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Title: Team trials
Post by: RC Storick on September 05, 2009, 07:02:17 PM
Derrick Berry Q
Brett Buck Q
Josias Delgado Q
Orestes Hernandez Q
Doug Moon Q
Bill Rich Q
Howard Rush Q
Frank McMillan Q
Kenny Stevens Q
Bill Wierwage Q
Matt Newman 11
Randy Smith 12
Jim Arron 13
Phill Grandesron 14
Jose Modesto 15
Richard Oliver 16
Stan Powell 17
Robert Storick 18
Steve Moon 19
Allen Brickhaus 20
Eric Taylor 21
Bob McDonald 22

It was a busy day. Winds were light until the second round. Some really great flights put in today. I crashed on the outside part of the square eight.
 I ended up 18 even it was my last flight of the day. I sure am glad it was not my good airplane. Photos tomorrow                                                         


Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Howard Rush on September 05, 2009, 07:12:52 PM
Wow.  I didn't know you crashed.  Too bad.  That was a nice airplane.  Here is a picture of the board.  I didn't get an electronic copy.

Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Howard Rush on September 05, 2009, 07:56:01 PM
Some other misfortune appears on the scoreboard:  Bob McDonald, who flew really well at the Nats this year, had eye trouble--allergies, I think--which bothered him so bad that he withdrew from flying.  Phillip Granderson omitted his square eight on the third flight.  This is not the maneuver to leave out in F2B.  Jim Aron had an overrun which cost him landing points.  There were some ill winds in the fourth round that got both Moons, among others. 
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Steve Helmick on September 05, 2009, 09:07:37 PM
What happened to John Leidle? He was there, according to an earlier post. Maybe shopping for houses in Muncie?

Sorry to hear that Sparky crashed...but also wondering why he wasn't flying his best model? I'd be flying the best bullet I had, unless the weather was so terrible that survival was highly questionable.  ~^ Steve
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Randy Powell on September 06, 2009, 12:34:12 AM
Looks like Howard made it.
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Howard Rush on September 06, 2009, 04:26:30 AM
John crashed Tuesday.  He stayed to help run the contest. 

Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Dennis Adamisin on September 06, 2009, 07:00:05 AM
Howard & Sparky:
Thanks for the report & updates, takes some of the sting out of not being there...
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Howard Rush on September 06, 2009, 07:30:36 AM
First round is in progress. I'm on Bill Lee's network.

Seniors:
Derek Barry 1104.93
Orestes Hernandez 1144
Howard Rush 1053.28
Kenny Stevens 1055.53
Brett Buck 1130.74
Doug Moon 1094.43
Bill Werwage 1145.66
Frank McMillan 1104.21

Junior:
Ryan Young 987.88


Howard Rush
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: john e. holliday on September 06, 2009, 07:34:38 AM
Go Ryan,  bet Grandpa Bill is popping buttons already.  I see Billy is in the hunt as usual.  Thanks for the report.  DOC Holliday
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Howard Rush on September 06, 2009, 07:42:55 AM
Could be weather coming.  Hope athey don't call it off now.
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Howard Rush on September 06, 2009, 07:45:39 AM
First round update:

Seniors:
Derek Barry 1104.93
Orestes Hernandez 1144
Howard Rush 1053.28
Kenny Stevens 1055.53
Brett Buck 1130.74
Doug Moon 1094.43
Bill Werwage 1145.66
Frank McMillan 1104.21
Josias Delgado 1109.8
Bill Rich 1122.34

Junior:
Ryan Young 987.88


Howard Rush
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Howard Rush on September 06, 2009, 08:29:49 AM
Second round:

Derek Barry 1123.38
Orestes Hernandez 1150.46
Howard Rush 1117.13
Kenny Stevens 1129.90
Brett Buck 1131.79
Doug Moon 1121.98
Bill Werwage 1163.88
Frank McMillan 1094.06
Josias Delgado 1123.65
Bill Rich 1139.33

Ryan Young 1085.41

Conditiona overcast, light consistent wind.

Howard Rush
Bellevue, WA
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Randy Powell on September 06, 2009, 03:05:10 PM
Howard,

Be happy you're there. We have rain and some smoking winds.

