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The Big If...
« on: March 01, 2011, 02:29:20 PM »
The big problem for me is I have neither a pace of my own or room to do a whole lot.
But I can dream..
I just wonder what you all would build if you had the time,space or money to build what ever you wished....
How about your top 5....
For me it would be something like this...
Rabe mustang,
Stunt machine
Genisis
Stiletto
Geiske nobler...

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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2011, 02:42:32 PM »
My current wish list of five...............it starts with the four that have been started and have been on the building board for years.

        1. Sassy Saucer

        2. Sterling Yak-9

        3. Sig Chipmunk

        4. Sig Skyray 35

        5. Bi-Slob (still in the box...but I want to get it built and flying soon)

                                    -TDurrill............    HB~>    HB~>    HB~>   
       

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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2011, 03:38:19 PM »
I am one of those super fortunate guys who has the space, time, and a little cash to be able to build all I want. I have over a dozen planes ready to fly right now. I am always seeking a better flying stunt ship. Aren't we all? (I would like to become a better pilot too.) I have built quite a few profiles and am now mainly concentrating on built up fuselage ships. I got a Brodak Legacy for Christmas and have ordered a new Avastar .46 for it. In studying the plans I went to work on a 11% smaller version size of the Legacy. Mainly because I had an extra S/Chipmunk wing that is the same exact airfoil but 11% shorter in wing span. Thus I have shrunk the whole plane 11%. It will house a FP .40  When this ship is finished I will get started on the Legacy kit. I have several great kits to build; T-Bird, Jamison Special, Accentor, and a Ring master 576 that I got from Pat Johnston. In a couple of weeks when I have healed from my recent surgery I have a couple of new ships that need maiden flights put on them. You know, this retirement thing is the best. Only thing is you are now old and lacking in as much energy as you might like to have.

Today is nearly perfect flying weather here in north Texas. I am chomping at the bits to get one in the air...............Jerry

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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 04:23:59 PM »
I'd say
1) A Sterling Polish fighter to replace the one my mom threw out when she moved a couple of years ago (I have the plans,just need to get to it)
2)Something Carrier probably maybe a Corsair
3) Jack Sheeks FW 190
4) Sheeks Stuka
5) My own stunt Lancaster--somthin like PJ's

6) work on my ole 911..that poor car has been apart for about 7 years now.. ''
 
I've started plenty...would be nice to finish something!!!

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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 07:34:14 PM »
 Five isn't anywhere near enough choices.  n~
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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2011, 11:33:20 PM »
Hmmmmmmmm................. like Wayne, not sure I can limit it to 5, but here goes, and it is limited to ones I do not have in progress.......  One "PAMPA Class" stunt ship seems to last me at least 15 years, so what I am working on it that area should have me covered until I can no longer fly! LOL!!

Most Wanted:

1. B-17G from Hobby Helpers plans that appeared in American Modeler in August 1963.  I got the original magazine (have somehow saved it all these years!) and thanks to Allen Brickhaus, I got the plans a couple years ago.  It was the British NATS C/L scale winner in 1963, with 4 Babe Bee .049s!  :o  (this one is the real GOT TO as far as my model building "Holy Grail" is concerned)

2. A Classic Legal Rabe Mustang. (have laser cut ribs!)

3. Another USA-1

4. Genesis .46 (have the foam cores!)

5. Stiletto (the World Championship winning version)

Now the remainder from a list that I have never built and have not yet started but WILL build (not to include profiles! LOL!!):

Louis Grondal's AMA Special, NAKKE, Sheeks FW-190, either of the two different Macaluso F-8 Crusaders, Denny Adamisin's Typhoon, Josef Gabris' Master (not the Super Master), Juno,  a correct Stunt Machine, Formula S, and a Sterling Polish Fighter (have a laser cut short kit).

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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2011, 02:26:21 AM »
I have the kits to build all but one of my top fives left to build.

1.  F-86
2.  JD Falcon
3.  Cobra
4.  LaDonna
5.  Argus
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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2011, 02:59:22 AM »
In the stunt scheme of things I already have a definitive five mapped out:

1. Universal (own design, part one of a pair)
2. Aeolean (own design, part two of the pair)
3. Rabe Bearcat 3
4. Typhoon (own design, offspring of the aforementioned pair)
5. Something derived from the Typhoon, but with electric power. Might have to name it after something to do with an electrical strom ;)

Honourable mentions go to the mighty Stunt Machine and Novi 3 which regularly threaten to knock the Rabe Bearcat back a few spots.
 
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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2011, 09:51:26 AM »
My wife says I have to pace myself, or I will build myself into a corner. I am sure there is plenty more room, it just doesn't look like it right now. LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~
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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2011, 11:03:39 AM »
My wife says I have to pace myself, or I will build myself into a corner. I am sure there is plenty more room, it just doesn't look like it right now. LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~

I know that situation!

My next will probably be what ever the pencil creates.
For me the head scratching and erasing of lines is all part of what I enjoy! HB~>

Toss up between Hellcat or full competition stunt probably molded balsa.

Will probably change my mind along the way......... ???
Molded F7F is a possible.

