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Title: Systrema 2019
Post by: Brett Buck on June 02, 2019, 04:44:46 PM
Jim "Uncle Jimby" Aron has done it again. Today were the first flights of his new Systrema - 20% more wing area and ~ the same weight as the last one. And another potential 20 point finish. Behold:

(https://stunthanger.com/smf/open-forum/systrema-2019/?action=dlattach;attach=299575;image)
(https://stunthanger.com/smf/open-forum/systrema-2019/?action=dlattach;attach=299577;image)
(https://stunthanger.com/smf/open-forum/systrema-2019/?action=dlattach;attach=299579;image)

(https://stunthanger.com/smf/open-forum/systrema-2019/?action=dlattach;attach=299581;image)

     Workmanship is, as expected, of the highest order. Unless it gets run over by a tank, it will be in the front row for certain. It has some innovative tricks to hide the arming plug, which may require some modification to be practical, but very cool.

     The base color is a sort of low-saturation Orange, like Papaya Orange (used on McLaren race cars) but it pops much better than it shows here, in these foggy-morning pictures.

      But the best thing about is that it flies much better than the smaller version, pretty much right from the first flight. A minor tweak, some handle adjustment, and a touch of nose weight and he was flying it at least as well as he flew the other one on the third flight.

    All in all, a a very successful first flying session!

    Brett
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Brett Buck on June 02, 2019, 05:00:51 PM
(https://stunthanger.com/smf/open-forum/systrema-2019/?action=dlattach;attach=299583;image)
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Mike Haverly on June 02, 2019, 05:20:25 PM
Yikes!!!!  Jimby, Jimby, Jimby, you done went over the top.  Really cool!
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: scott v. on June 02, 2019, 05:26:08 PM
Super Cool! Is all I can say
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: frank williams on June 02, 2019, 05:47:52 PM
WOW  Jim
A beautiful airplane ...very creative design and artistic paint and color job ..... the other one was great but this looks magnificent
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Dennis Nunes on June 02, 2019, 05:49:59 PM
Congratulations Jimby and job well done. I can’t wait to see.


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Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Brett Buck on June 02, 2019, 06:03:42 PM
WOW  Jim
A beautiful airplane ...very creative design and artistic paint and color job ..... the other one was great but this looks magnificent

   As good as it looks here, it's actually much better, because some idiot with close to 50 years of photographic experience including professional paid work, couldn't manage to check his exposure compensation settings from the last session, and underexposed them all by 3 stops! It was "fixed" in Nikon View in the raw file, but, turned the ultra-high-res 24 MP camera into a Pocket Instamatic.  I hate that guy. 

     The light was poor, too, since we were more concerned about getting it flying than creating artistic masterpieces, with predictable results...

    Brett
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Howard Rush on June 02, 2019, 06:04:38 PM
Canopy’s on backwards. You reckon it’s too late to turn it around?
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Balsa Butcher on June 02, 2019, 06:05:10 PM
Very nice  Jimby CLP**
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Brett Buck on June 02, 2019, 06:52:39 PM
Canopy’s on backwards. You reckon it’s too late to turn it around?

    I think, as a helpful guy, you should suggest that. If you come towards him with a Zona saw in your hand, he will understand your level of concern.
   
   Brett
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: john e. holliday on June 02, 2019, 07:41:41 PM
Looks wicket cool. H^^
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Brent Williams on June 02, 2019, 08:08:41 PM
Wow! What a beautiful plane, Jim.   
So impressive!
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: BYU on June 02, 2019, 08:14:35 PM
(https://stunthanger.com/smf/open-forum/systrema-2019/?action=dlattach;attach=299579;image)

Stunning!
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Jim Hoffman on June 02, 2019, 09:16:08 PM
I was told recently that Latin is a dead language.  The fellow said it killed the Romans and in his youthful schooling it was killing him

hic certe tempus = This time for sure


Great job!
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Steve Helmick on June 02, 2019, 09:30:26 PM
Looks great! If Howard does turn the canopy around, I don't think it would be very noticeable.

On the other hand, Howard's misshapen & lumpy lumpy molded balsa canopy should be cause for concern to all.   S?P Steve   
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: James Mills on June 02, 2019, 09:37:41 PM
That is every cool.

James
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Mike Scholtes on June 02, 2019, 10:11:20 PM
And, I am one of the fortunate few who will see this new beauty in person! Maybe even at our freshly paved Alameda circle ...

Is this a 0-0-0 alignment? It appears so in the pictures.
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Howard Rush on June 03, 2019, 12:16:17 AM
Look at that fuselage.  It's all compound curves and indentations.  How do you build that?  How do you sand that?  How do you mask that?  Then there's the opaque paint next to the matching transparent covering on the wing. Then there's the paint tapering to a point.  If I could do stuff like that I'd never get my bottoms down. 
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Matt Colan on June 03, 2019, 07:57:03 AM
WOW!!! Absolutely beautiful work Jim!!!
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Airacobra on June 03, 2019, 08:54:38 AM
Very nice, That is no Run of the Mill bird. Fantastic!
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Howard Rush on June 03, 2019, 10:30:03 AM
WOW  Jim
A beautiful airplane ...very creative design and artistic paint and color job ..... the other one was great but this looks magnificent

Let's hope it's not antibiotic resistant.
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Dave_Trible on June 03, 2019, 11:42:17 AM
Great work Jim! 