Looks like quite a shoot-out.
Title: Re: Team trials - Final results
Post by: BillLee on September 06, 2009, 03:46:30 PM
Here are the final standings:

Bill Werwage - 2326.74
Orestes Hernandez - 2320.47
Derek Barry - 2279.58
Brett Buck - 2279.54
Bill Rich - 2278.68
Kenny Stevens - 2269.63
Josias Delgao - 2268.19
Doug Moon - 2263.12
Howard Rush - 2240.48
Frank McMillan - 2220.60

Ryan Young - 2187.01

Regards,

Bill Lee
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Jim Pollock on September 06, 2009, 05:20:16 PM
It looks to me like Billy is on track to be the first 4 time World Champion!

Jim Pollock   %^@
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Les McDonald on September 06, 2009, 05:29:25 PM
This is the coolest result I could have ever hoped for.
Congratulations to everyone. Team selection is brutal and Brett I can feel your pain.
Derek, you and your Dad are now committed to an experience that can be a high point in your lives but first you must go through all the "gutwrenching" stuff. You're gonna be fine!
Orestes,"buen suerte" and Billy, "I love you man".
                                                                             
                                                                      Les McDonald
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: RC Storick on September 06, 2009, 05:58:32 PM
Here are a few friends. Jim Vornholt took the pic.

(http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13929.0;attach=47883;image)

(http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13929.0;attach=47885;image)

Sorry I forgot to add names. Thanks Chris

Jimmy is bottom Left
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Chris McMillin on September 06, 2009, 06:04:45 PM
Just in case anybody doesn't know Bob's "in crowd";
Lt to right, Ron O'Toole from the Tucker days of the 50's/60's, Billy Werwage, Bob Storick our host, Randy Smith the guy that brings us PA engines. Photo by Jim Vornholt, of the 50's/60's Indianapolis crowd.
Chris...
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Will Hinton on September 06, 2009, 06:19:35 PM
Man-o-man what a shoot out!  Congrats to every one who flew today!!! You all did a wonderful job.  Can it get any closer than these scores?  I'd say the good ole USA will be well represented!
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on September 06, 2009, 06:23:25 PM
Great team! Congrats to all.. Billy is making us all stay young.
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Matt Colan on September 06, 2009, 07:42:29 PM
Hey that's a good team.  Good luck everybody at the Worlds next year  H^^
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Randy Cuberly on September 06, 2009, 10:06:34 PM
Terriffic Team....
Congratulations to everyone talented, courageous, and committed enough to fly Stunt at this level.
Special congratulations to the Team members and especially to "The Man" Mr Werwage.
Billy, I never had a doubt for a minute that you could do it and wish you all the best for another World Championship.

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: john e. holliday on September 07, 2009, 08:05:02 AM
GO TEAM USA.    I hope Billy and Dave can teach the new guys what to look and watch out for.  Of course at this level of competition I don't beleive there is anything that will rattle them.  Looks like a hard faught battle.  Also congrats to young Ryan as he is on a big learning curve.  Go team,  DOC Holliday
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Bob Hunt on September 07, 2009, 08:25:07 AM
I just wanted to add my congratulations to all of our FAI team members and also to David Fitzgerald once again for his WC winning performance last year. Because of that we will once again be sending 5 United States fliers to the Championships.

On a personal note, I cannot tell you how pleased I am that my old buddy, Bill Werwage once again made the team. If I'm not mistaken, this will be his 16th appearance at a World Championships!

To Jim Pollack: It would be difficult for Billy to be crowned the first 4-time World Champion since a certain Chinese flier already has 5 of them... :-\

Bob Hunt

 
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Matt Colan on September 07, 2009, 08:28:18 AM
I just wanted to add my congratulations to all of our FAI team members and also to David Fitzgerald once again for his WC winning performance last year. Because of that we will once again be sending 5 United States fliers to the Championships.

On a personal note, I cannot tell you how pleased I am that my old buddy, Bill Werwage once again made the team. If I'm not mistaken, this will be his 16th appearance at a World Championships!

