking but that's what comes out of the mold.   Today he was using 12 1/2% Nitro fuel.   Not sure the rest but experience tells me it was 22-23 % oil.  The muffler is a custom carbon fiber one.  He has told me the name of the guy who made it but ..........The run is/was flawless.   The .67 is superb as is the .61 and .76.  The .67 might be the best choice for running on a muffler but they will all do that.   IC lives on- three out of the top five.

Dave
Title: Re: Tod lee's engine?
Post by: Claudio Chacon on August 09, 2024, 04:36:41 PM
Thanks guys for all the info.
Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Tod lee's engine?
Post by: Walter Hicks on August 10, 2024, 01:49:16 PM
Thank you Dave for the information.
Title: Re: Tod lee's engine?
Post by: Brent Williams on August 10, 2024, 05:22:28 PM
What's the realistic weight upper range for this flavor of Stalker Ro-Jett 67 engine?
Title: Re: Tod lee's engine?
Post by: Brett Buck on August 10, 2024, 05:25:13 PM
What's the realistic weight upper range for this flavor of Stalker 67 engine?


     It *is not* a Stalker, it is a RO-Jett 67 LS.

      Brett
Title: Re: Tod lee's engine?
Post by: Brent Williams on August 10, 2024, 05:58:32 PM

     It *is not* a Stalker, it is a RO-Jett 67 LS.

      Brett

Thank you.  I typed Stalker...I meant to type Ro-Jett!  LOL :-[
Mental constipation moment!
Title: Re: Tod lee's engine?
Post by: Dave_Trible on August 10, 2024, 07:04:39 PM
What's the realistic weight upper range for this flavor of Stalker Ro-Jett 67 engine?
  I've had the .61s pretty effectively pull a 75 ounce airplane but realistically I'd try to keep the weight for the .67 under 70 ounces.  An ideal weight for something 670-690 sq. inches and the .67 (IMHO) would be 66-68 ounces.

Dave
Title: Re: Tod lee's engine?
Post by: Brett Buck on August 10, 2024, 07:39:59 PM
Hello Walter.   The prop is 12.25 x 6.4 nominally three blade carbon.   Todd has tweaked it to his liking but that's what comes out of the mold.   Today he was using 12 1/2% Nitro fuel.   Not sure the rest but experience tells me it was 22-23 % oil.  The muffler is a custom carbon fiber one.  He has told me the name of the guy who made it but ..........The run is/was flawless.   The .67 is superb as is the .61 and .76.  The .67 might be the best choice for running on a muffler but they will all do that.   IC lives on- three out of the top five.

Dave


The 61 runs just fine on a muffler, Ted ran it that way for a while on the first Trivial Pursuit using a header muffler and something like a 12.5-5 3- blade. Running the lower revs reduced the performance as expected, but this case did not take any advantage of the weight difference that you could use if you built it for this from the start. The “mistake” version I like was made, apparently  when trying to make it turn a bigger prop with more 4-2 action, the mistake actually making it run faster, reduce the break, with a smaller prop- which is exactly what I would want and why I like it better.

If I was planning on doing like Todd, the 67 is a much better starting point than the 61.

Brett

p. s. As a comparison of the rev difference Todd ran 6+ inches of pitch and I am running 3.75
Title: Re: Tod lee's engine?
Post by: M Spencer on August 11, 2024, 11:03:42 PM
" I'd try to keep the weight for the .67 under 70 ounces.  "

Id try to keep the weight of ANYTHING under 70 ounces .