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Title: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 11, 2018, 10:15:25 AM
Well, by popular demand, looks like I'm going to move forward and do a Build on my TEXACO 13 project. I've already posted some information here and there.

A really slow build to play it safe.  ;D   Not sure where to place the Thread yet?

Semi-Scale in appearance but it will stunt, probably not the pattern, but R/C throttled for unlimited touch n goes. Just a colorful sport model to have some fun with.

Fun.  #^

I've had this aircraft on my mind since the late 80's. It's about time I did something about it.

Aircraft and my drawing.


Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Gary Dowler on December 11, 2018, 10:35:17 AM
Ought to be an interesting project. Post pics as you go.

Gary
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: John Rist on December 11, 2018, 11:00:14 AM
Looks like it should more than qualify as a scale airplane for a contest.  It should fit very nicely in the sport scale category.  If not it will compete in the Fun Scale category.  Looks like you are going to model it after an airplane you own.  If so good color photos should be a snap.  If it will do loops and wing overs it will be a slam dunk on the flight score.  Go to the AMA site and look at the rules.  I have flown some scale.  Great bunch of people.  Really fun contests.  Also lots of info in the scale section of this forum.   #^   #^   y1
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Glenn (Gravitywell) Reach on December 11, 2018, 11:07:49 AM
Hi Charles....here's a little something to wet your appetite!  Cast iron baby.  I've noticed that it doesn't seem to be very floaty! LOL
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Dave_Trible on December 11, 2018, 11:40:26 AM
That full scale original, the Travelaire Mystery Ship, hangs  in the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry.  I’ve thought to do it myself as a full stunter- someday.

Dave
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 11, 2018, 03:11:03 PM
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Ought to be an interesting project. Post pics as you go.

Gary,

Thanks for the reply.

I will Post photos, that's part of what a build is all about and it adds interest to contributing to the Forum.

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Looks like it should more than qualify as a scale airplane for a contest.  It should fit very nicely in the sport scale category.

John,

Thanks for the reply. Well you know I have little interest in competing, but you never know. My luck, first place will be an ARF, and I won't even make the board.  LL~

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Hi Charles....here's a little something to wet your appetite!  Cast iron baby.  I've noticed that it doesn't seem to be very floaty! LOL

Glenn,

Hey! Hey! Thanks for the reply. I think I have a cast airplane, but can't rember what it is?  n~

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That full scale original, the Travelaire Mystery Ship, hangs  in the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry.  I’ve thought to do it myself as a full stunter- someday.

Dave,

Yes, Chicago, I know that. There's also a dozen photos on line of the aircraft taken there. Many views and living color.

Thanks for the reply.

Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: John Rist on December 11, 2018, 04:46:44 PM

John,

Thanks for the reply. Well you know I have little interest in competing, but you never know. My luck, first place will be an ARF, and I won't even make the board.  LL~



I never came in first.  That's not the point.  The point is getting together with a great bunch of folks and to see and be seen.   #^
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 15, 2018, 04:15:50 PM
I never came in first.  That's not the point.  The point is getting together with a great bunch of folks and to see and be seen.   #^

John,

I just saw your reply.

That is really funny.  LL~ LL~
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 20, 2018, 06:53:42 PM
All tail feathers are drawn.

I'll print them to scale and see if I have the balsa needed to make them.

If not,

Ring, ring, "Hello, Tom Morris."

Maybe I'll build the model from the back forward.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 21, 2018, 08:50:58 PM
Working around this Smoothie ARF wing creates issues, it's not the same aspect ratio as the TEXACO 13.

So Semi-Scale it will be.

Looks like the wing is 1/7 scale and the fuselage is 6.8 scale. And I'm not redrawing the fuselage parts.

I gotta check my math.

On the ground viewed at 300 ft you won't be able to see the difference.

Stab area increased a tad and the wing re-located a bit for better balance.

Same with the gear.

I'd like to see this Thread moved to Scale Models Forum.

Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 22, 2018, 06:35:39 AM
With your own design and scratch building, you're faced with questions not normally considered when building a stock kit.

For example:

Size of the model and power choice. Engine or motor? 

How much detail will I need with my personal drawings/plans? The more detail the better, possibly. Extra work.

Do I cut this "Smoothie" wing in half and rejoin it for a small dihedral? Looks nicer. Extra work.

Ailerons? Pen lines to represent them or cut them out for a more interesting and scale look? Extra work.

Spring or shocked landing gear? Keeps the model from getting beat up a bit. Extra work.

1/8 or 3/32 gear wire? Weight trade off for strength? Not necessarily.

Removable wheels? Benefits. Extra work.

Wood selection? Totally your own decision. Give up strength for light? Maybe not. Use what wood you have? I like that.

Type of construction? Past building experience and the type of models you have experience building can determine this. Still have to pay attention to wood choice.

Fiberglass parts? Could work in areas depending on the model. May or may not save weight and could or could not offer benefits. Extra work.

Removable rudder and vertical stab? Makes shipping easier, smaller box if the model gets sold. Extra work.

Adjustable elevator or not? Small hatch. Extra work.