To Jim Pollack: It would be difficult for Billy to be crowned the first 4-time World Champion since a certain Chinese flier already has 5 of them... :-\

Bob Hunt

 

Wow, 16 appearances at the World Championships, that's quite a record.  Bob, I thought we are still taking 4, Paul Ferrel didn't win the Junior championship  ???
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: john e. holliday on September 07, 2009, 08:45:21 AM
Matt,  The team is the 3 Senior members, 1 Junior member and David is past World Champion.  Remember also his score does not count towards the team trophy.  I hope I got this right,  DOC Holliday
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Matt Colan on September 07, 2009, 08:52:09 AM
Matt,  The team is the 3 Senior members, 1 Junior member and David is past World Champion.  Remember also his score does not count towards the team trophy.  I hope I got this right,  DOC Holliday

Oh yeah, I was thinking of the 2006 team where there was 6 members, little brain fart  n~
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: RC Storick on September 07, 2009, 09:22:18 AM
1 William Werwage 1107.50 1081.00 1132.79 1128.40 2261.19 1145.66 1163.88 1162.86 2326.74
2 Orestes Hernandez 1136.23 1102.93 1165.56 1086.29 2268.48 1144.00 1150.46 1170.01 2320.47
3 Derek Barry 1107.56 1079.43 1125.56 1097.96 2223.52 1104.93 1123.38 1156.20 2279.58
4 Brett Buck 1078.53 1127.96 1092.10 1105.00 2220.06 1130.74 1131.79 1147.75 2279.54
5 William Rich 1139.43 1066.26 1144.50 1070.89 2215.39 1122.34 1139.33 1139.35 2278.68
6 Kenny Stevens 1062.23 1069.00 1079.39 1140.96 2220.35 1055.53 1129.90 1139.73 2269.63
7 Josias Delgado 1081.03 1061.23 1110.33 1081.53 2191.85 1109.80 1123.65 1144.54 2268.19
8 Doug Moon 1018.56 1110.53 1070.69 1132.50 2203.19 1094.43 1121.98 1141.14 2263.12
9 Howard Rush 1100.79 1040.19 1120.46 1074.56 2195.02 1053.28 1117.13 1123.35 2240.48
10 Frank McMillan 1086.86 1036.50 1095.70 1072.76 2168.46 1104.21 1094.06 1116.39 2220.60
11 Matthew Neumann 1054.63 1062.06 1057.36 1106.83 2164.18
12 Randy Smith 1019.39 1087.96 1049.29 1096.39 2145.68
13 Jim Aron 970.80 943.50 1037.50 1036.76 2074.26
14 Phillip Granderson 1016.33 980.03 893.23 1055.06 2071.39
15 Jose Modesto 964.29 1048.76 1007.10 1062.46 2069.56
16 Richard Oliver 1029.93 1010.83 1041.99 990.06 2052.82
17 Stan Powell 905.10 969.66 1028.70 1018.23 2046.93
18 Robert Storick 961.06 961.86 1039.00 542.26 2000.86
19 Steve Moon 998.00 949.06 1043.03 941.00 1992.09
20 Allen Brickhaus 931.30 942.83 993.43 967.20 1960.63
21 Eric Taylor 923.63 1012.10 938.53 863.93 1950.63
22 Robert McDonald 0 0 0 0 0   DNF
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Patrick Rowan on September 07, 2009, 12:38:42 PM
Congrats to Derek Barry & the rest of the USA Team heading to Hungry in 2010.

How to: Take apart models is allready a big topic for some of the Team members.
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Allen Goff on September 07, 2009, 02:36:30 PM
After judging 75 flights over the two days, I am very proud of the team we are sending. They are the BEST. And it was a great treat to have Bob Gieseke, and Ronnie Farmer with me on circle two all day Saturday. (42 flights). Circle three had Jim Barnholt, Gary McClellan, and Mark Overmier. Sunday all six judges watch 33 flights, I think it was as fair a team trials as can be. If you would have ask me who the top three were  Sunday morning, I would not be able to answer, it was a big question all weekend. And, that is the part about judging I don't like, not being able to see the scoreboard. This was the 4Th team trials I have judged, I think it is time for someone to take my place, I think I'd like to play with these guys in 2011. JUST A THOUGHT, the second three would make one heck a FAI team, right?
 
