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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Dan McEntee on June 01, 2013, 10:32:09 AM

Title: This is what really happens!
Post by: Dan McEntee on June 01, 2013, 10:32:09 AM

 
     http://on.aol.com/video/when-vacation-attacks---plane-crashes-at-air-show-517770216?hp=1&playlist=127170&icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl2|sec3_lnk1%26pLid%3D319161

     Check out the above link. Remember a few years ago there was a video going around of an aerobatic airplane supposedly losing a wing, and the pilot manages to fly it down to a wheel landing? I can't believe some thought that it was real, or even possible. This is a pretty cool video of what really happens when an airplane looses a wing, and some quick thinking to come out of it alive.
    Type at you later,
   Dan McEntee

Title: Re: This is what really happens!
Post by: Douglas Ames on June 01, 2013, 10:44:21 AM

It's possible, with the right airframe....and lots of thrust! (Israeli F-15)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afaYlJ8a1AU

Title: Re: This is what really happens!
Post by: Dan McEntee on June 01, 2013, 11:23:04 AM

  Yeah I remember that. Didn't really loose a true half of his wing area, and he had some big old floppy elevators and a computer that I'm sure where helping out. Hellofa pilot for sticking with it and flying it out. A while back there was a discussion of which jet fighter is the best, and this is one reason why I would always choose a McDonnell-Douglas product!  Chuck Yeager once said that if he had to go to battle in an airplane again, it would be in an F-15.
   But still, it's not a straight wing, aerobatic airplane!
  Type at you later,
  Dan McEntee

Title: Re: This is what really happens!
Post by: john e. holliday on June 01, 2013, 07:13:46 PM

Now I guess this is one aerobatic pilot that has the smarts to install a parachute in his plane.   But, what if he had been on the deck and have part of the wing come of during a roll.

Now the jet jocky was not told a jet could not fly with part of the wing gone.

Title: Re: This is what really happens!
Post by: dave siegler on June 02, 2013, 05:39:07 PM

He was operating above max gross weight and probably at higher than design speeds. 

He had an oversized engine, from a max of 62 hp to 80.   

The engine alone went up from 62 pounds ( Rotax 582) to 122 pounds (rotax 12)almost doubling the weight. 
Since the gross weight of the airplane (Rans S9) is only 670 pounds that is quite a bit.  It is probably higher due to weight and balance issues   

http://www.eaa.org/news/2010/2010-08-17_BRS-WingSeparate.asp