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Title: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Garf on December 11, 2015, 12:58:30 PM

 

             
I sent an Email to Thunder Tiger and got this reply:


Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Lyle Spiegel on December 11, 2015, 02:18:12 PM


Try these guys.
I purchased Cyclone 11 x5 this year from them. It took awhile, it was on back order, but I did get the order.

contact@hobbyrecreationproducts.com
800-860-3709
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Peter Ferguson on December 17, 2015, 09:32:09 PM
Garf forward you address to me in a PM and I will send you one if you are still looking.  Pferg
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Garf on December 17, 2015, 11:19:00 PM
Thanks anyway, but I have a couple left plus I am currently not flying. I switched to XOAR just before I stopped flying.
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Allen Eshleman on December 18, 2015, 08:42:27 PM
I ordered 3 of these from hobbyrecreation.com Wednesday evening.   They said they had 8 on stock and I could order 3.  My transaction went through.   I just looked now and it says "sold out".
I will know soon if I was fortunate enough to get some.
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Motorman on December 19, 2015, 10:04:04 AM
ZZ Prop said he was planning on a composite copy. Don't know if he ever did but you could check.


MM
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Steve Helmick on December 19, 2015, 09:12:29 PM
ZZ Prop said he was planning on a composite copy. Don't know if he ever did but you could check.


MM

Yes, Mike did say that. Was it this week or last week he posted that? Mike has a full time job, and is still building his speed/racing/combat/stunt ranch. Give him another week or two?   D>K Steve
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Motorman on December 20, 2015, 12:10:18 PM
How popular are these props? A Cyclon is a pretty standard blade, seems something better could be made for stunt with what we know now. I'm using an 11-6 MAS on my Humongous (mostly for the nose weight lol) so I might be tempted to make an 11-4.5 and adjust it post mold to fit many needs.

MM
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Allen Eshleman on December 21, 2015, 10:30:33 AM
Got confirmation that mine are on the way.   
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Allen Eshleman on December 21, 2015, 05:17:37 PM
Wow!  They came today.  Haven't tried for balance yet.
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Bill Johnson on December 22, 2015, 10:46:43 AM
Wow!  They came today.  Haven't tried for balance yet.
\What?!? I ordered mine on the 15th.

OK, tracking says mine have been in the mailbox since yesterday and sure enough, I have them in hand. They look good. Minimal flashing on the blades but the hub will have to be cleaned up prior to balancing. The airfoil design looks good with the thickest point about 35% of cord.
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Steve Helmick on December 22, 2015, 01:54:46 PM
A quick scrape around the edges with a #11 will knock off the flashing. Most I have used required very little balancing. I scrape a little off the top of the heavy blade and buff it up with some 400-600 grit.

If anybody can arrange to bring in these props, it would make a lot of people happy.  I wonder if there is a TT distributor in Canada that we could get them through? Kaz? Randy?   y1 Steve
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Tim Wescott on December 22, 2015, 02:05:06 PM
How popular are these props? A Cyclon is a pretty standard blade, seems something better could be made for stunt with what we know now. I'm using an 11-6 MAS on my Humongous (mostly for the nose weight lol) so I might be tempted to make an 11-4.5 and adjust it post mold to fit many needs.

MM

They seem to work very well with LA 46 and LA 40 engines, for airplanes around 500-550 square inches (maybe more).

I'm not sure how they do outside of that size range.
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Steve Helmick on December 22, 2015, 02:14:39 PM
If a certain 11 time National Champion swears by 11.3" diameter prop for an OS .40VF on 680 sq. in., I'd think the 11" Cyclone would work fine on up to 650" or so. Ask about his experiment with a 9" prop.  :o Steve
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Akihiro Danjo on December 22, 2015, 06:08:33 PM
If anybody can arrange to bring in these props, it would make a lot of people happy.  I wonder if there is a TT distributor in Canada that we could get them through? Kaz? Randy?   y1 Steve

Probably YOSHIOKA (Yoshioka Model Factory brand) have been still producing their original props, not the copied ones, here in Japan though they are much expensive than the copied ones.

Aki
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Steve Helmick on December 24, 2015, 01:15:48 PM
Akahiro, to be totally clear, you're saying that Yoshioka once made propellers and Thunder Tiger copied them and then had them made in PRC? Ouch! 