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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2011, 11:18:44 AM »

1. B-17G from Hobby Helpers plans that appeared in American Modeler in August 1963.  I got the original magazine (have somehow saved it all these years!) and thanks to Allen Brickhaus, I got the plans a couple years ago.  It was the British NATS C/L scale winner in 1963, with 4 Babe Bee .049s!  :o  (this one is the real GOT TO as far as my model building "Holy Grail" is concerned)



Great choice.  I have a B-17G also !

And a B-17 E.

Some have even seen them fly.  :)

Paul W

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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2011, 02:44:04 PM »
Well, if time and money were no object? My answer might surprise some since I'm mostly a stunt junkie and been building & flying mostly proven Randy planes...

What I'd really love is to have the luxury of the time, space and money to experiment, since cranking out a competition ship every year or so eats up most of my available shop time...is to try a few of my own designs for stunt, which of the 5 not in any particular order would be:

1) an original - typical lawn dart, but a different look.
2) XF-88B Voodoo (I think this would make a cool pipe ship... of course the thing would really be pushing the limit's of cartoon scale)

3) Edge 540

4) De Havilland D.H.112 Venom

5) DC-3 twin (yes, a passenger ship for stunt, I know, stupid, but I want to put terrified passengers faces in all the windows, heh heh)

And I would want all of them to be top tier level competitive, so they would not be true to scale by any means, more cartoon scale.
Anyways, this would be my fantasy list if I had unlimited time and resources... Now back to reality and the grind at work.  HB~>
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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2011, 02:51:51 PM »
I only have a list of two right now;

1)Goldberg Shoestring ( just like the one I received in 1968 at the age of 5) orange  with red trim.
2)the Sheik by Jack Sheeks( thing looks like its doing mach IV sitting still) if you haven't seen it go to baxters website and chack it out.
Actually 3,4,5 could be some of the planes in Jack Sheeks basement

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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2011, 08:05:23 PM »
1. B-17G from Hobby Helpers plans that appeared in American Modeler in August 1963.  I got the original magazine (have somehow saved it all these years!) and thanks to Allen Brickhaus, I got the plans a couple years ago.  It was the British NATS C/L scale winner in 1963, with 4 Babe Bee .049s!  :o  (this one is the real GOT TO as far as my model building "Holy Grail" is concerned)



Great choice.  I have a B-17G also !

And a B-17 E.

Some have even seen them fly.  :)

Paul W

Hi Paul,

Yeah, rub it in..................... ;D

Very unfortunately, I have only seen YOUR B-17s fly on video.  Way too impressive, from all viewpoints.  They are the most "IMPRESSIVE" stunt planes I have ever seen, regardless of genre.

Mine will only fly level, retract the gear, lower the flaps, and have working throttles, etc., but I will be ecstatic when it flies.

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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2011, 08:37:57 PM »
My top 5 would be copies of other models.

1: Lighter Lancaster Take apart- Dont fancy a b17 and doing the nacelles ( not that great at rounded nacelles )
2: Special Edition painted in Ted's Scheme as seen in 2004
3: Miss America Mustang ( Painted in Pauls Newer colour scheme not the original one )
4: .35 540 sq Thundegazer ( Painted in Current colour scheme but Green/Gold with .61 ( Makes sense to me... )
5: Twin Mustang with 2 x 61's - perhaps not for contest flights but for fun

and 6 has been on my wish list for a while : A Semi Aerobatic Autogyro with current carbon fiber blades and vector thust / vector blade technology. With .61 sized engine.
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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2011, 08:44:25 PM »
Hi PJ,

I actually have a "top secret, level 21 security clearance, super duper piped, Scale Stunter" I have been working on with Ron Burn for a few years.  Unfortunately, my Adult ADHD is a great hindrance..........

And a fully stunt capable B-17 would be my final straw....... but again, Adult ADHD, and untreated. LL~ LL~  If I built one of those and it flew well, I would probably never build another stunt plane.......

(but I have considered a "smaller than yours" Lancaster with (4) OS .10FSRs..........)
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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2011, 09:48:44 PM »
Great thread idea. Tough to choose but in no particular order:

               * Rick Sawicki DO-335 only as a twin as he designed it around 1966
               * Big Art's "Canberra" from 1966
               * Fred Bachl's "Osiris"
               * Jerry Worth "Apteryx"
               * My "Hawker Tempest" from 1970

I dunno, I kinda expect to see another of those B17's coming outta Seattle area....                   
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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2011, 09:54:08 PM »
" I dunno, I kinda expect to see another of those B17's coming outta Seattle area...."

I doubt it unless someone else does one....  as interesting as an ELECTRIC version would be its the weight of flying it and the phsyical toll that no electrics will solve..




*** Let me ammend this post by saying - I dont speak on behalf of Paul Walker, and that was'nt my intention to do so perhaps we will see one.. ***

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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2011, 10:10:52 PM »
 Eric V,

 Have you seen the Edge kit that Walter Umland is working on?


 Bill,

 What is the wingspan on the HH B-17?
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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2011, 10:14:45 PM »
My top 5 would be copies of other models.

