The reason for this is that we have a worthless piece of sh** for a president.
He hasn’t got the balls to take action.
I still can’t believe that POS got into office.
If Trump was president that balloon would have been history as soon as it crossed into USA airspace.
Where's Alec Baldwin when we need him??
Shot down about 22 minutes ago over the Atlantic and will be picked up.What took so long??
Best, DennisT
If Trump was president that balloon would have been history as soon as it crossed into USA airspace.
“ Three Chinese spy balloons infiltrated the US during Trump administration but he never shot them down or told the public”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11714657/Three-Chinese-spy-balloons-infiltrated-Trump-administration.html
President Trump and all of his National Security Staff have unequivocally denied the Fake News Propaganda from the mainstream media that he allowed any invasion of US Airspace.
President Trump and all of his National Security Staff have unequivocally denied the Fake News Propaganda from the mainstream media that he allowed any invasion of US Airspace.
“Instances of this kind of balloon activity have been observed previously over the past several years,”
Pentagon Press Secretary - Pat Ryder
Actual Pentagon Briefing
https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/3287204/senior-defense-official-holds-a-background-briefing-on-high-altitude-surveillan/
Forbes article
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattnovak/2023/02/04/yes-chinese-spy-balloons-flew-over-the-us-when-president-trump-was-in-office-too/?sh=1a8f28293ea3
This thread is great but it belongs in the humor section.
PS to add; The fighters involves were reported to have used the call signs FRANKO1 and FRANKO2 in honor of a WW-1 pilot Lt. Frank Luke Jr who was awarded the Medal of Honor for shooting down over a dozen enemy aircraft in just 10 days, including 10 enemy observation balloons, and a total of 14 balloons in all!! He was the first aviator to be awarded the M.O.H. for his actions. Kudos to our guys for giving this some cool context!!
BYU provides only unsubstantiated articles by anonymous sources that will not reveal who they are or the source of their less than stellar information.
this sounds like another item to divert peoples attention so our politicians can do something under cover. S?P
Trump was possibly not informed of the Chinese balloon incursion during his tenure as president.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/05/trump-officials-deny-chinese-spy-balloons-00081257
Trump was possibly not informed of the Chinese balloon incursion during his tenure as president.They won't give a date when these 3 balloons supposedly came into American airspace during Trumps presidency which they supposedly didn't know about until after he was out of office.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/05/trump-officials-deny-chinese-spy-balloons-00081257
Trump was possibly not informed of the Chinese balloon incursion during his tenure as president.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/05/trump-officials-deny-chinese-spy-balloons-00081257
I'd rather have some Chinese balloons drifting across the USA mainland than have the mass assault of illegal Democrats crossing our southern border. I'll ignore the Dreaded Canadian Stunt Contingent assault on our northern border for now!
One thing I didn't ever see or hear about was what altitude this balloon was cruising at. Anybody? If low enough, I'd think some Alaskan bush pilot would have taken care of the problem. Or Confederate Airforce? Jeebus... ~~> Steve
Altitude was claimed to be 60,000 feet. That is quite high, and most of our similar research balloons through the years didn't operate that high. I would guess that since this thing had some maneuvering ability, that probably varied. Ability to ascend and descend gives you some control even with out anything else. Lots more questions are being raised almost by the minute, and no believable answers yet as far as I'm concerned!! They knew it was there while over t5he Aleutian islands. Lots of water there, should have dispatched it then. Might have even been a bit lower.
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
Are you really that gullible or does your hatred of Trump blind you from all logic and reason?
In none of my posts have I stated a hatred of Trump. Clearly there is more to this story than the Pentagon are sharing with either the public / press or our former president.
Like what more do you suspect that the Biden regime is unwilling to disclose?
In none of my posts have I stated a hatred of Trump, nor have I disparaged his personal appearance as you suggest. Clearly there is more to this story than the Pentagon are sharing with either the public / press or our former president.
This was clearly before Biden, during Presidents Trumps period of office information was obviously being withheld.
And what demonstrable proof do you have access to to irrefutably prove the Trump administration covered up Chinese balloon overflights of the continental US and Hawaii?