HDWE choice? Tom Morris. This one is easy.

Surface and finishing details. How far do you elect to take it? Boring, mild, excessive, or really knock um dead! Extra work.

Could be penalties for the latter. LL~

For those that scratch build scale or semi-scale models,

What have I left out?








Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 22, 2018, 01:17:33 PM
Robart,

Thank you for the move to Scale Models. I won't bet buried as quickly.  LL~

Oh My Gosh!!

I got something on paper!

Tail feather plans.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 23, 2018, 08:19:04 AM
While a scratch built scale model airplane gets built and progresses or goes together, especially one that is designed by the builder, there are many changes that take place in the process. Changes from beginning to end.

I write notes to myself so I can keep track of the changes and tasks.

I'm curious if others do also?
 
The drawings are important as is the accuracy of part assembly. I cannot believe how many changes I've made to my drawings, which I actually started in 2004, till this day.

I just made a change this morning with the shape of the turtle deck.

If I elect to cut the wing in half for a small dihedral, many fuselage formers will have to be changed, plus the pieces that become the motor mount sides and firewall.

It never ends.

I use different colors in my drawings, makes it a bit easier to keep track of what's going on.




Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 23, 2018, 05:04:08 PM
Spent an hour or so on my little sweetheart's tail feathers, you would be surprised as to what you can accomplish when you glue paper to balsa.

Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 25, 2018, 06:12:46 PM
All Builds get off to a slow start, drawings, flat cut tail feathers, but I promise the Build will get more interesting.

Faux ribs on all tail feathers.

Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 26, 2018, 06:49:36 PM
Spent some time this evening fine tuning my plans.

Turtle deck change, to a more scale outline, required the change of a half dozen fuselage formers.

Might just be able to print these plans tomorrow.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 27, 2018, 12:37:29 PM
I am getting so close to printing out my fuselage formers and close to cutting them.

Scale, what a drag, I wish the formers were a tad simpler.


Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 27, 2018, 07:06:36 PM
Here's most of the fuselage parts "nested" for printing.

Be different if arranged for laser cutting. I'll glue this stuff to balsa or ply and do the cutting by hand. Finish the edges with a sanding.

Goes quickly because it's fun, I'll do a second sheet for the other parts.



Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 28, 2018, 10:50:48 AM
I printed my TEXACO 13 parts this morning.

Probably print the plans over the weekend.

Thought some color might spark interest.

The TEXACO 13 is a great aircraft to model with an interesting history.

My excitement won't go away. I'm looking forward to paint!
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 30, 2018, 04:08:58 PM
I bit the bullet so to speak and redid the aft fuselage formers as per drawings in the Travel Air book.

Photos of the aircraft seem to back up these cross section drawings.

Sorry about the photos, I use my phone instead of my Nikon. Saves me steps.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Glenn (Gravitywell) Reach on December 31, 2018, 11:15:23 AM
Hey Charles.....Merry Xmas and happy New Year to you and yours.  Fascinating as always.  So what is the wingspan on this beauty and what are you thinking of powering her with?
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 01, 2019, 11:45:25 AM
Hey Charles.....Merry Xmas and happy New Year to you and yours.  Fascinating as always.  So what is the wingspan on this beauty and what are you thinking of powering her with?

Glenn,

Thank you and same to you.

2019 will be a great year to build and contribute to the Stunt Hanger Forum.

The wingspan is only 52". I'm using a modified Smoothie ARF wing.

I'm giving power some thought, I'm even considering IC. A vintage racer deserves the smoke and noise.

Scale models, as complicated as they can be with construction and detailing, it's never to early to examine needed HDWE and to address your stash of contest grade balsa for the upcoming project.

Glenn, thanks for the reply!

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Dan McEntee on January 01, 2019, 01:59:25 PM
https://stunthanger.com/smf/open-forum/forum-connection-problems/


I know you don't pay attention to such things, but Bob is having problems with the site and has been working on it for several days, and posted on the main forum about it. Check out the link above. Maybe you ought to cut back on meaningless photos and help out with the situation, and at least quit loading photos until he gives the all clear.
   just sayin',
 
  Dan McEntee
   
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Dennis Toth on January 02, 2019, 06:34:50 PM
Charles,
Great build thread, I sent you some photos I took of diecast Texaco's that were on a wall near a job site I went to last year. There are several Texaco's with different paint trims.


Best,   DennisT
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 15, 2019, 09:33:02 AM
Charles,
Great build thread, I sent you some photos I took of diecast Texaco's that were on a wall near a job site I went to last year. There are several Texaco's with different paint trims.


Best,   DennisT

Dennis,

I've been really busy and haven't checked that email. I have 6 emails.

I'll look today.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 15, 2019, 03:36:58 PM
Dennis,

I've been really busy and haven't checked that email. I have 6 emails.

I'll look today.

Charles

Here's the photos taken by Dennis.

Great collection! My guess is they are glued to the wall?

Thanks again Dennis.

Charles


Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Paul Smith on January 16, 2019, 08:07:17 AM
I printed my TEXACO 13 parts this morning.

Probably print the plans over the weekend.

Thought some color might spark interest.