I am taking off for Onaway, Alberta, Canada for some much needed R&R. Nats, FCM contest, FAI team trials, and getting my stuff ready for the US FAI Scale team, I am tired...........GO TEAM U S A. #^ #^

Blessings
Allen
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on September 07, 2009, 02:51:14 PM
Allen,

Having judged 2 FAI team selections years back, my hat is off to all the judges. While the flyers only have to concentrate totally on their own flights, the judges have to have total concentration for EVERY flight. That is almost super human.

Thanks to all the judges, helpers and organizers. We have a strong team due to their efforts.
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Will Hubin on September 07, 2009, 05:39:47 PM
Saturday photos: Jim Aron, Allen Brickhaus, Brett Buck, Josias Delgado
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Jim Pollock on September 07, 2009, 05:44:37 PM
Bob,

I had a few years off while China was dominating the W/C's, I didn't know that one actually dominated for 10 years!
winning 4 times would still be a great accomplishment!

New guys?  Actually Orestes isn't new and neither is Derek since he's the '98 Junior World Champion!

Jim Pollock   H^^
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Matt Colan on September 07, 2009, 07:13:46 PM
Great pics Will. Anymore?

Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: BillLee on September 07, 2009, 07:27:03 PM
Bob,

I had a few years off while China was dominating the W/C's, I didn't know that one actually dominated for 10 years!
winning 4 times would still be a great accomplishment!

New guys?  Actually Orestes isn't new and neither is Derek since he's the '98 Junior World Champion!

Jim Pollock   H^^

Actually, it was 1996 in Sweden.

In any case, it's great to see a past Jr WCh now on the Sr team!

Regards,

Bill Lee
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: steve pagano on September 07, 2009, 07:37:09 PM



    Is there a website or a list that tells were the future WC's will be held?
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Randy Powell on September 07, 2009, 07:39:11 PM
Uncle Jimby looks like he's holding his lunch down by main force (love the hand over the stomach).   ;D

Congrats to the team. Looks to be a strong one.
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Will Hubin on September 08, 2009, 08:11:00 AM
I've been trying unsuccessfully to post more Saturday photos, including ones of the top two finishers ... and our host, Robert Storick. Sorry.
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: RC Storick on September 08, 2009, 08:19:08 AM
Resize them 800X600 and compress them to 100 kb
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Uncle Jimby on September 08, 2009, 08:57:27 AM
Uncle Jimby looks like he's holding his lunch down by main force (love the hand over the stomach).   ;D

Congrats to the team. Looks to be a strong one.

Who has time for lunch?!   Seriously though, it was a great experience.  Hope some of that great flying rubs off on me.

Jim
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: RandySmith on September 08, 2009, 09:52:22 AM
"It was a busy day. Winds were light until the second round. Some really great flights put in today. I crashed on the outside part of the square eight.
 I ended up 18 even it was my last flight of the day. I sure am glad it was not my good airplane. Photos tomorrow   "

You flew well, and unfortunately dinged a really good flying airplane,your last flight was on track to be your best one as you were improving on every flight, The quality of flying was very very good at the  TTs and you were moving up the ranks pretty well.
The plane looked very good in presentation in the air,had a nice hard flat corner and looked good in the rounds, it looked like it tracked very well too, it is a great thing that it is easy to fix the scratches that you put on it. So you really didn't loose anything but a little time.

Randy                                                   
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Matt Colan on September 08, 2009, 02:00:48 PM
"It was a busy day. Winds were light until the second round. Some really great flights put in today. I crashed on the outside part of the square eight.
 I ended up 18 even it was my last flight of the day. I sure am glad it was not my good airplane. Photos tomorrow   "

You flew well, and unfortunately dinged a really good flying airplane,your last flight was on track to be your best one as you were improving on every flight, The quality of flying was very very good at the  TTs and you were moving up the ranks pretty well.
The plane looked very good in presentation in the air,had a nice hard flat corner and looked good in the rounds, it looked like it tracked very well too, it is a great thing that it is easy to fix the scratches that you put on it. So you really didn't loose anything but a little time.