None - The Pentagon is not the Trump administration.Notice that nowhere in this quote that you posted does it say that the "intelligence community " is prepared to brief Trump officials on the 3 balloon incursions into American airspace during his time as President. It says they would brief them on China's surveillance program.
“This information was discovered after the prior administration left. The intelligence community is prepared to offer key officials from the Trump administration briefings on [China’s] surveillance program,” (quote)
I would add that questioning the Government and any of it's officials or presidents (past or present) is one of the core values that makes America great. It is something that gets you jailed or worse somewhere like China. Being slavish to an individual politician is, I think un-American, these folks are there to SERVE US, not the other way around.
This was clearly before Biden, during Presidents Trumps period of office information was obviously being withheld.
If a neighbor inadvertently happens to let his dog stray away and poops on your patio do you take pictures and slaughter the pup? Ok so he intentionally allows the dog to poop on your patio, the best diplomacy is to at least bring the poop in a bag back to the neighbor and discuss his action before going to guns. Why don't we simply contact the Chinese ask them if they want their trash back and meet to share a cold Tsingtao!!!
If a neighbor inadvertently happens to let his dog stray away and poops on your patio do you take pictures and slaughter the pup? Ok so he intentionally allows the dog to poop on your patio, the best diplomacy is to at least bring the poop in a bag back to the neighbor and discuss his action before going to guns. Why don't we simply contact the Chinese ask them if they want their trash back and meet to share a cold Tsingtao!!!
What do you do if the neighbor trains his dog to poop on you lawn, and go through your personal items and carrying some of them off with him? And his dog may be carrying rabies or the plague, it may be perfectly healthy, you don't know.
Good neighbors do not train dogs to poop on your lawn, and take measures to put a stop it if they find out. Not come up with the most ridiculous cock-and-bull stories to try to excuse it when they get caught.
At least the Chinese Communist Party makes no real pretense that they are our enemies. What is so disturbing is that they can still find willing dupes/Lenin's "useful idiots" in the USA to carry their water for them, and pretend that this is just a minor neighborhood squabble.
Hitler told us exactly what he wanted to do, no one believed him, pretended every which way possible that he would never actually do it, even when he started. He wrote an entire book to document it!
Stalin and Kruschev told us what they were going to do, then did everything possible to carry it out, while people came up with excuse after excuse for them even as they did it. They were only stopped at enormous cost with some people here opposing it every inch of the way, even today making excuses for them.
Radical Islam told us what they were going to do, then proceeded to do it, while we all treated it like it was a minor misunderstanding or our own fault.
Vladimir Putin has been talking about restoring the USSR for years, and invaded and took over a country with hardly a peep of protest, and a few years later, did it again, and there are still people arguing against stopping it
Now, president Xi (who is now a dictator-for-life) is telling us exactly what they want to do, and is taking logical actions to achieve that goal. And we still have people trying to dismiss it or treating it as a minor dispute between good neighbors.
These people tell you who and what they are with *PLENTY* of warning.
Brett
Shift your thoughts to the disaster in Turkey it'd be time better spent.
Shift your thoughts to the disaster in Turkey it'd be time better spent.
Shift your thoughts to the disaster in Turkey it'd be time better spent.
There is a major earth quake in that region about once every year or two. It's kind of a common occurrence in that part of the world. As heartless as it may sound, I think that Turkey and the surrounding countries should be prepared to deal with this, as it happens so frequently, and be more experienced at it than anyone in the US is. We really can't afford to send any aid anyway, unless they want to divert money that has been handed out to other undeserving agencies and countries. It's time to turn the money tap OFF!! We are over 30 TRILLION dollars in debt!!!!! You can't run your house hold like this. Some people in congress and financial experts all say that we should be prepared for some serious pain in the near future!! I think that members of Congress, both current and past members, should be in on some of the pain because they helped put us in this situation. Serious cut backs in all areas, except social Security and Medicare. I busted my ass for 50 years looking forward to my retirement and now that I'm here they want to make cuts to SS!! Well, how about we cut back on welfare, seriously and effectively go after the fraudsters and eliminate them Grandpa Joe can put them to work at all of these jobs he das he "created". Cut out all these ridiculous Government grants to study useless stuff. Stop paying for "gender reassignment procedures" for convicted criminals. It's time to go old school hard ass on things in certain areas of our government, both local and nation wide. If people think that hey have it rough now, just wait to see what it will be like if things do not change!! People have had things far too good for far too long and think some really bad JuJu can't happen to them. Well, there is no one bigger than us out there, and no one to come to our rescue when it all hits the fan!!