The TEXACO 13 is a great aircraft to model with an interesting history.

My excitement won't go away. I'm looking forward to paint!

The picture with the inverted Triplane in back is at the Kalamazoo Air Zoo in Michigan.
The model should fly well & be a chore to paint.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 16, 2019, 09:27:25 AM
The picture with the inverted Triplane in back is at the Kalamazoo Air Zoo in Michigan.
The model should fly well & be a chore to paint.

Paul,

Thanks for the reply and looking in.

That Museum is incredible. They have the TEXACO 13 replica?

By "chore," do you mean time consuming or difficult?

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Paul Smith on January 16, 2019, 09:41:34 PM
Yeah, Kalamazoo.  In addition to two buildings, they have a CL circle in between.

The Triplane and Buzz Bomb are replicas, but the Futureliner is GENUINE.  One of only few still in exisitance, most likely Number 10 on loan from Auburn Indiana.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Allen Goff on January 19, 2019, 02:10:53 PM
Charlie, here are some pics of the late Jack Sheeks "Mistery Ship". He competed with it at the Nats and was on the U S Scale team with it.
Shirley, his wife gave it to me to restore. It's slow going but I hope to have it done by summer with hope's of getting it into the AMA museum.
Enjoy.

Blessings
Allen
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Allen Goff on January 19, 2019, 02:11:40 PM
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Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Chris McMillin on February 10, 2019, 06:21:30 PM
Allen,
Could you start a thread about this restoration? I'm interested in the model. Jack was a prolific builder and great flyer. Would love to see his flying competition model coming back to it's original condition. As a seasoned US Team member flown flying model it is an important part of CL Scale. Thanks for your efforts, I'm glad you accepted Shirley's request to restore it.
Chris...

Charlie, here are some pics of the late Jack Sheeks "Mistery Ship". He competed with it at the Nats and was on the U S Scale team with it.
Shirley, his wife gave it to me to restore. It's slow going but I hope to have it done by summer with hope's of getting it into the AMA museum.
Enjoy.

Blessings
Allen
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on February 21, 2020, 05:15:34 PM
I completed the gear drawing and printed it out. I don't have a printer.

So let me define "printed." I have a vinyl cutter that follows a vector line. It has a blade installed so the machine can cut vinyl.

I remove the blade and install a pen that's designed for my machine. Instead of vinyl I install paper. The results are extremely accurate. I've been doing drawings this way for a long time.

Here's the TEXACO 13 landing gear. Now all I have to do is build both the left and right. Do I see springs there?

Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on March 18, 2020, 04:52:53 PM
Time to bend gear wire.

I don't mind bending wire but this time and this particular gear offers challenges.

Good thing wire is inexpensive.

These rear pieces are completed, well almost. There's another couple of tasks needed on them. 3 more pieces per side and some soldering. I'm not looking forward to it.

Ran out of .125" wire also.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on March 26, 2020, 09:50:09 AM
This is a smoothie wing I'm working with. All I changed was the wing tip outline.

Do I or don't I cut out ailerons? Better look for scale.

Anyway, here's the progress with the landing gear blocks.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on April 03, 2020, 10:10:42 AM
Test line-up for my spring gear. I can't believe I'll be cutting this wing in half for the dihedral.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on April 19, 2020, 10:00:33 AM
Photos to show progress.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Craig Beswick on April 19, 2020, 01:05:29 PM
What size wire is that?

Craig
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on April 19, 2020, 01:35:43 PM


Craig,

.125" or commonly known as 1/8".

I don't think you'll need gear like this because you're building your Travel Air for stunt

I expect to do many touch n go's even on grass. Only reason I did this.

And because I can.  ;D

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on April 20, 2020, 12:34:32 AM
More progress.

I had these teardrop fiberglass wheel pants for years intended for another model. A Sterling PT-17 actually. Good thing I kept the wheel pants.

As you can see, the shape has been changed dramatically. A bit of heat and removal of material.

Took a bit of time, but not as long if they were made of balsa. They have to come apart for tire replacement, if needed.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on May 19, 2020, 06:16:57 PM
I'm going to still drop in some photos from time to time and continue with the Thread.

A bit more on wheel pants. These were actually a teardrop shape. Heat and trimming did the trick.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on May 20, 2020, 07:43:20 AM
Silking the balsa flange.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on May 20, 2020, 01:34:18 PM
Did a wrap with the silk over onto the fiberglass.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on November 11, 2020, 05:40:47 PM
I might just continue with this TEXACO 13 model.

I do have much of the model completed. Fuselage is the easy part.

I'll decide.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 06, 2021, 08:21:07 AM
Well, I'm back on the TEXACO 13 build.  ;D

I opened the plan file and fine tuned the plans. I should be printing the finished plans by mid week and if lucky, I'll be cutting wood.

I'm excited.

CB
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: fred cesquim on December 07, 2021, 04:43:50 AM
looking good! great choyce of plane! i am signed here to follow up
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 07, 2021, 06:23:44 AM
looking good! great choyce of plane! i am signed here to follow up

Fred,

What a guy!