Randy                                                   

Randy or Robert, was the plane fixable when it went in?

Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: RC Storick on September 08, 2009, 02:05:41 PM
I made the pull out on the square 8 a little low. Scrapped the rudder and prop. I landed on the wheels. So the rudder took some paint off and maybe a 1/16 of a inch. Small scrape the size of a quarter on the out board wing tip and thats it. If they would of let me fly again I could have after a prop change.
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Matt Colan on September 08, 2009, 02:07:38 PM
I made the pull out on the square 8 a little low. Scrapped the rudder and prop. I landed on the wheels. So the rudder took some paint off and maybe a 1/16 of a inch. Small scrape the size of a quarter on the out board wing tip and thats it. If they would of let me fly again I could have after a prop change.

Oh ok, the way it originally sounded was that the plane actually crashed, with a boom.  THat's a definite fix there right, a little touch paint and ready to go again.



Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Will Hubin on September 08, 2009, 09:03:34 PM
OK, here's some more pix at lower resolution: Phil Granderson, Steve Moon, Matt Neumann, and Richard Oliver
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Will Hubin on September 08, 2009, 09:09:17 PM
Orestes Hernandez (#1), Stan Powell, Bill Rich, Howard Rush
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Will Hubin on September 08, 2009, 09:14:10 PM
Last, but not least: Randy Smith, Kenny Stevens, Robert Storick, and Bill Werwage (#1)
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Matt Colan on September 09, 2009, 02:54:02 PM
1 William Werwage    1107.50   1081.00  1132.79  1128.40  2261.19       1145.66   1163.88     1162.86     2326.74
2 Orestes Hernandez 1136.23   1102.93  1165.56  1086.29  2268.48       1144.00   1150.46     1170.01     2320.47
3 Derek Barry           1107.56   1079.43  1125.56  1097.96  2223.52       1104.93   1123.38     1156.20     2279.58
4 Brett Buck             1078.53  1127.96  1092.10  1105.00  2220.06       1130.74   1131.79     1147.75     2279.54
5 William Rich            1139.43  1066.26  1144.50  1070.89  2215.39       1122.34   1139.33     1139.35     2278.68
6 Kenny Stevens       1062.23  1069.00  1079.39  1140.96  2220.35       1055.53    1129.90     1139.73    2269.63
7 Josias Delgado        1081.03  1061.23  1110.33  1081.53  2191.85       1109.80    1123.65    1144.54     2268.19
8 Doug Moon            1018.56  1110.53  1070.69  1132.50  2203.19       1094.43    1121.98     1141.14     2263.12
9 Howard Rush          1100.79  1040.19  1120.46 1074.56  2195.02        1053.28    1117.13     1123.35     2240.48
10 Frank McMillan      1086.86  1036.50  1095.70 1072.76  2168.46        1104.21    1094.06     1116.39     2220.60
11 Matthew Neumann 1054.63  1062.06  1057.36 1106.83  2164.18
12 Randy Smith         1019.39  1087.96  1049.29 1096.39  2145.68
13 Jim Aron               970.80   943.50   1037.50  1036.76  2074.26
14 Phillip Granderson   1016.33 980.03    893.23   1055.06  2071.39
15 Jose Modesto        964.29   1048.76  1007.10 1062.46  2069.56
16 Richard Oliver        1029.93  1010.83  1041.99 990.06   2052.82
17 Stan Powell           905.10   969.66   1028.70 1018.23  2046.93
18 Robert Storick        961.06   961.86   1039.00 542.26   2000.86
19 Steve Moon           998.00   949.06   1043.03 941.00   1992.09
20 Allen Brickhaus       931.30   942.83    993.43  967.20   1960.63
21 Eric Taylor             923.63  1012.10   938.53  863.93   1950.63
22 Robert McDonald     0          0           0          0          0                 DNF


Decided to clean up the scores a little bit
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on September 09, 2009, 03:52:09 PM
Will,

Thanks for the great pictures.
Title: Re: Team trials
Post by: Michael Floerchinger on September 10, 2009, 06:28:52 AM
Man, there is nothing like a Semi Scale plane!

Great pics!

Mike