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Title: THE LARGEST PLANE
Post by: Bob Disharoon on May 05, 2007, 05:30:37 AM: Out of curiosity, what is the largest u/c plane ever flown?....thnx, H.D.
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Post by: Bill Gruby on May 05, 2007, 06:21:24 AM: HD;

I can't remember how big, but there was a "Scale B-36 Peacemaker" at the Nats one year and it was huge. Anyone out there remember it?

"Billy G" ;D
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Post by: minnesotamodeler on May 05, 2007, 08:06:07 AM: Frank Carlisle's LA Heat. It won't fit in his truck.
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Post by: Clint Ormosen on May 05, 2007, 12:26:44 PM: Windy U's Sweeper is 900+ sq in. That's pretty big, isn't it?
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Post by: Tom McClain on May 05, 2007, 12:42:12 PM: In past issues of American Aircraft Modeler and Air Trails, there was a Sgt Ford of the Air Force that built huge scale CL aircraft. Those that I remember were: C-5A Galaxy, C-119 Flying Boxcar, T-29, C-133 Cargomaster were several. All were huge and the Galaxy required him to wear a harness with another flyer holding on to him as he flew it.
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Post by: Jim Thomerson on May 05, 2007, 03:29:45 PM: I think the largest flown were at Wright-Pat. I'll have to hunt up the article. As I recall they were flying using a remote control set up and 200 ft lines. Large scale models of existing military aircraft, and experimental aircraft.

A friend in Illinois was building a 1/4 scale Citrabra for a Quadra. Don't know if he ever finished it. I recall seeing a Zilch, back in the 50's, with a lawnmower engine, maybe 8 ft wingspan. It flew at a contest in Beaumont.
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Post by: peabody on May 05, 2007, 06:30:43 PM: The GSCB had a member that flew an 8' spanned Cub...he's taking a dirt nap now...........
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Post by: Bill Gruby on May 05, 2007, 07:13:41 PM: HD;

How about a plane with 1000 sq. in. of wing, does that count? I know where there are two of these being built. Then there is one with 1524 sq. in. that is about to go on paper.

"Billy G" HIHI%%
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Post by: Bob Disharoon on May 06, 2007, 06:11:39 AM: WOW..1000sq."! that is pretty dam big. Is it going to be in a magazine when its finished?..H.D.
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Post by: Clancy Arnold on May 06, 2007, 06:29:47 AM: The largest model I have flown was my C-7A Caribou with a 76 inch wing span.

The largest I have seen competing was Dick Byron's B-24 Liberator with, as I remember, a 100 inch wing span. When Dick transported it to the field the wing "sat" in the passangers seat with the back reclined. I forget how he got it in and out.

Clancy
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Post by: Michael Boucher on May 06, 2007, 07:13:59 AM: Hi Clancy, How did the B-24 fly? Did it start off as a R/C kit? Thanks, Mike %^@
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Post by: Peter Nevai on May 06, 2007, 10:24:26 AM: Lookie
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Post by: Bill Gruby on May 06, 2007, 10:30:18 AM: Quote from: Peter Nevai on May 06, 2007, 10:24:26 AM
Lookie

VD~ VD~ YOU DA MAN VD~ VD~

"Billy G" LL~
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Post by: Paul Taylor on May 06, 2007, 12:59:56 PM: Hey Billy The G-Man
I got a secret I won’t tell… S?P
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Post by: Bill Gruby on May 06, 2007, 01:03:49 PM: HEY ROOTBEARD

VD~ LL~ LL~ VD~

"Billy G" 010! na# 010!
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Post by: Paul Taylor on May 06, 2007, 01:20:02 PM: Hey G-Man S?P

HIHI%%

(PE**)

Here kitty kitty.... LL~ LL~ LL~
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Post by: Bill Gruby on May 06, 2007, 01:25:29 PM: OK You Two (HD and Rootbeard)