If your interested in the model, I'll be glad to send you a set of plans with the drawings of the parts, for no charge. I'll also pay the shipping.

Let me know.

Thanks for the reply.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: fred cesquim on December 07, 2021, 11:29:50 AM
Fred,

What a guy!

If your interested in the model, I'll be glad to send you a set of plans with the drawings of the parts, for no charge. I'll also pay the shipping.

Let me know.

Thanks for the reply.

Charles
thanks a lot for the VERY kind offer Charles! right now i have too much on my plate ( smith miniplane to be corrected, Aeronca for 2022 season and a striking project for 23/24 this one will take a lot of effort, but may worth it)
please keep posting the progress! looks great!
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 11, 2021, 02:39:43 PM
Not many pieces so far. Designed for electric so you don't need as much strength in wood thickness or choice. More parts to cut.

The paper will peel off if not, a tad of heat will do the trick.

Charles.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 13, 2021, 09:31:45 AM
More formers.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 15, 2021, 06:08:19 PM
Two layers of silk and Deft Wood Lacquer Sealer slopped on, finger rub, and the wing halves are good to go.

Dried with my heat gun. Minutes.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: fred cesquim on December 16, 2021, 06:00:42 AM
progressing fast, lovely plane Charles!
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 17, 2021, 10:30:01 AM
progressing fast, lovely plane Charles!

Fred,

Thank you. I'm currently working on the bell crank mount.

I'm deciding if I should have a removable wing, R/C style??

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 17, 2021, 10:57:23 AM
Poor quality cowling photos from plans.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 17, 2021, 02:37:09 PM
I try to use masking tape or elastic bands before gluing parts. Just to be sure.

I'm thinking 1 degree incidence for the wing and 1 degree fuselage offset.



Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 19, 2021, 07:22:10 AM
Bell cranks! Why does there have to be bell cranks.

I really hate installing these things, especially when the height is just about the same as the horn.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Ken Culbertson on December 19, 2021, 10:38:02 AM
Bell cranks! Why does there have to be bell cranks.

I really hate installing these things, especially when the height is just about the same as the horn.
To crank the bells.  What other reason could there be? ???

Ken
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 20, 2021, 04:11:58 PM
I'll be in Florida for six days so progress will stop on the TEXACO 13. Bummer! ;D

However, I have managed to align and glue the fuselage in place. I did a stab opening for later after some sheeting is applied. Elevator horn worked out for me after all thanks to Perry's photo.

Lots of work building scale models from scratch.

Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 21, 2021, 07:22:34 AM
No motor mount in the above photos. I just epoxied the motor mount this morning.

Photo at 11.00.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 24, 2021, 05:52:11 AM
No motor mount in the above photos. I just epoxied the motor mount this morning.

Photo at 11.00.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 24, 2021, 03:38:38 PM
Scale isn't quick.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 29, 2021, 01:53:54 PM
I put the bell crank in place permanently. It's not really neat, so no photo. ;D

On a more colorful note, it's time to consider graphics. Callie? Yes, I'm kidding.  LL~

Not much on line at the resolution I need to make me happy. Stickers are available but not in the size I need.

Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on December 31, 2021, 08:55:06 AM
Gotta be careful not to damage anything. Just another thing to fix.

I hate lead outs not hidden in the wing.

Charles

Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: kevin king on January 01, 2022, 08:45:42 AM
Nice work Charles.👍
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 02, 2022, 04:26:14 PM
Nice work Charles.👍

Thank you.

You do nice work also.

I hope I put the bell crank in there before I sheeted?  n~

Former lineup. As long as I'm within a half inch.

I hate doing tail wheels. I always wonder if they are strong enough.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: kevin king on January 02, 2022, 11:01:41 PM
What will you power this with?
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 03, 2022, 12:04:57 PM
What will you power this with?

Kevin,

It'll be electric although it's built where it could be IC also.

I was going to go Badass, 3520 790, I believe the numbers are.

But still looking.

Charles

Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Ken Culbertson on January 03, 2022, 03:56:05 PM
Kevin,

It'll be electric although it's built where it could be IC also.

I was going to go Badass, 3520 790, I believe the numbers are.

But still looking.

Charles
Charles, that is a lot of motor for that small a plane but you probably need the weight.  I think the 35xx series has three maybe 4 sizes.  you might want to wait and get the one that is the right length unless you have already measured.  A bunch of us here are using the smaller 3515-710.

Glad to see you building again - Ken
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 03, 2022, 04:49:57 PM
Charles, that is a lot of motor for that small a plane but you probably need the weight.  I think the 35xx series has three maybe 4 sizes.  you might want to wait and get the one that is the right length unless you have already measured.  A bunch of us here are using the smaller 3515-710.

Glad to see you building again - Ken

Ken,

Thank you for your thoughts and for sharing information. It's appreciated.

Here's the thing as you noticed, short nose moment, and a 7" diameter round cowling. I'd like to turn a 13" prop so the model appears to be more scale. I'm told the 3520 will do this with no issues. Fits nicely also because it's offered with a extra long shaft. I'll need an extension for the prop thrust line.

It is a scale model but it has a stunt Smoothie wing. So it won't be just flying level.