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
There is a major earth quake in that region about once every year or two. It's kind of a common occurrence in that part of the world. As heartless as it may sound, I think that Turkey and the surrounding countries should be prepared to deal with this, as it happens so frequently, and be more experienced at it than anyone in the US is. We really can't afford to send any aid anyway, unless they want to divert money that has been handed out to other undeserving agencies and countries. It's time to turn the money tap OFF!! We are over 30 TRILLION dollars in debt!!!!! You can't run your house hold like this. Some people in congress and financial experts all say that we should be prepared for some serious pain in the near future!! I think that members of Congress, both current and past members, should be in on some of the pain because they helped put us in this situation. Serious cut backs in all areas, except social Security and Medicare. I busted my ass for 50 years looking forward to my retirement and now that I'm here they want to make cuts to SS!! Well, how about we cut back on welfare, seriously and effectively go after the fraudsters and eliminate them Grandpa Joe can put them to work at all of these jobs he das he "created". Cut out all these ridiculous Government grants to study useless stuff. Stop paying for "gender reassignment procedures" for convicted criminals. It's time to go old school hard ass on things in certain areas of our government, both local and nation wide. If people think that hey have it rough now, just wait to see what it will be like if things do not change!! People have had things far too good for far too long and think some really bad JuJu can't happen to them. Well, there is no one bigger than us out there, and no one to come to our rescue when it all hits the fan!!
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
Guess you Trumpist have to get old and die out. Oh. Soon. I guess. Great State of the Union last night. Two years of fabulous progress. The Orange Con who lies about everything, who argues to abrogate the constitution because he lost the election fair and square, who sucks up to Fascists wherever. Well. Take him. He's yours. Guess when he's indicted, finally, for all his crimes, you'll march somewhere with your AR-15 lapel pins and firearms and get thrown in the clinker. Or do so in your bleak and horrifying fantasies.
Guess you Trumpist have to get old and die out. Oh. Soon. I guess. Great State of the Union last night. Two years of fabulous progress. The Orange Con who lies about everything, who argues to abrogate the constitution because he lost the election fair and square, who sucks up to Fascists wherever. Well. Take him. He's yours. Guess when he's indicted, finally, for all his crimes, you'll march somewhere with your AR-15 lapel pins and firearms and get thrown in the clinker. Or do so in your bleak and horrifying fantasies.
Ah, Dennis, it's good we can always count on you for your "yada, yada, yada ..." - though maybe some day you'll actually discuss FACTS?
Speaking of those AR-15s: as long as you and the likes of you keep re-electing the likes of Sheila Jackson Lee (who actually writes LAW when she's not taking selfies, showing off her ring or having her hair done), we can be certain intelligence is mostly missing in one aisle of Congress!
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/09/23/watch-sheila-jackson-lees-take-on-ar-15s-reiterates-how-little-she-knows-about-n2553510 (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/09/23/watch-sheila-jackson-lees-take-on-ar-15s-reiterates-how-little-she-knows-about-n2553510)
I suspect most of us who aren't ... um, er, ah ... sexually attracted to furniture think rather differently than you. Which makes you unique, Maple (or Walnut, or Cherry?) Man!