SH^ SH^ SH^ BUT NOT TODAY SH^ SH^ SH^

"THE ONE AND ONLY G-MAN"
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Post by: Peter Nevai on May 06, 2007, 01:31:23 PM: Hint
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Post by: Bill Gruby on May 06, 2007, 01:39:23 PM: Peter;

We got that secret OK Rootbeard is talking about a cat only I can let out of the bag, and like I said it ain't gonna happen today LL~ LL~ LL~

"THE ONE AND ONLY G-MAN" VD~ VD~ VD~ VD~

PS---- I forgot there is one other person who can let the perverbial "KITTY OUT OF THE BAG" and he ain't tellin either. When he is ready he will step forward and tell you guys who he is. It is not for me to say. There are a few that know and they are "baiting" us but it ain't gonna work. n1 n1 n1 n1 n1 n1
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Post by: Joey Mathison 9806 on May 06, 2007, 03:56:59 PM: could it be a tri slob? S?P
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Post by: Bill Gruby on May 06, 2007, 04:23:47 PM: JOEY;

HIHI%% NOPE HIHI%%

THAT IS A THOUGHT THOUGH HUH !

"THE G-MAN" na#
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Post by: Paul Taylor on May 06, 2007, 05:05:43 PM: THANKS Joey,

You just gave the G-Man another wild idea!!!!

n~
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Post by: Bill Gruby on May 06, 2007, 05:16:45 PM: Joey and Rootbeard;

LL~ Tri-Slob--900 sq. in.-- RoJett .90 LL~

"THE G-MAN" VD~
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Post by: Bill Little on May 06, 2007, 08:36:38 PM: Hmmmmmmmm...........

A "TRI-SLOB" with a .90........................
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Post by: Dick Byron on May 07, 2007, 04:15:23 AM: The B-24 was a Stafford kit. 4 OK Max 25's , 14 lbs. It flew great but landed like a basket ball. Bouncy, Bouncy. I took it to Kiev in 1988 to the world championships. On the first flight, when I retracted the gear I could hear the crowd oooh and aaah. It was a thrilling sound I will never forget. It hangs in a hobby shop in Cedar Rapids Iowa now.
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Post by: Bob Disharoon on May 07, 2007, 06:57:16 AM: Is this it?
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Post by: Warren Leadbeatter on May 07, 2007, 07:24:41 AM: For F2B try PJ Rowlands' Lancaster powered by 4 Enya 19s - 3rd place 2006 Vic State Championships
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Post by: Charlie Pate on May 07, 2007, 07:47:20 AM: I have video of the B36 ,Flying at the nats ;55 I believe.
Had 6 K&B 19s (I also believe). :D
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Post by: Leo Mehl on May 07, 2007, 10:28:53 AM: HEY I KNOW AND I"M NOT TELLING VD~ VD~ VD~ HB~>
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Post by: Bob Zambelli on May 07, 2007, 11:12:32 AM: Cliff - regarding successful large stunt planes, I think you're right on about the Sweeper.

I restored Windy's second version to flying status a few years back and when I flew it, I was amazed at the performance. I would not hesitate to compete with it. As I recall, it was around 110 ounces.

I also have the original, a I-beam version in many pieces, that will someday fly.

To get an idea of the size, here's a picture of it hanging on my kitchen wall - compare it to the Nobler!!!

Bob Z.
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Post by: Chris McMillin on May 07, 2007, 01:04:56 PM: Quote from: bob disharoon on May 07, 2007, 06:57:16 AM
Is this it?

No, No Bob. That is someones Mk II Spitfire getting a bit of very expensive maintenance!
Chris...
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Post by: Bob Disharoon on May 07, 2007, 04:40:31 PM: Actually, its a museum restoration project, but, as you say, definitely not cheap. y1
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Post by: Bill Gruby on May 08, 2007, 06:00:49 AM: HD--Rootbeard--Leo

The winner is a 1---------------------------------------- not yet. LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~Nope

"G-MAN" VD~ VD~ VD~ VD~
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Post by: Bill Little on May 08, 2007, 07:04:08 AM: I remember someone posting an old, old picture of a guy trying to fly (maybe he did!) an almost full size Cub on what looked like towing cables! Anyone else remember that picture? Was the early '50s, IIRC.