7" cowling or not, limited space for the onboard stuff. A 2200 pack will fit vertical behind the firewall which will work well with the 3520.

The Badass stuff is badass expensive. This is why I'm looking and considering advice.

Thanks again.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Ken Culbertson on January 03, 2022, 08:01:16 PM
Ken,

Thank you for your thoughts and for sharing information. It's appreciated.

Here's the thing as you noticed, short nose moment, and a 7" diameter round cowling. I'd like to turn a 13" prop so the model appears to be more scale. I'm told the 3520 will do this with no issues. Fits nicely also because it's offered with a extra long shaft. I'll need an extension for the prop thrust line.

It is a scale model but it has a stunt Smoothie wing. So it won't be just flying level.

7" cowling or not, limited space for the onboard stuff. A 2200 pack will fit vertical behind the firewall which will work well with the 3520.

The Badass stuff is badass expensive. This is why I'm looking and considering advice.

Thanks again.

Charles
Only thing cheaper that I would use is a 3520 Cobra.  Not that much though.  They have prop charts that include lots of 13-15" props so you should be fine.  If you are not going to compete with it in PA which is probably beyond the planes capability anyway, save money on the timer.  A Hubin would work fine.

Ken 
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 03, 2022, 10:56:39 PM
Only thing cheaper that I would use is a 3520 Cobra.  Not that much though.  They have prop charts that include lots of 13-15" props so you should be fine.  If you are not going to compete with it in PA which is probably beyond the planes capability anyway, save money on the timer.  A Hubin would work fine.

Ken
Ken,

This motor was suggested by Mark. Priced nicely.

https://www.altitudehobbies.com/collections/35mm-series/products/leopard-3542-7t-780kv-brushless-airplane-motor

This suggestion by Mark also.

https://www.cobramotorsusa.com/motors-2826-12.html

I still need a bolt on shaft of extra length.

Badass offers one so I have to check the measurements yo see if it will bolt onto either of these. * bucks for the longer shaft.

Thanks for the reply.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Ken Culbertson on January 03, 2022, 11:26:14 PM
Ken,

This motor was suggested by Mark. Priced nicely.

https://www.altitudehobbies.com/collections/35mm-series/products/leopard-3542-7t-780kv-brushless-airplane-motor

This suggestion by Mark also.

https://www.cobramotorsusa.com/motors-2826-12.html

I still need a bolt on shaft of extra length.

Badass offers one so I have to check the measurements yo see if it will bolt onto either of these. * bucks for the longer shaft.

Thanks for the reply.

Charles
I had a Cobra 2826/12.  Powerful and it's longer which may be of benefit.

Ken
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 04, 2022, 07:20:28 PM
I had a Cobra 2826/12.  Powerful and it's longer which may be of benefit.

Ken

Ken, I'm out of town currently visiting my wife's friends without my PC and photos. No photos tonight.

When I get back, I'll take a few photos of the cowling so you can see the issue I'm facing. I have to put a fake radial in the cowling or the model will look horrid. The reason I need a longer shaft.

Thanks for the reply. I'll check that Cobra out.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 05, 2022, 07:37:13 PM
Ken,

Here's the cowling, 7" in diameter.

As you can see, the front is recessed. All of that front recess get's removed and allows for a great looking fake radial. ;D

I do need a longer prop shaft so the motor is as far behind the opening as possible to allow for the fake radial.

That recess is .25" then add another .25" for the prop thrust line forward of that, factor in the prop thickness, washer and a decent amount of threads holding everything together.

Yikes! So, the longer the better and I prefer a bolt on.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: kevin king on January 07, 2022, 12:02:33 PM
Charles, will you be using Masks, or stencils on this plane? Or will you go the vinyl sticker route?
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 07, 2022, 01:29:36 PM
Charles, will you be using Masks, or stencils on this plane? Or will you go the vinyl sticker route?

Kevin,

We both know the short cut is applying vinyl then the final coat of clear.

The graphics are a bit of a way off but to think about finishing, while the build is taking place, is a good thing.

If I use masks/tape and painted everything, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. You would have to get really really close.

Now here's another thing. The model could be finished and cleared then the vinyl graphics could be applied.

Best why if you take making repairs down the road. I expect to fly this one.

Thanks for the reply.

Charles

Nice Tsunami!!



Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: kevin king on January 07, 2022, 01:51:14 PM
Charles I'm glad to see you going full bore on another plane. Especially interested in the finishing part. Doing Scale or semi scale models really adds to the work that needs to be done. Glad your going to fly it too! Myself, if i wanted a model that i dont fly i would go back to building the plastic ones! 😁
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Ken Culbertson on January 07, 2022, 03:44:12 PM
Kevin,

We both know the short cut is applying vinyl then the final coat of clear.

The graphics are a bit of a way off but to think about finishing, while the build is taking place, is a good thing.

If I use masks/tape and painted everything, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. You would have to get really really close.

Now here's another thing. The model could be finished and cleared then the vinyl graphics could be applied.

Best why if you take making repairs down the road. I expect to fly this one.

Thanks for the reply.