I looked at the first page of sites Google turned up for Yoshioka Model Factory, but their site doesn't show any propellers, just a few R/C kits and a lot of toys. So, I Googled TT and sent an email to them. Their website doesn't show much but R/C cars and helicopters. We'll see if they respond.  :o Steve
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Allen Eshleman on December 25, 2015, 04:02:54 PM
I just finished balancing my three props.  The first one was way off.  The second one was only a little bit off and the third one needed no balancing at all.  If this weather stays crazy warm, who knows?  I might get a chance to try one out yet this winter.  Usually the ground hog (my birthday is on Ground Hog's day) has hibernated by now.  Instead,  there's no sense in it.  In fact, my daffodils, which should come up in March or April, have been fooled by the warm weather and have already come up.

Well, anyway, I have three of the last Thunder Tiger 11x4.5 props.  Wow! Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Akihiro Danjo on December 25, 2015, 06:24:42 PM
I do not have a Yoshioka prop now, so I borrowed a small picture of Yoshioka GlassNylon Prop (and an APC) from an auction site.
Aki
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Steve Helmick on December 26, 2015, 07:57:08 PM
We need somebody in S. Korea or PRC to track down the place that made them for TT!  y1 Steve
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Steve Helmick on December 29, 2015, 07:01:26 PM
Oddly enough, I sent an email to TT's website "info" and got quite a different reply than Phil (Garf). I just said that I wanted to find a way to buy some of the TT Cyclone 11 x 4.5 propellers, and he replied that they had some, but would need to know how many I wanted before he could quote me a price. Fair enough.

Before I tell this guy that I'd like to buy 100 each 11 x 4.5's, are enough people interested in them? Plus, I really don't want to go into business, and would really like somebody who's already in business (Randy Aero?) to contact this guy. I'd also like to get some of the 12.5 x 5's and maybe some 10 x 5.5's. If somebody wants to step up and try to import the props in quantity, I'll provide the guy's name. Anybody?

Does anybody know if John Paris is still going to S. Korea, and could he maybe drop by TT and help this cause?   y1 Steve
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: mike londke on December 29, 2015, 07:41:35 PM
Oddly enough, I sent an email to TT's website "info" and got quite a different reply than Phil (Garf). I just said that I wanted to find a way to buy some of the TT Cyclone 11 x 4.5 propellers, and he replied that they had some, but would need to know how many I wanted before he could quote me a price. Fair enough.

Before I tell this guy that I'd like to buy 100 each 11 x 4.5's, are enough people interested in them? Plus, I really don't want to go into business, and would really like somebody who's already in business (Randy Aero?) to contact this guy. I'd also like to get some of the 12.5 x 5's and maybe some 10 x 5.5's. If somebody wants to step up and try to import the props in quantity, I'll provide the guy's name. Anybody?

Does anybody know if John Paris is still going to S. Korea, and could he maybe drop by TT and help this cause?   y1 Steve
  I'd be in for a dozen.
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Brent Williams on December 29, 2015, 08:44:13 PM
  I'd be in for a dozen.