I do remember some references to Sgt. Ford that Tom referred to. He had some huge multiengined scale jobs. y1
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Post by: Leo Mehl on May 08, 2007, 10:21:37 AM: Nope.I am not telling either I am with the G-man on Tis one LL~ LL~ LL~ VD~
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Post by: Bill Gruby on May 08, 2007, 10:30:31 AM: CLUE #1 It begins with "T" and ends with "z"----------Have Fun

"G-Man" VD~ VD~ S?P VD~ VD~
Title: Re: THE LARGEST PLANE
Post by: Shultzie on May 08, 2007, 10:55:14 AM: Wow!
U GOT ME..."G"MEISTROMAN????????? :! n~ H^^ (Beyond my demented brain cell capassaciditee' HB~>
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Post by: Charlie Pate on May 08, 2007, 11:18:33 AM: Thought I put this in yesterday;
I have a tape of the B36 flying at the nats.
It had Six, count em ,Six torp 19s
I believe this was the 55 nats. H^^
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Post by: Bill Gruby on May 08, 2007, 11:30:48 AM: You Did it is reply #27 :o :o :o

"Billy G" ;D
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Post by: Paul Taylor on May 08, 2007, 11:57:43 AM: Quote from: Bill Gruby on May 08, 2007, 10:30:31 AM
CLUE #1 It begins with "T" and ends with "z"----------Have Fun

"G-Man" VD~ VD~ S?P VD~ VD~

G-Man,
Yous a much better spellrer then I is....but me thinks it ends with the letter d??? n~
LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~
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Post by: Bill Gruby on May 08, 2007, 12:05:56 PM: Rootbeard;

"Z"

"G-Man" na# na# na# na#
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Post by: Charlie Pate on May 08, 2007, 12:46:30 PM: I thought I did;but just couldn,t find it this morning; looked twice..
It,s awful to get old , thank goodness I still have my good looks! Z@@ZZZ
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Post by: Dick Byron on May 08, 2007, 02:35:14 PM: In 1958, I think, I went to a contest in Torrington, CT. There were 2 B-36's there. They both flew off grass. I was very impressed.
Not to change the subject, but, why do we remember those kind of things but have no idea where the car keys are? ??? ??? ???
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Post by: Bob Disharoon on May 08, 2007, 03:46:38 PM: I know what IT is, but I cant even figure out this "t" and 'Z" stuff..thats pretty pitiful is it not, BG?....Still thinking, H.D.
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Post by: Leo Mehl on May 08, 2007, 03:49:13 PM: I would tell you what it is but I don't remember how to spell it. #1 Clue. This is a little tease. LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ HB~>
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Post by: Bill Gruby on May 08, 2007, 04:12:10 PM: HI everybody;

You ready---CLUE #2 middle word or number out of 23 total is------40" LL~ LL~

"The G-Man" S?P VD~ S?P

I will check back to see how you are doing, let me know when you have had enough OK (PE**) (PE**)
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Post by: Mike Palko on May 08, 2007, 04:18:49 PM: The largest plane I have seen is the double up Flight Streak built by Dan Banjock and Ted Heinritz. Wingspan is 84", wing area is 1600sq" weight without fuel is 10.25lbs. The power is provided by an ASP 1.08 swinging a 16" prop. Many have seen it fly at Brodaks. In 2006 there was also a double up Buster and a large PT-19 both flying in scale.

The largest plane I have heard of was a B36 if I remember correctly. It had 3 whizzer motor bike engines and 3 dyna jets. An old member of the Philly Fliers said he helped build the model. I remember seeing pictures of it and I believe someone still has it.