Charles

Nice Tsunami!!
Charles - If you are going to fly this one, do yourself a favor and take it for a spin as soon as it is airworthy.  I hate it when I have to dig out the #11 on a finished plane!  The biggest one for me is to make sure the thrust line is right.  It really sucks when you have to move the spinner after blending it in.  You don't have that problem but, no oil = no problems with flying it first, then finishing.

Ken
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 07, 2022, 06:07:42 PM
Charles - If you are going to fly this one, do yourself a favor and take it for a spin as soon as it is airworthy.  I hate it when I have to dig out the #11 on a finished plane!  The biggest one for me is to make sure the thrust line is right.  It really sucks when you have to move the spinner after blending it in.  You don't have that problem but, no oil = no problems with flying it first, then finishing.

Ken

Ken,

Yes, no finish on this model until it flies. The finish can come well after.

I have the CG and plenty of elevator movement which is adjustable, so it should fly well, plus a Smoothie wing.  Weight? I have to get a battery for the scale I have. Then I can weigh things.

I believe I put the cowling photo up. I'm still looking at sizes and performances for a motor.

The Badass 3520 is the only one so far which has a long prop shaft available.

I'm going to take a look at the hole pattern to see if it fits other motors which are less expensive.

Ken, as always, thanks for the reply.

Charles

P.S. Photos tomorrow, interesting ones.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 07, 2022, 06:15:59 PM
Charles I'm glad to see you going full bore on another plane. Especially interested in the finishing part. Doing Scale or semi scale models really adds to the work that needs to be done. Glad your going to fly it too! Myself, if i wanted a model that i dont fly i would go back to building the plastic ones! 😁

Kevin,

Understandable.

I have a long history of building models and selling them. Way back, I did have an interest in flying and flew a great deal, but not so much now. 35 degrees today.

There are some CL guys near me and they did reach out. Maybe I'll hear from them again? But I know someone who is in contact with them.

Yes, I'm trying to move fast on the TEXACO 13. If anyone has preowned equipment I could use in great shape, let me know.

Thanks for the reply.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 08, 2022, 03:06:25 PM
I had no choice but to stop the build to make the instrument panel and "limited" cockpit detail.

Sheeting is next. if I add more detail to the cockpit it can be done after the sheeting of the cockpit side area.

Scale building is a killer.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 09, 2022, 10:24:16 AM
Patterns for all sheeting, just to be sure.

No need to make a mistake using contest grade balsa.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 10, 2022, 06:04:45 PM
More progress.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: kevin king on January 11, 2022, 09:12:52 AM
What did you attach the paper to the parts with?
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Ken Culbertson on January 11, 2022, 09:27:48 AM
More progress.
You need a bowlegged pilot figure! 

Ken
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 11, 2022, 12:56:43 PM
What did you attach the paper to the parts with?

Kevin,

Thanks for the reply.

That's construction paper from any CVS. After you fiddle with the cardboard to your liking, simply place i on the balsa and draw the outline.

With many parts, it's easier to use contact adhesive with paper. Tracing many thin paper pieces is a challenge.
t
The cardboard is a bit thicker and has body.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 11, 2022, 12:58:35 PM
You need a bowlegged pilot figure! 

Ken

Ken,

It's amazing how tight a fit it is for the pilot on the actual aircraft.

No viewing room either.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Craig Beswick on January 11, 2022, 03:07:17 PM
Apparently he had a seat that went up and down so he could taxi.

Craig
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 13, 2022, 08:20:29 AM
Apparently he had a seat that went up and down so he could taxi.

Craig

Craig,

I never read this anywhere? Where did you come by this information.?

Sounds reasonable. However, I know of no tail draggers which had a seat that elevates.

I learned to fly in a tail dragger and it was an issue, but you get used to it.

Warbirds?

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 13, 2022, 08:24:05 AM
I'm just throwing photos out there in no real order. See what sticks.

Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 13, 2022, 08:27:55 AM
A few more photos.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 14, 2022, 01:15:39 PM
Apparently he had a seat that went up and down so he could taxi.

Craig

Craig,

I'm not sure about that. I looked at a few photos I have, plus a great book with a few photos of the pilot on board.

The pilot's head just about hits the canopy, which BTW, slides forward.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Craig Beswick on January 14, 2022, 03:56:55 PM
http://aviadejavu.ru/Site/Crafts/Craft32757.htm
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Craig Beswick on January 14, 2022, 03:57:44 PM
The same website has a great view of the dash as well.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 15, 2022, 10:20:47 AM
The same website has a great view of the dash as well.

Craig,

What a guy!

I never knew about this website. however, I do have most of the photos in a file, including the instrument panel.

Thanks again.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 15, 2022, 03:45:19 PM
Tail wheel stuff and bottom sheeting completed. The entire model is sheeted.

Bent the tail wheel wire twice because I wasn't excited with the first.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: fred cesquim on January 18, 2022, 04:52:20 AM
looking goo Charles! great model subject, will be a pleasant sight!
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 18, 2022, 08:26:21 PM
looking goo Charles! great model subject, will be a pleasant sight!