Dennis
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There is a major earth quake in that region about once every year or two. It's kind of a common occurrence in that part of the world. As heartless as it may sound, I think that Turkey and the surrounding countries should be prepared to deal with this, as it happens so frequently, and be more experienced at it than anyone in the US is. We really can't afford to send any aid anyway, unless they want to divert money that has been handed out to other undeserving agencies and countries. It's time to turn the money tap OFF!! We are over 30 TRILLION dollars in debt!!!!! You can't run your house hold like this. Some people in congress and financial experts all say that we should be prepared for some serious pain in the near future!! I think that members of Congress, both current and past members, should be in on some of the pain because they helped put us in this situation. Serious cut backs in all areas, except social Security and Medicare. I busted my ass for 50 years looking forward to my retirement and now that I'm here they want to make cuts to SS!! Well, how about we cut back on welfare, seriously and effectively go after the fraudsters and eliminate them Grandpa Joe can put them to work at all of these jobs he das he "created". Cut out all these ridiculous Government grants to study useless stuff. Stop paying for "gender reassignment procedures" for convicted criminals. It's time to go old school hard ass on things in certain areas of our government, both local and nation wide. If people think that hey have it rough now, just wait to see what it will be like if things do not change!! People have had things far too good for far too long and think some really bad JuJu can't happen to them. Well, there is no one bigger than us out there, and no one to come to our rescue when it all hits the fan!!
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
Guess you Trumpist have to get old and die out. Oh. Soon. I guess. Great State of the Union last night. Two years of fabulous progress. The Orange Con who lies about everything, who argues to abrogate the constitution because he lost the election fair and square, who sucks up to Fascists wherever. Well. Take him. He's yours. Guess when he's indicted, finally, for all his crimes, you'll march somewhere with your AR-15 lapel pins and firearms and get thrown in the clinker. Or do so in your bleak and horrifying fantasies.
Guess you Trumpist have to get old and die out. Oh. Soon. I guess. Great State of the Union last night. Two years of fabulous progress.Dennis Have you checked gas and food prices. It's been a bad two years for me. Of course according to you it's all Trumps fault. This is of course true. He didn't manage to get elected and Biden destroyed all of the good things Trump put in place. HB~>
Like I mentioned earlier....on the counter next to the cash register.
Where does it end?
Like I mentioned earlier....on the counter next to the cash register.
I would be shocked if anyone here besides you knew what you are talking about.
Dan, your statement about SS cuts...are you referring to the discussion being kicked around by some of the republicans, about raising the retirement age to 70, right?
Norm
Nope, McCarthy says that's of the table. Democrats were talking about it also. They used to pull this same crap in years past, but now realize just how many of us there are on SS now and we all vote!! And don't forget it was the Democrats under Johnson that raided the SS fund and made it part of the general fund so they could give more of it away. It should be written in stone some where, if you do not pay in, you do not take out!!! It should be hands off across the board. The tax issue is another one of the smoke and mirror issues that is used to distract and misdirect attention saying the the rich don't pay their fair share. If you look into it the ones crying the loudest about are the ones taking the most advantage of the loopholes and such, including the blubbering, drooling idiot that we have residing in the White House. He and Jill publish "children's books" on the side, most likely as a money laundering scheme when no one wants to buy Hunter's sham paintings, and they have been caught in several compromising positions tax wise. They just have power over the press to cover it up. The same with Sanders and the fake Indian Princess who are both filthy rich since they have gotten into politics. And don't forget Nancy and Paul!! She's been know to call a recess in congress because she had to make an important call right before they pass some legislation that benefits a stock move by here and her old man. They cry about corporate America, but guess who writes the tax code???? Congress!! Congress gets paid a pretty penny to put the loop holes in just where they are needed. And for the most part they are Democrats. Just follow the money like the old saying goes. I just hope the GOP has the balls to really stick the spurs in now that they have the chance and root some of this out, even if it means a few republican head have to roll. Term limits should be the FIRST priority along with strict rules about financial moves and dealing while sitting in Congress. Gut their pay and their benefits. Look into AOC's net worth and find out hw she went from a lowly bar tender to where she is no in just a few short years. People have been crying for years to see Trumps tax returns and now that they have been released attention turns elsewhere, and to paraphrase Grandpa Joe "Guess what!!??" There is nothing to see!! Your tax situation is your business and
privileged information, Corporate taxes and the taxes of the people that own and run big business are far beyond the average persons understanding and that is THEIR business. By the IRS's own statistics, the upper "1%" that everyone screams about and corporate America pay the biggest bulk of the tax revenue it takes in each year. It's just more smoke and mirrors and misdirection. The thing about Trump is, people just don't like him and his personality. He's not a politician, and we all know people don't like politicians. Trump is a salesman, more or less like a used car salesman, and people like them less than they do politicians!!.But in my lifetime, I have seen used car sales people show more compassion to people when it is need than any politician I have ever witnessed. Trump didn't get into the cesspool for the money, he already had all the money he needs. Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, and all the rest are in it for the money. They al are far, far more wealthy than when they started, and it isn't from selling off the stationary that they steal, take home and sell on the side!! That is why the pass bills before they are ever read by anyone!! This is all basic high school civics class stuff , but it's obvious that they haven't taught that in schools since I was there!! The biggest thing that really rubs me the wrong way, is the way Grandpa Joe talks down to us all, like he knows better than us. When it came to our right to take or not take the Covid vaccine, it was "Our patience is wearing thin!!" When it comes to guns, it was "You don't need anything more than a shot gun!" when the real meaning behind the 2nd amendment is that the founders saw the wisdom in having the people, the citizens, armed just as well as the government!! So yeah, give me an AR-15 and an F-15 to go!! When it comes to cars, he tells us to buy electric, not because it's in any way better than what we have now, it's because he and Jill are heavily invested in companies over seas that produce the components and he will profit from that handsomely!! Just follow the money!!