1: Lighter Lancaster Take apart- Dont fancy a b17 and doing the nacelles ( not that great at rounded nacelles )
2: Special Edition painted in Ted's Scheme as seen in 2004
3: Miss America Mustang ( Painted in Pauls Newer colour scheme not the original one )
4: .35 540 sq Thundegazer ( Painted in Current colour scheme but Green/Gold with .61 ( Makes sense to me... )
5: Twin Mustang with 2 x 61's - perhaps not for contest flights but for fun

and 6 has been on my wish list for a while : A Semi Aerobatic Autogyro with current carbon fiber blades and vector thust / vector blade technology. With .61 sized engine.
PJ,
Do you have plans for the P-61? I have CAD plans for that airplane in profile scale for twin 1/2A and twin .35 engines.  y1

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« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2011, 10:35:26 PM »
Yes, but I seem to remember that being a medium size profile? I'd be designing for something in the 675-690 square range with a semi realistic full fuselage.

EricV

Eric V,

 Have you seen the Edge kit that Walter Umland is working on?


 Bill,

 What is the wingspan on the HH B-17?

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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2011, 10:49:05 PM »
Pat: No I was going to sratch build it... based on existing frames .. I think weight is an issue here..
Looking at it - Its not that complex mustang fuse have been done 100 times, jsut make the wing with a gap in the middle .




This is a wish list - with time and money no object -
Having bought my 1st house in April Last year and planning an oversea's holiday in July to USA I have neither of either..


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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2011, 12:40:02 AM »
Yes, but I seem to remember that being a medium size profile? I'd be designing for something in the 675-690 square range with a semi realistic full fuselage.

EricV


Hi Eric,

I understand that Walter is doing a full fuselage version in about that size.  Well maybe a "touch" smaller, but then it seems everyone is going to be going a "touch smaller"! LL~.

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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2011, 12:40:48 AM »
(snip)
 Bill,

 What is the wingspan on the HH B-17?

45"

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« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2011, 12:08:56 PM »
I have the place. It's the time and money that always get me.

1. Mirage II
2. My own design P-51 Reno Air racers (for a .75 on a pipe).
3. My own design of the Rare Bear
4. An Al Rabe Critical Mass
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« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2011, 12:41:55 PM »
Being retired/disabled on ssi does suck...
Between the time I stopped working and finally got ssi I lost the house and became seperated.
So Prior to coming to NYC to take cae of my I was living full time in an rv. Hopping from  BLM property to blm property.
So if I'm lucky I'll save enough to either fix the rv or repace it with a trailer and something to pull it.. That would allow me to build more. But right now I'm taking care of mom.. and my b/p runs 160/95 and my dr is 2500 miles from me.

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« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2011, 03:21:36 PM »
Eric,

It is time for you to do your own thing. Work on that dream airplane. You will never regret it. That's what the old "Originality" was all about. It helped stunt develop rapidly. Break the mold and go for it!
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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2011, 04:24:51 PM »
I have the place. It's the time and money that always get me.

1. Mirage II
2. My own design P-51 Reno Air racers (for a .75 on a pipe).
3. My own design of the Rare Bear
4. An Al Rabe Critical Mass
5. A Colossus

It's the time and money that always get me.


Aw.. Randy, you still got plenty of both! LOL!!

Any new pics of the new plane?
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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2011, 04:53:07 PM »
my to od list;
1. 31" span Scared Kitten
2. yoyo  have plans and a laser cut rib set
3. Pinto
4. FW-190 sport scale from House of Balsa 1/2a rc kit
5. Scientific P-38 from plans
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« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2011, 10:55:06 AM »
PJ,
I am sure that you know that the fuselage of the twin Mustang is longer than the fuselage of the Mustang. It has a longer nose. If you would like I will e-mail you the plans for the profile scale bird it has a 64.3" wingspan and 654 square inches.

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« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2011, 11:11:41 AM »
the fuselage of the twin Mustang is longer than the fuselage of the Mustang. It has a longer nose.
The cockpits seem to be more forward on the F-82

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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2011, 11:44:56 AM »
Well, I decided to respond.   I would need a shop the size of the work hanger at the 64 Dallas NATS(Grand Prairie NAS).  With all the benches so I could lay out all the kits that are availble.  But, right now I have several kits and plans I would like to start on.  But, there is one at the head of the list just recieved that will have to wait until I return from the VSC.  Then I will start on it plus the pictures.  H^^
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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2011, 01:00:19 PM »
I guess first I'd like to finish:
      My Double Cross (Crossfire kit bashed Dreadnought)
      My G' Noblest
      My Worlds ugliest OTS ship (to fly for fun, not points)!
      My Mig 15 / Pathfinder (I can't leave anything alone)!

And the big #5...

     A Curtis Jenny Stunt ship powered by a multi cylindered 4 Cycle (On tuned pipes, of course)

The products of a sik mind>>>

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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #33 on: March 04, 2011, 03:40:25 PM »
Sure pat email is on my profile.
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Re: The Big If...
« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2011, 09:11:11 PM »
Sure pat email is on my profile.


It's also the little "Envelope" icon at the bottom left of everyone's posts. ;D

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