Fred,

Thank you.

I'll get some recent photos up on Saturday.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 22, 2022, 02:19:11 PM
mucho progreso amigos!

"Brick by brick my citizens, brick by brick. William Shakespeare
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on January 28, 2022, 02:50:07 PM


I made a decision on which motor to use on the TEXACO 13.

I purchased the Badass 3520 and an extra long prop adapter plus a 13" prop.

I need these things to set the cowling. I hope these photos aren't small.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on February 06, 2022, 08:08:42 AM
A bit more progress.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on February 18, 2022, 02:58:42 PM
Spent some enjoyable time on the TEXACO 13. Tweaked the glass wheel pants, (Epoxy mix,)  plus cut and removed the cowling front opening.

Handled the Badass 3520-790 to get comfortable with it for what lies ahead, mounting. I have the "extended" shaft and have to fit the motor perfectly from motor mount to prop thrust line.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on February 20, 2022, 04:15:12 PM
Can't beat a Badass.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on March 07, 2022, 10:16:38 AM

This dummy radial currently has some paint on it. I have two more hours in it, I said the max would be 4 hours not counting what it took to get to this point.

I'm going to try to get this thing done by the end of the day. Possibly

Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on March 12, 2022, 03:22:18 PM
Well, I didn't get this thing completed in one day because I've been really busy. In fact, I didn't even try.

I have just about 6 hours of my time in this project, from box to what you see. AND, I could take it to another level of detail.

I just might. Here's the before and after.

Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on March 17, 2022, 09:23:59 AM
These pieces end the assembly stage of the TEXACO 13. Nothing left to make except the three piece canopy. That I can do well after the model is silked.

I'll be preparing the wood for the silk covering.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on March 18, 2022, 09:51:45 AM
I don't believe I've put this photo up.

Hollowed nose block but made in 8 pieces. 8 pieces glued together with CA then shaped to fit the fuselage. "Spot" Epoxied to the fuselage for removal so the shaped piece can be hollowed. Doesn't take a good deal of heat to separate pieces held together with Epoxy.

Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on March 18, 2022, 05:13:42 PM
Time for the body putty. Wood has two coats of clear dope, one thinned and one a bit thicker. Putty looks thick because it's really opaque.

95% of the putty will be be removed with sanding. Probably Deft Wood Lacquer from here. Probably only two coats will be needed. I'll force dry the first coat with heat so I can apply the second immediately. Clean the brush once.

Silk is coming.

 
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on March 19, 2022, 09:41:38 AM
Had to charge the battery.
Wing bottom.

Maybe I'll get a photo after this stuff is sanded. Quite a bit gets removed. Great stuff for this purpose. But, I'm sure there's other products.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on March 19, 2022, 10:20:07 AM
Another area.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on March 24, 2022, 03:48:03 PM
Almost forgot these things.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: pmackenzie on March 24, 2022, 08:36:02 PM
Its a small thing, but FWIW I would have run the grain this way.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on March 25, 2022, 08:10:06 AM
Its a small thing, but FWIW I would have run the grain this way.

You're 100% correct. I'll take notice for applications in the future. The piece will be silked, which will add strength, OR, do I add a 1/16" strip of hard balsa to the end?

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Trostle on March 25, 2022, 09:22:59 AM
Almost forgot these things.

Hi Charles,

A suggestion:

Instead of using balsa, use a piece of 1/64" ply.  You can feather the edge to almost a knife edge without much risk of something splitting.  Then build up the fillet with whatever you use for the entire fillet between the wing and fuselage.  The fillet material will give the gussets rigidity. 

Keith
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on March 25, 2022, 10:41:00 AM
Hi Charles,

A suggestion:

Instead of using balsa, use a piece of 1/64" ply.  You can feather the edge to almost a knife edge without much risk of something splitting.  Then build up the fillet with whatever you use for the entire fillet between the wing and fuselage.  The fillet material will give the gussets rigidity. 

Keith

Keith, Pat

What a pleasure reading your Posts.

Yes, the ply is a better way also. I should know better, but no one knows everything. Your suggestion is appreciated and yes, I obviously made a mistake which was brought to my attention in a kind way. Thankyou.

I opt to simply place this hard balsa strip on the end. Certainly a band-aid and incorrect by many standards, as it should be.

I didn't feel like removing the piece, but this has been a good lesson and I'll do better next time.

Thank you both.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Trostle on March 25, 2022, 12:54:18 PM
Hi Charles,

A suggestion:

Instead of using balsa, use a piece of 1/64" ply.  You can feather the edge to almost a knife edge without much risk of something splitting.  Then build up the fillet with whatever you use for the entire fillet between the wing and fuselage.  The fillet material will give the gussets rigidity. 

The gusset behind what will be the flap trailing edge started out as a piece of 1/64" ply as explained above.  The gray shown is the blocking coat before the white gets sprayed on.  The red trim will be masked first.

Keith
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on March 25, 2022, 05:51:29 PM


Keith,

Thanks for the photo.

Clean, neat and really nice.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on March 26, 2022, 03:34:36 PM
I iron my silk.