And before anyone says it, no I do not watch Fox News!!
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
Guess you Trumpist have to get old and die out. Oh. Soon. I guess. Great State of the Union last night. Two years of fabulous progress. The Orange Con who lies about everything, who argues to abrogate the constitution because he lost the election fair and square, who sucks up to Fascists wherever. Well. Take him. He's yours. Guess when he's indicted, finally, for all his crimes, you'll march somewhere with your AR-15 lapel pins and firearms and get thrown in the clinker. Or do so in your bleak and horrifying fantasies.
Rather than tearing and fighting with each other over this issue, we can each apply an effective solution:
STOP BUYING SMIC!!!
SMIC= sh!t made in China
It is not always easy to determine if something is SMIC since Amazon and other companies hide the manufacturing sources of their products, but it can be done. If every American concerned about the Chinese spy-balloon stopped buying SMIC the CCP would no longer have the funds to play their obnoxious games.
Guess you Trumpist have to get old and die out. Oh. Soon. I guess.I won't comment on the rest of your delusional rant, but this line has absolutely no place in this forum and for that matter anywhere.
So,,, the Chinese figured if they put up a spy balloon at 60,000 feet, it would be so high that no one would notice.
Now, that's funny!
What gets me is this thing was "leaked to the public" AFTER it had been discovered "over Montana?" So NORAD (or Space Force) never saw it approach our land mass? It couldn't have been taken out at 11 miles high while still just entering our Internationally recognized airspace? I doubt getting shot down 5 miles from the coast that it could drift over and onto our land mass as it came tumbling down. I dunno...maybe it's horizontal speed was 700 mph...maybe it could have drifted several miles laterally. I don't think we were told how far it drifted after being hit...and THAT would lend credence to why it wasn't eliminated earlier. Hmmm. I do believe it would have been a danger to anyone in the debris field if hit directly over US soil. But doing it AFTER it over-flew the country was just too late.
Of course, someone stated that biden was responsible for "two years of fabulous progress" and another referred to Trump as a "jerk".
Well, for any of you that support this POS occupying the White House, check out a few things he's accomplished.
I thought there could never be a worst president than obummer but I was wrong - POS biden is worse.
And here I thought I joined a model airplane forum. Love the information I can get here, but I have to say that out of all of the hobby forums I’ve belonged to ( guitars, dirt bikes, tube amps, etc. ) this place is The Most political one I’ve ever seen. Wow.
And here I thought I joined a model airplane forum. Love the information I can get here, but I have to say that out of all of the hobby forums I’ve belonged to ( guitars, dirt bikes, tube amps, etc. ) this place is The Most political one I’ve ever seen. Wow.
I would agree with you; I think that it is also a reflection of the fact that much of the membership is older. This is the only forum that I belong to with an obituary section (In Memory of friends). I do not mean any disrespect by it, I have been around model airplanes for a long time and enjoy reading the tributes, etc. that get posted in that section. After all, this is mostly a social activity with a airplanes sprinkled on it. Nonetheless, having such a section is unusual.