I would buy a few, maybe several dozen.  Might as well stock up on a part that is proven to work.
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Lyle Spiegel on December 30, 2015, 04:13:26 AM
Very interesting. When I contacted TT they told me to go through their distributor, hobby recreation products. ( see my previous posts). I was able to place an order for pkg of six, as well as individual props. The online order was accepted and I got acknowledgement message props were on back order. I had to wait several months but I did finally recieve the props.
Hope that TT gets message that there is still customers for these props. Maybe Sparky ,Brodak,or RSM, or Randy can work a deal with the distributor
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Steve Helmick on January 13, 2016, 11:05:29 PM
Well, I replied to the guy at TT and said that if they had 10, 50, or 100, I'd take them, but would really like to get them from our USA importer via my Local Hobby Shop. Haven't gotten a reply, so I'm guessing that he was slapped by a superior and that's that. The nice thing about the originals would be that no pitching or hand working is required, and not much balancing. :( Steve
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Brent Williams on January 14, 2016, 06:29:51 PM
Can Yoshioka be contacted about these propellers?  The Yoshioka and certainly look like similar props.
The Yoshioka props are made in Japan and the Thunder Cyclone Props are made in China. 
I wonder what the price difference is/was.
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Rick Bollinger on January 14, 2016, 06:39:02 PM
Well I was not going to say anything till I had them in my hand but. I have been talking to TT for the last 2 1/2 months about these props. If I ordered a quantity they would make me a batch. After many conversations they are on there way. I should have them in about a week or so. I do have a tracking number. It looks like they will be around $20.00 shipped for a package of 6. I do not want to be a dealer for these but I did want to help out those who want them. I will sell a package of 6 minimum not 1 or 2 at a time. I have a substantial quanitity coming and should be able to take care of everyone that wants them.
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: mike londke on January 14, 2016, 07:55:49 PM
Well I was not going to say anything till I had them in my hand but. I have been talking to TT for the last 2 1/2 months about these props. If I ordered a quantity they would make me a batch. After many conversations they are on there way. I should have them in about a week or so. I do have a tracking number. It looks like they will be around $20.00 shipped for a package of 6. I do not want to be a dealer for these but I did want to help out those who want them. I will sell a package of 6 minimum not 1 or 2 at a time. I have a substantial quanitity coming and should be able to take care of everyone that wants them.
  Put me down for a bag of 6. Thanks for getting them.
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Rick Bollinger on January 14, 2016, 08:04:27 PM
When they come in I will post in the classifieds.
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Brent Williams on January 14, 2016, 08:30:48 PM
That is good news. 
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Akihiro Danjo on January 15, 2016, 07:08:48 AM
Can Yoshioka be contacted about these propellers?  The Yoshioka and certainly look like similar props.
The Yoshioka props are made in Japan and the Thunder Cyclone Props are made in China.  
I wonder what the price difference is/was.

Yoshioka didn't know about TT prop.
And the answer will be.....

Who developed the prop?
Who ordered the mold?

Who copied?
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: john e. holliday on January 15, 2016, 09:48:40 AM
Well I was not going to say anything till I had them in my hand but. I have been talking to TT for the last 2 1/2 months about these props. If I ordered a quantity they would make me a batch. After many conversations they are on there way. I should have them in about a week or so. I do have a tracking number. It looks like they will be around $20.00 shipped for a package of 6. I do not want to be a dealer for these but I did want to help out those who want them. I will sell a package of 6 minimum not 1 or 2 at a time. I have a substantial quanitity coming and should be able to take care of everyone that wants them.

Are you going to start a waiting list for first come first serve???? H^^
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Rick Bollinger on January 15, 2016, 10:07:35 AM
Doc I have a bunch comming. I will limit everyone to a dozen and everyone should get some.
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Target on January 15, 2016, 05:57:25 PM
Doc I have a bunch comming. I will limit everyone to a dozen and everyone should get some.
I'd like a bag of 6, or maybe 2 bags.
I have to repay one or two to my C/L mentors.

R,
Chris
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Steve Lotz on January 15, 2016, 07:18:02 PM
I'd take a dozen.

Steve Lotz
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Steve Helmick on January 15, 2016, 08:02:40 PM
I'd take a dozen.

Steve Lotz

Me too, me toooooo!   8) Steve
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Rick Bollinger on January 15, 2016, 09:34:46 PM
Guys Please hold off on the PM's till I get them on classifieds. It will be at least a week or so till they arrive. Fed ex has them but they are still in China. Thanks Rick
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Motorman on January 16, 2016, 03:32:45 PM
Will a dozen props outlast parts availability for the LA 46, or do you actually have about 8-10 airplanes that use that prop?


MM
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Brent Williams on January 16, 2016, 06:58:51 PM
Will a dozen props outlast parts availability for the LA 46, or do you actually have about 8-10 airplanes that use that prop?


MM

Depends if you fly at a lumpy park with long grass or not.  
My usual flying spots demand their tolls to be paid in broken props.  
For better or worse, hand launching is usually the order of the day.
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Rick Bollinger on January 20, 2016, 07:45:14 PM
They came in today and I put them in classifieds.
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: john e. holliday on January 20, 2016, 09:15:01 PM
PM sent.
Title: Re: Thunder Tigre Cyclone Props
Post by: Tim Redelman on January 21, 2016, 11:17:05 AM
Pm sent last night......

Thanks for all your efforts in this

Tim R.