I'll have to go to the GBR-3 build and review the application of applying silk dry with CA. I haven't done this in years.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on April 02, 2022, 11:58:37 AM
Starting to cover the TEXACO 13.

I'm wondering how common it is for scale modelers to design and scratch build instead of building a kit?

BTW, While cleaning out file cabinets, I found the invoice for the fiberglass cowling. I paid 37.00 plus 8.00 shipping, and this was some years ago.

So, anyone thinking about building the TEXACO 13, let me know and I'll give you the information. Also remember, I used a modified Smoothie wing.

I'm guessing Smoothie wing kits may possibly be available? Rib set for sure?

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on April 05, 2022, 01:40:00 PM
TEXACO 13 build!! Gripping, to say the lease.

Adjustable rudder, simple install.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on April 06, 2022, 03:17:41 PM
The vertical stab and rudder was tricky. Took ten minutes and was a bit difficult holding the model in place and all. But I got through it.

Silk applied dry with CA, ready for dope in 10 minutes. Still not bad. Now the other side.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on April 06, 2022, 06:50:53 PM
The other side. Oops! A wrinkle I couldn't live with. Small ones are fine, livable they are.

Dope might have done the fix, but for the few minutes it'll take, I'll replace this open area.

Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on April 07, 2022, 09:19:50 AM
Bang! The fix. Using CA.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on April 10, 2022, 08:01:59 AM
A bit warmer today so I may be in the garage applying silk to the rest of the fuselage. I hope so.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on April 13, 2022, 05:19:14 PM
Second coat of Deft Wood Finish. Might need a third before primer. The Deft get's 220 before primer is applied.

Wings will get prepared for silking before any primer is applied. Deft is a usable product and can be speed dried immediately.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on April 17, 2022, 03:52:05 PM
It's not easy being me.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on April 20, 2022, 06:11:41 PM
Silked the 4 sides of the TEXACO 13's wing this morning. Just about 5 minutes per panel applying the silk dry using CA.

What's better than this? I'll be applying clear dope to the open bays after my brake :-)

Photos eventually.

I applied two coats of dope right out of the can. Speed dried the first. I have no patients.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Trostle on April 20, 2022, 06:25:52 PM

 I have no patients.

Charles

Are you a doctor?

Keith
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on April 21, 2022, 07:16:18 AM
Purchased a QT of clear from Sig. $46.14 with expedited shipping.

Well worth it.
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on April 23, 2022, 02:09:27 PM
Purchased a QT of clear from Sig. $46.14 with expedited shipping.

Well worth it.

Sig clear arrived this afternoon. Wow! Two days and I have it.

Sig has never let me down yet.

Here's the TEXACO 13 with just two coats of clear, right out of the can. I'll bet I could apply primer without a third coat. Nah!

If there were more interest I'd go a "finishing build." But I have "finishing builds" all over the place. ;D

Charles

Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Trostle on April 23, 2022, 05:21:12 PM
Charles,

How are you going to do the lead out guide?  What will it attach to on that wing that is already covered?

Keith
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: bob whitney on April 24, 2022, 08:46:54 AM
wont need it if u dont fly it
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Trostle on April 24, 2022, 09:43:54 AM
wont need it if u dont fly it

Dangling leadouts make uninteresting artifacts.  They might be used for hanging the thing on a wall.

Keith
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Avaiojet on April 24, 2022, 10:47:40 AM
Dangling leadouts make uninteresting artifacts.  They might be used for hanging the thing on a wall.

Keith

Keith,

Build one and you won't feel so bad.

Smoothie wings are everywhere.

I have all the parts outline drawings plus drawings of the tall feathers. I have the receipt for the cowling so that's no issue.

There gear and pants? Well, you can come up with s better choice than mine, mine are heavy.

It would be a good project for you and for the others who help you with your models.

It's a bunch of work for one guy, especially the fuselage sheeting. Not to mention, pieces have to be made and cut as you move along with the project.

Thank you for you're interest.

Charles
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: kevin king on August 28, 2022, 02:34:36 PM
Check this out
https://youtu.be/ITT2jSdDB8U
Title: Re: TEXACO 13 Semi-Scale Build!! Real slow build.
Post by: Trostle on August 28, 2022, 05:15:00 PM
Check this out
https://youtu.be/ITT2jSdDB8U

This belongs in the "At the Handle" or "Judging" headings rather than being lost in this endless build thread that deserves little attention compared to the value of this video.

Xu was 5th at the World Championships. 

The video shows numerous things other than it was a really nice flight.  Good corners, good shapes, good sizes, pretty good intersections, pretty good bottoms.  Shows the value of the placards which are the metric equivalent of 2 foot squares placed at 45 degree segments of the circle.  They show the right sizes for the loops and eights.  Shows how well the bottoms of the maneuvers are flown as well as how well level flight is done and on and on.

Could have used a better placement of the camera to align with the wind/where the pattern was flown.  Still, this is a really good video.

Worthwhile to watch each of these videos.

Videos like this could be used to train judges to show basically how a good pattern should be flown while at the same time being able to point out the errors, however minor they may be.  The placards are a bid help.

Keith