No doubt. We're being forced to live our lives suffering from the POS and his herd of sheep moronic agendas. Even worse is all those same Libtards are simply too stupid to see it or ever figure it out. And, they're still capable of breeding. HB~>
So, being elderly is a crime. Being a conservative and pro America 🇺🇸 and believing in the constitution and the rule of law is a crime? If so, then I refuse to give in to those that would that would give in to the chaos!
So, what control line airplanes do you possess, fly, build, etc.? Just curious.
STOP
Reporting this post. as long as it does not get personal I am going to let this go. So many times the left wants to censor conservative thought and expression. As far as facts go can anyone tell me they are doing better now than just 2 years ago?
As far as facts go can anyone tell me they are doing better now than just 2 years ago?
Robert,
I do all the cooking/house work etc. for my disabled wife. And I can tall you that I scrutinize all the "HIGH" prices of groceries etc.,etc.............thanks to the moron Joe. y1
Jerry
There is no question that things have gotten more expensive in the US, but this is also true of other countries as well (Germany 8.5%, Peru 8.6%, Spain 5.5%, Japan 4%, US 6.5% or so, this is as of the end of last month). Up until recently the world had an economic trifecta but COVID changed that:
- Cheap capital (i.e. low interest rates, not anymore)
- Cheap labor (mostly China. Mexico is actually becoming cost competitive with China as China becomes more expensive. I think that we are currently politically too short sighted to see that opportunity...)
- Cheap energy. COVID affected demand which affected production, at least in the US production has mostly recovered but markets are tight, specially with part of Russia's production out of the game.
None of those things was affected by "COVID". They were all created by *our insane overreaction to "COVID"*, in particular, out-of-control government spending, and that is nearly 100% attributable to the left and their hysteria campaign. This was predicted nearly from the beginning, lots of people knew what was going to happen - and they were all shouted down by people screeching about "safety".
That's exactly the sort of thing Bob was talking about above - any mention of any of these side effects, or the ineffective response, was intentionally and proudly shut down as "misinformation" or "conspiracy theories" - despite the fact they are proving to have been accurate.
Brett
I would disagree for a couple of reasons:
1) China came up with the zero COVID policy on their own, they basically shutdown the country of their own volition. It did have an impact on the availability of labor. We had not control over that.
2) The world was observing the running of an experiment live during the pandemic. It had not happened before and I do believe that they reacted in the best way they could based on the data they had at the time. We saw this happen on many other countries as well. Medicine is not as precise as people would like to think; it is very easy to point out the errors after the fact. Back in 1918 during the Spanish Flu pandemic they imposed some of the same restrictions as we saw during COVID; the difference was that back then people were not as mobile as today.
3) The CDC is good about statistics and during the peak of the pandemic there was a significant increase in what they call excess deaths (deaths which the usual year to year statistics cannot account for). If you can explain it based on something else I am all ears. The pandemic was real and I believe that most of us know of at least one person who passed as a result of it (in my case 6). In my view, over-reaction is very loaded term; either way the people making the decision will be blamed for either not doing enough or doing too much and not knowing what to do. And this is trying to decide based on data that changes from week to week. On a more personal level my sister in law is a department head at a Florida hospital; it was very rough going for her for a couple of years.
4) Once you had shut downs in the US demand for oil went down which affected production. Oil from tar sands or fracking need a certain price point to be economically feasible; the really low prices we saw during the pandemic were good for us but not those producers. Production has mostly recovered since, last time I checked we were within 5% of the previous peak.
In the end, for all of those who believe that it was grossly mishandled I would love to know what YOU would have done differently and based on what knowledge. For this, I rather follow what the CDC suggests. Call me sheep if you like but listening to my Dr. has kept relatively healthy all of these years.
I didn’t mean to inflame this even further, it’s just that I saw on sticky that said “no political comments” so I was surprised at some of them here. My political beliefs are up to me to share if I choose, I guess. And I choose not to here. It’s a rabbit hole that only seems to anger people. So, back to balloons, ….This thread is not in the right forum. It should be in the Supporters Room. Politics are not supposed to be here but most of us are pretty tolerant. If it doesn't get out of control, Sparkey pretty much lets it play out. Easy to ignore.