Mike
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Post by: Bob Disharoon on May 08, 2007, 05:40:27 PM: Quote from: Bill Gruby on May 08, 2007, 04:12:10 PM
HI everybody;

You ready---CLUE #2 middle word or number out of 23 total is------40" LL~ LL~

"The G-Man" S?P VD~ S?P

I will check back to see how you are doing, let me know when you have had enough OK (PE**) (PE**)
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Post by: Leo Mehl on May 08, 2007, 06:15:16 PM: Don't anyone give up It would spoil Rootbeard, leo and the big's G's fun. Next clue will come from Bill because I don't know what in the hell he is thinking about. Tune in tomarrow. I am printing this out so we can use it against him. If this sounds like a consperisey you are probably right mw~ mw~ mw~ HB~> HB~> :##
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Post by: Bill Gruby on May 08, 2007, 07:06:03 PM: Dang---If Leo is copying this thing I knew I should have added a "Disclaimer". That's it for today folks I would not want to be the one to keep anybody from a good nights sleep. I will see all of you in the morning, I will try to post "CLUE #3" before you go to work so you can't concentrate there either. It may not be bothering all of you but there are a couple. LL~ LL~ LL~

"THE ONE AND ONLY G-MAN" Z@@ZZZ Z@@ZZZ Z@@ZZZ
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Post by: Shultzie on May 08, 2007, 07:30:24 PM: "G" MAN!
All this guessin' has me in a Tizzzy-Fit! LL~ LL~ n~
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Post by: Bill Gruby on May 08, 2007, 09:39:50 PM: To Everyone Crazy enough to follow this "Riddle"

It will take much to long to complete this one "CLUE" at a time. So let's just fill in the blanks OK? Here goes:

T h e "Ringmaster 1000"----68" Wing Span----1000 sq in Wing Area

40" Length----27 1/2" Stab Span---- Fox .78 Power----70-75 oz

LETTERS"

NUMBERS:

Now you can print it out if you wish, all you have to do is fill in the blanks with the given numbers and letters. Have fun all you problem solvers. From time to time during the day I will fill in a blank. If nobody has come up with the answer by 6:00 PM tomorrow night I will give you the answer. Hint: It is experimental, it hasen't been tried yet that we know of.

"G-Man" VD~ VD~ VD~
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Post by: Bill Gruby on May 09, 2007, 04:18:41 AM: Some of you are following this, some are not. Some are having fun, some probably think it is uncalled for. Either way it is done for enjoyment and a way to introduce you to something. This will be done later. The above is solveable I made sure this morning. I hope someone does. See you later.

"G-Man" VD~ VD~ VD~
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Post by: Bill Little on May 09, 2007, 06:32:06 AM: The Mongolian 40" Crop Duster Pusher Canard Triplane
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Post by: Bob Disharoon on May 09, 2007, 06:49:23 AM: Bill.!!!...amazing..thats the same answer I came up with..were you cheating?....H.D.
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Post by: Bill Little on May 09, 2007, 07:01:11 AM: Quote from: bob disharoon on May 09, 2007, 06:49:23 AM
Bill.!!!...amazing..thats the same answer I came up with..were you cheating?....H.D.

H.D.,

Yes I must admit, I cheated..........................
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Post by: Bill Gruby on May 09, 2007, 10:41:46 AM: YOU TWO GET IN THE CORNER----NOBODY CHEATS ON MY TEST **) **) **)

"G-Man" VD~ VD~ VD~
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Post by: Mark Scarborough on May 09, 2007, 01:39:33 PM: Now this isnt nice, you just got me in trouble, here I am trying to work this out, and my supervisor walks in, sigh, no way to disguise this as work on Autocad, man,,
''
snicker, at least he knows I am an airplane nut, so he just shook his head and walked away,, muttering something about interventions and addictions,,
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Post by: Bill Gruby on May 09, 2007, 01:57:04 PM: SORRY;

LL~ LL~ VD~ LL~ LL~

"G-Man" S?P S?P S?P
Title: Re: THE LARGEST PLANE
Post by: Bill Gruby on May 09, 2007, 03:13:00 PM: 5:11 EST-----------------49 MINUTES TO GO

