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Title: The technology evolving in Avaiation is amazing
Post by: Mike Griffin on November 03, 2019, 08:03:16 AM
If you have not seen this, it is amazing.

Mike

https://youtu.be/F5vOoE4Cqn4

Mike
Title: Re: The technology evolving in Avaiation is amazing
Post by: FLOYD CARTER on November 03, 2019, 10:19:16 AM
I'm waiting for airliners that go into a dive, and lock out the pilot's attempt to recover. That would be the ultimate in automation.
Title: Re: The technology evolving in Avaiation is amazing
Post by: Brett Buck on November 03, 2019, 10:31:48 AM
I'm waiting for airliners that go into a dive, and lock out the pilot's attempt to recover. That would be the ultimate in automation.

   Apparently, they already have that.

    Brett
Title: Re: The technology evolving in Avaiation is amazing
Post by: Howard Rush on November 03, 2019, 11:18:44 AM
What's next cars that drive themselves? Oh wait.

Self-driving cars would be more difficult. The Garmin system is really cool, though.
Title: Re: The technology evolving in Avaiation is amazing
Post by: Fredvon4 on November 03, 2019, 11:56:12 AM
Austin TX many self drive cars and now buses
OTR trucks are testing auto drive in a few markets

Try to keep up

Drone ships supply fuel and supplies to the Navy already

What disturbs me is NOT one talking head interviewing Zuckerburg or any other innovator of AI -----is asking HOW they intend to write the three laws to prevent SkyNet
Title: Re: The technology evolving in Avaiation is amazing
Post by: Mike Griffin on November 03, 2019, 12:55:36 PM
I fly with the Civil Air Patrol as a Observer and Aerial Photographer.  I am not a licensed pilot but have been taught how to fly by the pilots I fly with.  If I were in the front seat and something happened to the pilot, I could probably get the Cessna on the ground although it would probably not be pretty.  What I think about is that many of our pilots have their own planes and fly their wives and children on a regular basis.  If one of them were to have a heart attack in flight, this feature could save the lives of the entire family.  I think that this is amazing technology and it will hopefully be incorporated eventually into small fixed gear aircraft like the Cessna 172 and 182 which we fly for search and rescue.

Mike 
Title: Re: The technology evolving in Avaiation is amazing
Post by: Avaiojet on November 03, 2019, 02:06:19 PM
I fly with the Civil Air Patrol as a Observer and Aerial Photographer.  I am not a licensed pilot but have been taught how to fly by the pilots I fly with.  If I were in the front seat and something happened to the pilot, I could probably get the Cessna on the ground although it would probably not be pretty.  What I think about is that many of our pilots have their own planes and fly their wives and children on a regular basis.  If one of them were to have a heart attack in flight, this feature could save the lives of the entire family.  I think that this is amazing technology and it will hopefully be incorporated eventually into small fixed gear aircraft like the Cessna 172 and 182 which we fly for search and rescue.

Mike

Mike is correct.

With families and an older pilot, one never knows.

I taught my wife to fly every airplane we had. The learning process was easier for her with each new aircraft.

The Lake, being a high performance and complex airplane, took some doing but she did a wonderful job. Even her takeoffs and landings on water were excellent. Come to think of it, she flew the Lake as much as I did.

Title: Re: The technology evolving in Avaiation is amazing
Post by: Howard Rush on November 03, 2019, 02:08:47 PM
It would probably encourage people to fly while drunk.
Title: Re: The technology evolving in Avaiation is amazing
Post by: Dan McEntee on November 03, 2019, 03:03:06 PM
It would probably encourage people to fly while drunk.

     Some people may think Howard is being his usual jovial self, but this has happened with the self driving cars on the market today. People trying to "ride" drunk, or actually taking a nap on their way to their destination. Putting the technology in every airplane would be a very expensive and almost impossible endeavor.  Every airplane would have to be fly by wire, and making that a requirement would put the general aviation industry in a tailspin, so to speak. If all you want to do is get the airplane back on the ground in the event of a pilot becoming incapacitated, a ballistic parachute makes more sense, is easier to incorporate into existing designs, and be much less expensive. they have proven their worth several times in actual use so far. All this robotic car, truck stuff will seem kind of novel and innovative, but over time the short comings of not having a human operator on board and in charge will expand in areas we haven't thought of yet.
  Type at you later,
  Dan McEntee
Title: Re: The technology evolving in Avaiation is amazing
Post by: Mike Griffin on November 03, 2019, 06:23:55 PM
Well, it will be interesting to see how it evolves in the future.  Any technology that makes flying safer is a good thing. 

Mike
Title: Re: The technology evolving in Avaiation is amazing
Post by: Dave Hull on November 03, 2019, 07:52:17 PM
Many years ago, I proposed that the airlines be required to have an auto-land/lockout feature. That is, if the plane was not being flown by the scheduled flight crew, that it would recognize this and divert to the nearest equipped military field. Now imagine that you are a hijacker. Forget about SWAT. You just messed up the flight schedule of a military organization and they are gonna be p@#$%ed.

With all of the gear that is being incorporated or required by the FAA in light planes today, much of the data is available for a decent autonomous function. The expense comes in when it is in charge of primary control, and not a backup system. Such would be the case for an incapacitated pilot. Redundancy and certification costs can be killer....

Dave
Title: Re: The technology evolving in Avaiation is amazing
Post by: M Spencer on November 03, 2019, 08:23:35 PM
At least theres not to many cyclists & pedestrians on the runways . The car computer  things seem a bit snobish , in that respect.
Title: Re: The technology evolving in AVAIATION is amazing
Post by: Steve Helmick on November 04, 2019, 12:05:41 PM
They tried to make misspelling impossible, but we know how well that works, right? Avaiation?   LL~ Steve
Title: Re: The technology evolving in Avaiation is amazing
Post by: Perry Rose on November 05, 2019, 02:25:05 PM
I didn't hear anything taking "fuel remaining/fuel management" into consideration.
Title: Re: The technology evolving in AVAIATION is amazing
Post by: Mike Griffin on November 05, 2019, 06:22:00 PM
They tried to make misspelling impossible, but we know how well that works, right? Avaiation?   LL~ Steve

Just noticed that Steve.  LOL.. I don't know if my mind gets ahead of my fingers or vice versa.  I really do know how to spell that wurd.
Title: Re: The technology evolving in Avaiation is amazing
Post by: RC Storick on November 05, 2019, 06:26:55 PM
In 1974 the F14 Tomcat had ACL Automatic carrier landing function. They would line up on the ball and turn on the ACL and the plane would land its self on the deck. So not really new.