I’m not a fan of balloons. With or without people hanging from them. Nor helicopters.
Ah, Dennis, it's good we can always count on you for your "yada, yada, yada ..." - though maybe some day you'll actually discuss FACTS?
Speaking of those AR-15s: as long as you and the likes of you keep re-electing the likes of Sheila Jackson Lee (who actually writes LAW when she's not taking selfies, showing off her ring or having her hair done), we can be certain intelligence is mostly missing in one aisle of Congress!
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/09/23/watch-sheila-jackson-lees-take-on-ar-15s-reiterates-how-little-she-knows-about-n2553510 (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/09/23/watch-sheila-jackson-lees-take-on-ar-15s-reiterates-how-little-she-knows-about-n2553510)
I suspect most of us who aren't ... um, er, ah ... sexually attracted to furniture think rather differently than you. Which makes you unique, Maple (or Walnut, or Cherry?) Man!
Dennis
I would disagree for a couple of reasons:
1) China came up with the zero COVID policy on their own, they basically shutdown the country of their own volition. It did have an impact on the availability of labor. We had not control over that.
2) The world was observing the running of an experiment live during the pandemic. It had not happened before and I do believe that they reacted in the best way they could based on the data they had at the time. We saw this happen on many other countries as well. Medicine is not as precise as people would like to think; it is very easy to point out the errors after the fact. Back in 1918 during the Spanish Flu pandemic they imposed some of the same restrictions as we saw during COVID; the difference was that back then people were not as mobile as today.
3) The CDC is good about statistics and during the peak of the pandemic there was a significant increase in what they call excess deaths (deaths which the usual year to year statistics cannot account for). If you can explain it based on something else I am all ears. The pandemic was real and I believe that most of us know of at least one person who passed as a result of it (in my case 6). In my view, over-reaction is very loaded term; either way the people making the decision will be blamed for either not doing enough or doing too much and not knowing what to do. And this is trying to decide based on data that changes from week to week. On a more personal level my sister in law is a department head at a Florida hospital; it was very rough going for her for a couple of years.
If you believe what you've posted, I'll be happy to call you a sheep. An uneducated sheep.
4) Once you had shut downs in the US demand for oil went down which affected production. Oil from tar sands or fracking need a certain price point to be economically feasible; the really low prices we saw during the pandemic were good for us but not those producers. Production has mostly recovered since, last time I checked we were within 5% of the previous peak.
In the end, for all of those who believe that it was grossly mishandled I would love to know what YOU would have done differently and based on what knowledge. For this, I rather follow what the CDC suggests. Call me sheep if you like but listening to my Dr. has kept relatively healthy all of these years.
Been to Guam twice and never noticed if it had a slight list or not. LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~Begs the question, "Just how stupid are you"?? D>K
Dennis,
I have family that lives abroad as well, the levels of vaccine hesitancy (as it is politely called) make the US rather unique and much of it inspired on by information of questionable value. That "sudden death" or what ever video is called is an example of that; if you believe that a mortician's medical knowledge surpasses that of a coroner then be my guest. That level of skepticism is not seen in other parts of the word. The idea behind vaccines in general is that the vaccinated population will generally have better outcomes than one which is unvaccinated. With the amount of information circulating in the US one would think that vaccine related issues are so prevalent that most of us would be aware of at least one instance. I know of none, but I do know the names of 6 who passed as a result of COVID; all of them before vaccines became widely available...
Take a look at the enclosed showing US oil production; the latest number in the graph is from Nov of '22:
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRFPUS2&f=M
As you can see production has almost fully recovered. Regarding the leases I would imagine that you understand that leases granted today do not affect production today but then again, the oil companies are sitting on leases which are currently undeveloped:
https://westernpriorities.org/2022/03/by-the-numbers-oil-industry-awash-in-permits-leases-while-pushing-for-more-drilling%EF%BF%BC/#:~:text=In%20total%2C%20the%20oil%20industry,but%20are%20choosing%20not%20to.