"G-MAN" VD~ VD~ VD~
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Post by: Shultzie on May 09, 2007, 03:39:15 PM: EEEEEEEUUUUUREEEEAKA! %^@

HERE IS THE LARGEST OLD PLANE THAT I COULD FIND!
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Post by: Bill Gruby on May 09, 2007, 04:09:58 PM: Here is the scoop;

I know I am supposed to end this at 6:00 PM today and it is after that now, but there is a problem, no I DID NOT FORGET THE ANSWER. Leo Mehl has not logged on yet and I will not end it till he does. You have a little more time, we are going into overtime. It is sudden death overtime, as soon as Leo logs on it is over. If you get the answer post it. See you later.

"G-Man" S?P S?P S?P
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Post by: Mike Scholtes on May 09, 2007, 04:34:46 PM: When researching the service history of my (full scale) 1943 Taylorcraft L-2M spotter plane, I learned that during WWII there were experiments aimed at getting small planes out of fields they could land in but were too short to take off from (easy to do, don't ask how I know). One "solution" actually put into practice was to THETHER one wingtip to a large fixed object with a line (don't recall the length but would have to be 200 feet or so) and fly the airplane around the pylon till flying speed was reached (about 50-60 mph) then release the cable attachment. I wouldn't care to try this myself, but they did lots of screwy things during the war. Actually this is about the speed our models fly at, so it is not inherently a crazy idea. The L-2 has deployable slats behind the LE on the top of the wing that allow it to be dropped into very short fields, by killing the lift on about 6 feet of span at the wing roots.
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Post by: Bill Gruby on May 09, 2007, 05:04:31 PM: Post #51 Riddle

VD~ VD~ LOOK BACK THE RIDDLE IS OVER VD~ VD~

I will start a new post tomorrow to tell you more. sorry Leo I waited as long as I could. Hope everyone had fun?Mark I hope you still have a job?

"G-Man' H^^ H^^ H^^
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Post by: Dennis Adamisin on May 09, 2007, 05:45:36 PM: Maybe not the biggest but maybe the BADDEST! Windy's 1980(?) SWEEPER!
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Post by: Leo Mehl on May 09, 2007, 06:20:14 PM: I think the G-man is always sleepy. Does everyone agree? He has got everyone where he wants them. He will probably tell us as soon as everyone is done guessing. All I know is I know Noothinggg. Z@@ZZZ Z@@ZZZ Z@@ZZZ Z@@ZZZ Z@@ZZZ HB~>
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Post by: Bill Little on May 09, 2007, 06:45:58 PM: Quote from: Leo Mehl on May 09, 2007, 06:20:14 PM
I think the G-man is always sleepy. Does everyone agree? He has got everyone where he wants them. He will probably tell us as soon as everyone is done guessing. All I know is I know Noothinggg. Z@@ZZZ Z@@ZZZ Z@@ZZZ Z@@ZZZ Z@@ZZZ HB~>

Hey, Brother Leo, go up to reply #51 and G-Man has filled in the answer!
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Post by: john e. holliday on May 10, 2007, 09:24:47 PM: Quote from: Shultzie on May 09, 2007, 03:39:15 PM
EEEEEEEUUUUUREEEEAKA! %^@

HERE IS THE LARGEST OLD PLANE THAT I COULD FIND!

I have one of those in the basement waiting for some more silkspan and dope to stiffen up the wings. The first flight on it once it got up to speed it disappeared in flutter mode. The only way to deep it from fluttering was to keep doing loops and 8's. Also keeping lap times to 5.4 or more helped also. DOC Holliday
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Post by: Leo Mehl on May 10, 2007, 10:31:57 PM: Hey, Billy "g" when are you going to lay it on them or are you trying to finish this before you Post a picture? If you don't post it right away I would say you are teasing everyone Which I know you are capable of doing. S?P
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Post by: Bob Zambelli on May 16, 2007, 12:01:50 PM: After I restored the Sweeper (2nd version), I brought it out to Brodak's to play.

Here is a shot of John's grandson holding it. ~^ ~^

Bob Z.