Dave
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Uncle Jimby on June 03, 2019, 12:09:25 PM
Thanks everyone.  I think you're all being a tad generous (especially my pal, Brett), but I do really appreciate the positive feedback.  With all the effort we put into these things.....well, you know.
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: frank mccune on June 03, 2019, 01:58:12 PM
          Well done! A true work of art!
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: dennis lipsett on June 03, 2019, 02:19:34 PM
With the magnificent work done to that model and the nose treatment especially I could never envision this as a glow powered model. Beautifully done.
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Derek Barry on June 03, 2019, 02:50:24 PM
Canopy’s on backwards. You reckon it’s too late to turn it around?

At least he didn't buy his spinner from Bozo.

Well done Jim!

Derek
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Randy Powell on June 03, 2019, 03:29:37 PM
Certainly stunning work. You've outdone yourself.
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Clint Ormosen on June 03, 2019, 04:51:56 PM
Yet another out of this world effort by Jim. Everything he builds is a masterpiece.

Why do I even bother?
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Brett Buck on June 03, 2019, 05:44:39 PM
At least he didn't buy his spinner from Bozo.

  Boy, you make one clown-nose spinner and you can never live it down.

   Brett
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Derek Barry on June 04, 2019, 06:39:24 AM
  Boy, you make one clown-nose spinner and you can never live it down.

   Brett

Not when you consistently criticize other people's, much more attractive, canopies...

Derek
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: BYU on June 04, 2019, 08:15:08 AM
   As good as it looks here, it's actually much better, because some idiot with close to 50 years of photographic experience including professional paid work, couldn't manage to check his exposure compensation settings from the last session, and underexposed them all by 3 stops! It was "fixed" in Nikon View in the raw file, but, turned the ultra-high-res 24 MP camera into a Pocket Instamatic.  I hate that guy. 

     The light was poor, too, since we were more concerned about getting it flying than creating artistic masterpieces, with predictable results...

    Brett

Like a lot of photography (no matter how talented the artist) pictures don’t do this masterpiece justice.

I saw the plane at masking stage and was totally blown away. It is largely original with it’s own wing and fuselage design, wing sheeting that matches to the color layout, Titanium landing gear, a new “clip in, no bolt” battery cover and more that I likely don’t even know about.

Hopefully Jimby will do a show and tell for a PAMPA article at some stage.
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Howard Rush on June 04, 2019, 09:35:27 AM
Not when you consistently criticize other people's, much more attractive, canopies...

Derek

Because they’re wrong. Somebody has to speak up.
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: PJ Rowland on June 06, 2019, 06:29:48 PM
Excellent work Jimby!

I have to agree... a backwards canopy looks way better than a spinner that took the full force of a nosedive into thw pavement..

And Howard your stuff is obnoxiously impressive, paint, fit and finish!

Could we see photos of this new arming system?
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Paul Walker on June 06, 2019, 08:06:20 PM
Very nice work Jimby. Glad the settings worked out for you. Can't wait to see it fly on person!

And the canopy in not very backwards, not like our friend who says "but it's working just fine", now that is on backwards.
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Brett Buck on June 06, 2019, 11:02:15 PM
Very nice work Jimby. Glad the settings worked out for you. Can't wait to see it fly on person!

     The best part is that this one looked "right" from the instant it broke ground, and really never put a foot wrong afterwards.

   Brett
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Steve Helmick on June 06, 2019, 11:20:29 PM
With the magnificent work done to that model and the nose treatment especially I could never envision this as a glow powered model. Beautifully done.

WHAT? NOT GLOW POWERED? "Dammit Jim!!!"*  y1 Steve

* Dr. McCoy to Capt. James T. Kirk in most every episode of the original Star Trek.
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Brett Buck on June 06, 2019, 11:53:00 PM



I wrote:

Quote
  Boy, you make one clown-nose spinner and you can never live it down.


Not when you consistently criticize other people's, much more attractive, canopies...

I think you misunderstood, I wasn't suggesting he didn't deserve it.

  I was giving directions.

    Brett
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Ken Culbertson on June 07, 2019, 06:59:00 AM
A refreshing change and one of the most beautiful ships I have seen.  This is what the design freedom electric gives us!  I would love to know how the power train is arranged.

Ken
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: BYU on June 07, 2019, 08:05:03 AM
WHAT? NOT GLOW POWERED? "Dammit Jim!!!"*  y1 Steve

* Dr. McCoy to Capt. James T. Kirk in most every episode of the original Star Trek.

“It’s not stunt as we know it Jim”
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Brett Buck on June 07, 2019, 08:12:07 AM
Yet another out of this world effort by Jim. Everything he builds is a masterpiece.

Why do I even bother?

  Excellence is a journey, not a destination.

     Brett
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Uncle Jimby on June 08, 2019, 12:46:18 PM
Excellent work Jimby!

!

Could we see photos of this new arming system?

I'd be happy to show the arming system when I finally get it to work.  Currently on my 4th iteration.  I'll give it a go on Sunday and see how it works.  I think this one is the one.
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Uncle Jimby on June 08, 2019, 01:08:59 PM
I would love to know how the power train is arranged.

Ken

Ken:  The arrangement is not revolutionary, albeit tight.  I'm installing the Plett 20-16 right now in place of the 15-22 to move the CG forward a little.  I'd like to get it all worked out before I start airing out my dirty laundry, so to speak.
Title: Re: Systrema 2019
Post by: Brian Massey on June 14, 2019, 11:00:55 AM
Wow; looks great. Bet you're going to give Chris and his new plane a little competition for cake honors this year.

Brian