Dennis,
I have family that lives abroad as well, the levels of vaccine hesitancy (as it is politely called) make the US rather unique and much of it inspired on by information of questionable value. That "sudden death" or what ever video is called is an example of that; if you believe that a mortician's medical knowledge surpasses that of a coroner then be my guest. That level of skepticism is not seen in other parts of the word. The idea behind vaccines in general is that the vaccinated population will generally have better outcomes than one which is unvaccinated. With the amount of information circulating in the US one would think that vaccine related issues are so prevalent that most of us would be aware of at least one instance. I know of none, but I do know the names of 6 who passed as a result of COVID; all of them before vaccines became widely available...
Take a look at the enclosed showing US oil production; the latest number in the graph is from Nov of '22:
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRFPUS2&f=M
As you can see production has almost fully recovered. Regarding the leases I would imagine that you understand that leases granted today do not affect production today but then again, the oil companies are sitting on leases which are currently undeveloped:
https://westernpriorities.org/2022/03/by-the-numbers-oil-industry-awash-in-permits-leases-while-pushing-for-more-drilling%EF%BF%BC/#:~:text=In%20total%2C%20the%20oil%20industry,but%20are%20choosing%20not%20to.
Very interesting analysis. Were it coming from other sources I would give it more weight but the graphs do apparently represent factual data, it is just how you interpret it that makes the difference. The only explanation I can think of for high gas prices is that supply is not keeping up with demand and why is that when the charts indicate that it is. I do place a lot of the reason for high prices on the oil companies, but I place the blame on the administration for creating the environment they are reacting to. How do you get investors and banks to invest when the administration's policy is to eliminate oil? Expecting a business to act in the best interests of the consumer is hogwash. They do so only because it is in their best interest. In this case, since petrochemicals are essentially a commodity over which they have little price control, the market, not the consumer is their customer. If the market demands a greater return on investment, they have little choice but to respond. With cost fixed by the market, demand fixed by the consumer all they have is price. Some will be surprised to know that selling less at a higher price produces greater profit. There are many permutations of the basic profit formula. Profit = Price - Cost where PRICE was fixed by the market. For whatever reason, and I blame government for most of it, corporations have been forced into Price = Profit + Cost where PROFIT is the fixed component.
Granted, this is a massive oversimplification of the problem, but we are falling into the trap of blaming the companies for reacting to what they have little control over and asking the government to fix it. Please show me where in history that has worked. If left alone, a market will fall into balance and stay there.
Ken
Very interesting analysis. Were it coming from other sources I would give it more weight but the graphs do apparently represent factual data, it is just how you interpret it that makes the difference. The only explanation I can think of for high gas prices is that supply is not keeping up with demand and why is that? The charts indicate that it is. I do place a lot of the reason for high prices on the oil companies, but I place the blame on the administration for creating the environment they are reacting to. How do you get investors and banks to invest when the administration's policy is to eliminate oil? Expecting a business to act in the best interests of the consumer is hogwash. They do so only because it is in their best interest. In this case, since petrochemicals are essentially a commodity over which they have little price control, the market, not the consumer is their customer. If the market demands a greater return on investment, they have little choice but to respond. With cost fixed by the market, demand fixed by the consumer all they have is price. There are many permutations of the basic profit formula. Profit = Price - Cost where PRICE was fixed by the market. For whatever reason, and I blame government for most of it, corporations have been forced into Price = Profit + Cost where PROFIT is the fixed component.
Granted, this is a massive oversimplification of the problem, but we are falling into the trap of blaming the companies for reacting to what they have little control over and asking the government to fix it. Please show me where in history that has worked. If left alone, a market will fall into balance and stay there.
Ken
Been to Guam twice and never noticed if it had a slight list or not. LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~Begs the question, "Just how stupid are you"?? D>K
For over 72 hours now, the administration has not explained or provided proof about what are the four objects that they have allegedly shot down. This brings up the old axiom, how do you cover up a lie? Tell a bigger lie!
Well, now it is over 5 days since this latest narrative has begun and the Biden Regime is refusing to provide visual or concrete evidence of the existence of the latest alleged shoot downs. Makes one wonder.
Been to Guam twice and never noticed if it had a slight list or not. LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~Begs the question, "Just how stupid are you"?? D>KI want to know how the Admrial held a straight face when answering the question. That's discipline